We have lost the ability as Christians to think categorically. Christian discourse around the family and politics endlessly conflate personal versus public, necessary versus possible, and descriptive versus prescriptive categories. This renders us unable to think historically, consider what the future might hold, and properly discern what course of action we should take. Tune in now as we discuss thinking shrewdly and what America’s political future might hold.
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Based and Caesar pilled
I watched the first episode.
It's crazy how people clip stuff up, not understanding the context and then use that against you. But as we've said before they're just right wing boost and they don't know it.
Joel, brother, while I appreciate much of your recognition of the problems, and generally your articulation of CN, THIS is a terrible (or rather tyrannical) take on the application of our advocacy within a Constitutional Republic. Under no circumstances is Monarchy required to pass through before we get a Constitutional Republic. You've gone off the deep end, assuming that the way things transpired in history are a proper direction to leadership. All authorities are accountable to God AND the people they lead. Monarchy is a pagan order system, that Isreal desired. I plan on making a response to this where I walk through your arguments and point out where you've taken a wrong turn.
I strange or the Holy Spirit working. I just prayed that this morning g for Crustion leaders to fix in postions of our government so we can be a Christiin nation for God😊
I'm at the 20 minute mark and I wanted to say something else. As christians we so often say one person can make a ton of change. One person can change the world. We say that frequently and we really believe it. Unless that one person has a position of power then somehow we magically think no, it cannot and should not work that way. Courage is infectious. How often have you seen someone fighting and you realize how much of a coward you've been and they're courage stirs you to be courageous and fight? Why couldn't a ruler also do that?
May I ask what book about Abraham Lincoln you are reading?
It sounds like another thing you'd like to change about the Constitution is to eliminate the last clause of Article VI, Clause 3.
Yes, there are dips along the way and unfortunately we often elect them to high office.😇
Is your argument that the United States was not degenerate at the founding or shortly after, hence, the Constitution was effective for them? Is there a part of the Constitution which abrogates itself if the people become too degenerate? What part of the Constitution is that?
American and the entire global agenda has become a Tower of Babel once again. It is trying to recreate the world in this way. The fall out of God’s undoing of it this time will be catastrophic. I fear at this rate our children will see wars and horrors we haven’t dared imagine possible as God collapses the tower onto itself.
"My excesses are better than your excesses." Said every tyrant.
I don't think "Rome allowed for dictators so we should too" is your strongest argument.
A dictator can be righteous, and an elected legislature and executive can be wicked. If it brought the nation back in moral alignment with scripture, than I'm all for it.
Prescriptive or descriptive? "I'd rather have a Christian monarchy than our current state of affairs." Sounds a wee bit prescriptive.
I don't know what to say first about this episode. Well done Gents! You are talking and acting like a mature church. What is going on? I didn't think that was possible in this day and age. To start out with what I thought was my own secret weapon, that is to think categorically, in levels, dispositions, whatever, you want to call it, again well done. I don't comment on to many videos, but this one very much encouraged me from beginning to end. Looking forward to the next one, keep up the "good work".
Wow, if the Civil War was God's judgement, when was this mythical time of a virtuous people you long for, during which we were worthy of the Constitution?
"Civil War => Bad things happened" seems like a tiny bit of a simplification, given slavery and the slaughter of the native peoples.
Now you have me thinking about the many wars of the 20th and 19th centuries that ended up killing so many millions of Christian brothers by pitting them against one another. very tragic
Thanks guys.
You are exactly right….what's the big deal???
You will get eaten up by the left, get ready Pastor Joel. If you don't back down, I'm afraid for you but our Lord will protect you. Please don't back down, you are the man of the hour
You are 100 percent correct. 100 percent. One must have a moral people. These Christians are nuts. You guys are on track, do not derail
At min 14, was excellent!
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Galatians 3:28. Revelation 7:9.
Maybe even a 1000 year dip going back to schism.
It's pretty hard to not go down the road that the States are New Rome.
I stopped following ruben after the baby thing.
Such a great conversation!
Pastor and friends: you may enjoy Our Secret Constitution: How Lincoln Redefined America by George P. Fletcher.
I would like to see Pastor Webbon speak about an American's elective role as a UNITED STATES (corporate) citizen vs. their God-given appointment as a native (national) of one of The United States.
God grants the rights of every living man. The Constitution only enumerates them!
God's will is that righteous men should govern themselves. However, men will never do that unless they stop consenting to federal sovereignty.
Ps. Democracy is mob rule. If 51% can trample the 49% Christ's kingdom will not be seen on earth.
In many ways Putin is doing this in the East against the west and their ideologies with lgbt and crt.
It has always been a responsibility of the People, sovereign over their creature – the government, to enforce the Constitution. Please check out Tactical Civics.
A "super saiyan elect" 😂😂😂😂. Love it!
Our elected officials care about Ukraine and Israel more than us. True. But they care as little for Ukrainians and Israelites as they do for us. There are no people they care for. They care for institutions and power (ie. national govt power) because they can use that. They in fact hate most people and think we are vermin. They are our enemy. They are most everyone’s enemy whether people know it or not.
Excellent, substantive discussion! And I like that these guys are real men, rather than soft, overly winsome feminized Christians. We need a lot more discussions like this.