Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard provided an update after a mother and two young boys were found frozen to death over the weekend in a wooded area in Pontiac.
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There is a FAILED mental health system in America. Not enough funds also. Look @ all of our homeless. This should NEVER happen in America. How disgraceful !!!! Prayers !!!
Confused here, did they freeze in a car or a house in town of Pontiac? So very sad and sorry to hear of this! What happened and why didn't mother seek help??
So sad. Great commentary on this family. Thank you for listing the resources, which are so very important. And for expressing empathy and true concern. People struggling are afraid to reach out. Thank you for keeping it real…
Officials and agencies as well as, city officials need to take action and stop giving lip service and passing the buck. Have you ever seen how much these officials spend on their in house banquets and other useless crap! It’s criminal! 😡
There's not enough of the right resources out there. No matter what they're saying. Housing affordability and shortages. No mental facilities that really help. A real mental illness is not going to be fixed in a couple days. Just like homeless because of no affordable housing isn't going to be fixed in a couple of days. Does anyone who can make a difference even care?
Coming from experience, you can ask for help to your blue in the face it doesn't mean you are going to get it. My doc referred me to mental health services and I called repeatedly. Each time forced to go through several humiliating 'screenings' then told I would receive a call in 2 to 3 days which never came so I would have to call back where they told me each time that it wasn't approved bc I suppose I wasn't su1c1dal enough🤷♀️. Finally after 4 or 5 times of doing this and my doc telling me she would call them and I needed to keep trying, they told me they will only even do the screenings once a year so I needed to wait 11- 1/2 months and call back again. I learned real quick nobody really cares until something bad happens and even then it's quickly put out of mind. And all they have to say is why didn't you just ask for help? Scoff I was at a place where I was so desperate I was willing to suffer the indignity of it all, but I've also been at points where the amount of interactions and work and stress of trying to figure out how to get help was so freaking overwhelming I couldn't manage it. Between insurance and who accepts new patients and who treats what it's a screwed up system and the blame goes to the mentally ill and god forbid you fail and show your frustrations while trying to figure it all out because they just hang up on you or send you to an automated system to start all over.
How about WALK IN CUSTOMER SERVICE? Why are all of these "sources" only available via phone or internet? How can CHILDREN seek help? Let's get the word out to appropriately aged children!! Telling news reporters doesn't get the word out to where it needs to be. So many people do not watch regular TV with news. Put public service announcements where they can be seen by those who need the services. OAKLAND County is HUGE. Open offices in the strip malls!!
No help is not available to everyone,, get it right mister!! You have to have acceptable health insurance plus people don't care,, they say they do but it's not true…The warren police treated me like a criminal when I lost my home ,,the cop put his hands on me & shook me…I wish he would of shot me but he had violence In his actions ,,& as a woman that is crippled had no way or right to defend myself..
People with Mental health Issues are treat badly,, we are burden's & must people that even work in the profession are mean, unkind, rude, & treat us like we are less than… That's how I was treated ,,who needs or wants that 💔 also nurses make fun of patients with problem's ,, people need to know that… I work with nurses that were ruthless…
Shame on Sheriff Bouchard for blaming the victims family. Even if the family had called, they wouldn't have been able to take her in unless she went willingly or admitted to feeling suicidal
This is a waste of time asking a sick person to seek help when in Kansas if they say they are well nothing gets done. Family can admit them for help and the my husband said he had no problem he was all right
Heartbreaking. Those babies…sometimes family needs to call CPS for help. They help with parenting. They do not remove children unless in dire need of separation. Do not let a tragedy like happen again. You can call Mental Services. Medicaid will help them pay for services.
A very hard lesson to learn. Please offer to babysit troubled family members children and visit often. Now they must plan funerals. Especially if family member is resistant to help.
So he forgot to tell the timeline of her walking around busy streets from Perry St. for 3 days and nights, with cars passing by, her knocking on doors asking for food and water with 3 half naked kids in tow. Lets get some ring doorbell videos in the area and look at them walking around amlessly, trying to get help just so we can see if she looks suspisious. Then the cops say a heavyset black women with 3 half naked kids in tow was impossible to locate upon 911 phone calls to them. The timeline is shortened and facts are purposely being left out of this lousey storytail. Heck, maybe she was right about what she was scared of.
