PFF’s Sam Monson and Steve Palazzolo react to the 2023 NFL Trade Deadline. The guys also discuss the Raiders recent firings of McDaniels & Ziegler.
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2:32 – Josh McDaniels no longer Raiders HC
34:30 – Trade Deadline Reactions
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DPJ is replacing Marvin Jonessssss, have mercy
Is it just me , or does Mark Davis look like a really old Oppie Taylor ??
daboll is the only belichick disciple to win a playoff game and that was last year. absolutely awful coaching tree 😂
The bald dude is just a horrible NFL analyst. Sweat is the better player then Young. Especially when you add in Young's injury history!
WALT WE DID IT!
DPJ was because Marvin Jones left, nothing to do with jamo lol
I have previously seen Josh McDaniel's offense described as very hard to understand and hard to execute, which I think is a bit ingenuous and a bit too much credit to McDaniels.
The Josh McDaniels offense has a very high ceiling and a rock bottom floor. With Tom Brady at the helm, he can mask some of the deficiencies of the scheme and exploit the aspects of it which allow for that incredibly high ceiling, but a quarterback like Jimmy Garoppolo who was very good at running the scheme and the scheme alone cannot mask the critical flaws and instead only operates with what's on the field, and sometimes with the McDaniels offense, what's on the field is not successful in the slightest.
Like if McDaniels calls up a play for Tom and there is nothing there, he still has the mental capacity and the ability to change the play at the line to create something on the fly, where is Jimmy G will just drop back and dice it up exactly as McDaniels and tens, without any regard for whether or not it actually will work.
In short, Josh McDaniels needs a fantastic quarterback for his offense to function well, but if he does have a fantastic quarterback, then his offense will function to such a high level that it gets him a second head coaching job when he's well known as one of the worst head coaches in league history.
Funny how they bring up if chicago gets a deal done but never talk about that with the 49ers. They don't have the money he is a1 year rental
They’re forgetting that other teams were in that bid for Sweat, no way he would’ve made it to FA for the Bears to pick up
I can see the argument for Young and Sweat being worth similar compensation in a trade, but Young hasn't actually been better than Sweat in the NFL and has been less reliable. Their grades against the run and as pass rushers have been very similar, Young was just a better prospect 4 years ago
The intelligent blond trophy girlfriend told pussy-whipped Marc Davis to move on. And, clearly, McD is not a nice personality on the field and on the podium: It’s dour and he browbeats his players destructively which is the very apposite of the likable Bisaccia and the enthusiastic and demonstrative Gruden; I want either or both to return, especially the latter whose demeanor fits right into Las Vegas city culture.
Smh pff don’t even do their homework they just ready to talk some shit. Young failed 4 physicals and other teams offered a 2nd for sweat it’s just the bears have the best 2nd so they took it.
You couldn’t have anticipated the email mess? Really? You think that?
In terms of Sweat and Young, Washington traded Sweat because the deal was too good to pass on and they traded Young because they had no intention of bringing him back.
They did not intend to bring Young because
1. Money: This is the biggest factor. He was a tier 1 deal and Washington was not prepared to give him one this offseason because of reasons 2 and 3.
2. Injury: As mentioned, Chase Young's knee injury was bad. It was not a simple ACL. It was an ACL plus Patellar tendon injury. His knee seems to be doing well at the moment, but Washington did not want to pay full price for a player that had a serious knee injury.
3. Relationship with coaching staff: Chase Young is not a bad person. He is good with fans always signing lots of autographs and he is a vocal teammate on the sidelines cheering for his teammates. But his relationship with the coaching staff in Washington was bad. He skipped voluntary OTA's in 2021 and 2023 and in 2022 he was injured. The coaching staff also felt he was the biggest free lancer on teh D-Line. One tough thing about having 4 alpha on a D-Line is all four feel entitled to free lance some. They all believe they can get that quick pass rush win. And while all four at times free lance, it was known before the trade and reemphasized after the trade that the coaching staff felt Young was the biggest transgressor.
Given those things, Washington had no intention to bring him back. Sure if he would sign a 4 year 50 million deal, that would resign even given points 2 and 3, but if its going to take like 90 million over 4 years to resign him (I am completely making up those numbers), it was not something they were willing to do given points 2 and 3.
Your pff team grading system makes absolutely no sense. The Dolphins are 1st in offence and 8th in defence… and somehow 9th overall, whereas the chiefs are 4th and 10 respectively, yet they're 2nd overall. Can that somehow be explained? The chiefs are somehow better than the dolphins despite having a worse offence and defence.
Also, Mahomes has some insanely higher power rating rank than Tua, despite having a lower grade, higher turnover worthy rate, and less big time throws. Please, make it all make sense. I'm going to spam you with this question until it's answered.
What McDaniels is doing wrong is most likely involves communication between players and staff. As HC you cannot be just of Xs and Os…
From a Washington fan perspective, I think there's some stuff that needs to be factored in here. First, Chase Young's knee injury wasn't a normal ACL tear. He tore the ligaments AND the patelar tendon. One medical commentator said he'd never seen someone tear both in the same injury. In order to fix the tendon in one knee, they took donor material from the other. Young looks fresh and explosive again now (albeit maybe not quite as much as when he was a rookie), but those knees are going to make every team doctor cringe when the HC asks about them.
The second thing that devalues Young is that he isn't just 'less good' at stopping the run. The guy refuses to play assignment football and honor his run gaps. Earlier this year, Rivera hung a banner in the facility with the Belichick phrase 'Do Your Job' on it. While this was aimed at the whole team, there are some insiders who have mentioned that it was particularly aimed at Chase Young.
Third, Chase Young has been caught loafing rather alot this year on the field. Young is often seen, not just in the all-22 40 yards from the play, but often in the TV copy 10 yards away loafing and jogging while an active ballcarrier gains yards. I'm not saying it's every down, or that Young is worse than the average NFL DE about it…but it stands out because Sweat/Payne/Allen are all high effort guys.
Fourth, Rivera has had issues with Young off the field. There's friction there. And Rivera is a player's coach. His players usually love him. Young hasn't stepped into the leadership role the team envisioned when he was drafted and based on his rookie charisma. He's just a guy now.
I like him going to SF. I think Bosa and the 49er coaching staff will get the best out of him. He really is talented, but he needs a fresh start.
Like Sam, I wondered why the Bears wouldn't have traded for Chase Young rather than Montez Sweat considering age and the fact the draft cost wasn't as much. It occurred to me last night that maybe the Bears talked to both Young and Sweat's representatives and Sweat was the one more willing to consider a long-term deal. Maybe Young wanted to test free agency. It would explain not only why the Bears went with Sweat but also why the price for Young was relatively low. The 49ers might have been willing to trade the draft capital in exchange for the rental because they are all in for this year.
We can still sign chance when free agency starts
Too much being read into the Lions trading for People Jones.
We lost Marvin Jones to an unfathomable personal issue so needed another body for the group.