I mean its really sad but I am not sure what more could have been done. They were aware of the situation and doing what they could to try and help but the mother was paranoid and thought everyone was after her and her kids so she taught them to run away from anybody that tried to approach them.
This is a shame what happened to the family. A month ago or so I met a lady at the gas station she asked me for a blanket that I didn’t have. I run home got some food clothes socks. I called at least five agencies to take her just for one night. She wanted to go to mental hospital she was depressed and suicidal.Paramedics came and police and she changed her mind. I was with her for over two hours, outside in the cold, this African American woman was lost. I couldn’t take her home and it wasn’t safe for me to drop her off at any of those places. She wasn’t aggressive in public. I was very disappointed in our system, there was absolutely no help for that young woman for one night just to lay down. I let her use my telephone and talk to one of those people and the lady had a audacity to ask her if I’m bothering her. Poor Deanna just wonder in a dark. Our Government and system is more than terrible.
Get the hell out of here you guys failed those children you didn’t do your job and no way did you go look for those kids when calls of them being dressed inappropriately! No one cares if you were senator maybe instead of talking about yourself you should put more effort into doing your job! SMH…. Disgusting!
So mom thought those trying to help her were trying to kill her. Brain is a part of our body. Drs wont prescribe pain meds so chronic pain sufferers trust Cartels to be a pharm, FDA. I KNOW OF 6 NOW that couldnt handle pain to get by. Oath of Drs is now a lie. God Bless & Stay Safe💜🙏💜
1/18/23: 😠😠The people would not have froze to Death outside if the Social Workers were doing their Job🖕 Blame on Mental Health, to JUSTIFY, your Social workers aren't doing their Job 😠 🖕 Ya know what, I watched Medical facilities make a blind man walk homeless for 4 yrs, then I got a hold of him, took him to the eye doctors and all he needed was cataract Surgery here in MARYLAND, all I did was get him an Appt, registered with Specialist and he was Set for Cataract surgery but the Healthcare facility called healthcare for the Homeless, he'd been going to for diabetes never referred him to eye specialist, they just said, that's what diabetes does to you😠🖕🖕 F$#@k all you Social and housing HUD Orgs across this COUNTRY 🇺🇲 Patty Sue in MARYLAND
This situation could have been avoided if, the police had done better job of handling things. Apparently, she was having a mental meltdown and needed to been hospitalized to receive help. Especially, since she had children involved who can't protect themselves from their mom. It just sad and it breaks my heart 💔 thinking about how those children died the way they did. Condolences goes out to the family and my prayers goes out to the family that they get help for the 10 year old and that they also get the justice for the Lost their love ones who died. R.I.P little angels you are at peace now. 💔✝️✝️🙏🙏
IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING BLACK, MS. COMMISIONER. White girls are taught the same thing as they grow to womanhood. Be strong, take care of everyone, don't complain! WHY DO YOU NEED TO SEPERATE THE RACES?
They destroyed mental health system so now we all have to be careful what we say so a mental patient that should but won't be treated doesn't kill us because we wore blue that day or red. Back in the old days violent mental people were out right killed in the 1200s this I guess is what we are going to come back to. Because no one will do anything under a dementia patient leader who can't get proper care even on a presidents salary.
Mental health agencies get plenty of 💰 from the government but, most goes to pay employees huge salaries and not enough to help patients that need the help.
So very sad. Thank you Lord for you are all mighty , Bless this family and the child of God . please guide this child down the right path and family can help her with what's ahead.
There is a FAILED mental health system in America. Not enough funds also. Look @ all of our homeless. This should NEVER happen in America. How disgraceful !!!! Prayers !!!
Confused here, did they freeze in a car or a house in town of Pontiac? So very sad and sorry to hear of this! What happened and why didn't mother seek help??
So sad. Great commentary on this family. Thank you for listing the resources, which are so very important. And for expressing empathy and true concern. People struggling are afraid to reach out. Thank you for keeping it real…
Prayers for the little girl.
Officials and agencies as well as, city officials need to take action and stop giving lip service and passing the buck. Have you ever seen how much these officials spend on their in house banquets and other useless crap! It’s criminal! 😡
So sad I wish she would have got some help. Praying for her family 😪😪😪😪
Jeez
Wow
Is so sad 😭😭😭😭
There's not enough of the right resources out there. No matter what they're saying. Housing affordability and shortages. No mental facilities that really help. A real mental illness is not going to be fixed in a couple days. Just like homeless because of no affordable housing isn't going to be fixed in a couple of days. Does anyone who can make a difference even care?
Why does your social culture matter in NY since Michigan isnt NY? Bye
Coming from experience, you can ask for help to your blue in the face it doesn't mean you are going to get it. My doc referred me to mental health services and I called repeatedly. Each time forced to go through several humiliating 'screenings' then told I would receive a call in 2 to 3 days which never came so I would have to call back where they told me each time that it wasn't approved bc I suppose I wasn't su1c1dal enough🤷♀️. Finally after 4 or 5 times of doing this and my doc telling me she would call them and I needed to keep trying, they told me they will only even do the screenings once a year so I needed to wait 11- 1/2 months and call back again. I learned real quick nobody really cares until something bad happens and even then it's quickly put out of mind. And all they have to say is why didn't you just ask for help? Scoff I was at a place where I was so desperate I was willing to suffer the indignity of it all, but I've also been at points where the amount of interactions and work and stress of trying to figure out how to get help was so freaking overwhelming I couldn't manage it. Between insurance and who accepts new patients and who treats what it's a screwed up system and the blame goes to the mentally ill and god forbid you fail and show your frustrations while trying to figure it all out because they just hang up on you or send you to an automated system to start all over.
How about WALK IN CUSTOMER SERVICE? Why are all of these "sources" only available via phone or internet? How can CHILDREN seek help? Let's get the word out to appropriately aged children!!
Telling news reporters doesn't get the word out to where it needs to be. So many people do not watch regular TV with news. Put public service announcements where they can be seen by those who need the services.
OAKLAND County is HUGE. Open offices in the strip malls!!
The Federal Government (Biden Admin) is spending too many billions housing and feeding foreigners instead of taking care of the people born here.
No help is not available to everyone,, get it right mister!! You have to have acceptable health insurance plus people don't care,, they say they do but it's not true…The warren police treated me like a criminal when I lost my home ,,the cop put his hands on me & shook me…I wish he would of shot me but he had violence In his actions ,,& as a woman that is crippled had no way or right to defend myself..
People with Mental health Issues are treat badly,, we are burden's & must people that even work in the profession are mean, unkind, rude, & treat us like we are less than… That's how I was treated ,,who needs or wants that 💔 also nurses make fun of patients with problem's ,, people need to know that… I work with nurses that were ruthless…
Shame on Sheriff Bouchard for blaming the victims family. Even if the family had called, they wouldn't have been able to take her in unless she went willingly or admitted to feeling suicidal
But you can get clean needles and a quick start kit for shooting dope near Kensington Ave in Philadelphia Pennsylvania. Completely free!
This is a waste of time asking a sick person to seek help when in Kansas if they say they are well nothing gets done. Family can admit them for help and the my husband said he had no problem he was all right
Omg so terribly sad😔 My thoughts and prayers go out to the family at this time. 🙏
Heartbreaking. Those babies…sometimes family needs to call CPS for help. They help with parenting. They do not remove children unless in dire need of separation. Do not let a tragedy like happen again. You can call Mental Services. Medicaid will help them pay for services.
A very hard lesson to learn. Please offer to babysit troubled family members children and visit often. Now they must plan funerals. Especially if family member is resistant to help.
So he forgot to tell the timeline of her walking around busy streets from Perry St. for 3 days and nights, with cars passing by, her knocking on doors asking for food and water with 3 half naked kids in tow. Lets get some ring doorbell videos in the area and look at them walking around amlessly, trying to get help just so we can see if she looks suspisious. Then the cops say a heavyset black women with 3 half naked kids in tow was impossible to locate upon 911 phone calls to them. The timeline is shortened and facts are purposely being left out of this lousey storytail. Heck, maybe she was right about what she was scared of.
I blame the city. Had these people been illegal immigrants the state would have housing, food and a vehicle for them
I mean its really sad but I am not sure what more could have been done. They were aware of the situation and doing what they could to try and help but the mother was paranoid and thought everyone was after her and her kids so she taught them to run away from anybody that tried to approach them.
This is a shame what happened to the family. A month ago or so I met a lady at the gas station she asked me for a blanket that I didn’t have. I run home got some food clothes socks. I called at least five agencies to take her just for one night. She wanted to go to mental hospital she was depressed and suicidal.Paramedics came and police and she changed her mind. I was with her for over two hours, outside in the cold, this African American woman was lost. I couldn’t take her home and it wasn’t safe for me to drop her off at any of those places. She wasn’t aggressive in public. I was very disappointed in our system, there was absolutely no help for that young woman for one night just to lay down. I let her use my telephone and talk to one of those people and the lady had a audacity to ask her if I’m bothering her. Poor Deanna just wonder in a dark. Our Government and system is more than terrible.
Get the hell out of here you guys failed those children you didn’t do your job and no way did you go look for those kids when calls of them being dressed inappropriately! No one cares if you were senator maybe instead of talking about yourself you should put more effort into doing your job! SMH…. Disgusting!
This is so 😢 sad.. I would of let them in my house.. I have room.. I just don't have enough money for myself.. but I still would help..
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So mom thought those trying to help her were trying to kill her. Brain is a part of our body. Drs wont prescribe pain meds so chronic pain sufferers trust Cartels to be a pharm, FDA. I KNOW OF 6 NOW that couldnt handle pain to get by. Oath of Drs is now a lie. God Bless & Stay Safe💜🙏💜
God bless her and kids 💔 rip 😭 so sad 😭 the children rip 😭
1/18/23: 😠😠The people would not have froze to Death outside if the Social Workers were doing their Job🖕 Blame on Mental Health, to JUSTIFY, your Social workers aren't doing their Job 😠 🖕
Ya know what, I watched Medical facilities make a blind man walk homeless for 4 yrs, then I got a hold of him, took him to the eye doctors and all he needed was cataract Surgery here in MARYLAND, all I did was get him an Appt, registered with Specialist and he was Set for Cataract surgery but the Healthcare facility called healthcare for the Homeless, he'd been going to for diabetes never referred him to eye specialist, they just said, that's what diabetes does to you😠🖕🖕
F$#@k all you Social and housing HUD Orgs across this COUNTRY 🇺🇲
Patty Sue in MARYLAND
This is unacceptable on so many levels omg!!!!
The woman was a targeted individual. She wasn’t crazy. She was being targeted.
I had a Pontiac once and it didn’t have heat, it was a common problem with those.
Awwww…..💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
This situation could have been avoided if, the police had done better job of handling things. Apparently, she was having a mental meltdown and needed to been hospitalized to receive help. Especially, since she had children involved who can't protect themselves from their mom. It just sad and it breaks my heart 💔 thinking about how those children died the way they did.
Condolences goes out to the family and my prayers goes out to the family that they get help for the 10 year old and that they also get the justice for the Lost their love ones who died. R.I.P little angels you are at peace now. 💔✝️✝️🙏🙏
Prayers for this young woman chef young children
Too little too late 😢
This breaks my heart..
IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING BLACK, MS. COMMISIONER. White girls are taught the same thing as they grow to womanhood. Be strong, take care of everyone, don't complain! WHY DO YOU NEED TO SEPERATE THE RACES?
They destroyed mental health system so now we all have to be careful what we say so a mental patient that should but won't be treated doesn't kill us because we wore blue that day or red. Back in the old days violent mental people were out right killed in the 1200s this I guess is what we are going to come back to. Because no one will do anything under a dementia patient leader who can't get proper care even on a presidents salary.
Mental health agencies get plenty of 💰 from the government but, most goes to pay employees huge salaries and not enough to help patients that need the help.
We spend so much 💰 for corrupt 👮 and can't take care of the people that really need it.
So very sad. Thank you Lord for you are all mighty , Bless this family and the child of God . please guide this child down the right path and family can help her with what's ahead.