In this episode we come off the mountain after hitting the trail in the new INEOS Grenadier Quartermaster! We go deeper than our video review. Plus, Deman reliability vs stock GT3; Australian Supercar License claims its first victim, and Patreon Q&A!
Recorded December 4, 2024
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4:18 – Jeeez that looks close to the edge to a city street pleb as myself.
3:30 I don't have a $100k system, but whatever audio processing you did is WILD lol. I can't believe you can get such directional audio from just lav mics.
I'm triggered by the word "master" in all of their model lines. Its like they're trying to put black people in chains or something. HGTV told me that I have to start calling it "primary". So instead of Trialmaster, call it Trialprimary please!!!!!
30:18 Watt and kilowatt are THE UNITS to measure power. Not the freaking horsepowers, which are different to every country for some reason. Props to Australia for using kilowatts.
Tanner needs to come on the show for sure! And Mike spinelli
It sounds like you’re in a parked Rolls-Royce. I would not have guessed off-roading in an INEOS.
Quartermaster also refers to an armorer for fancy English people who don't have to work. That's why Q is called Q in James Bond. I love a good fuel gauge discussion. Had a 2002 Volvo that had similar gauge behavior to the NSX. The Volvo had a lot of movement between F and E but probably more fuel was used when it was motionless over either F or E, than in between, if that makes sense. When money is tight and ten bucks doesn't get you of the E range it can get anxious behind the wheel. Ran out of gas on the 101 going up the hill into the valley from Hollywood one time. Also podcast had great audio quality for driving on and off road.
Aren't many fuel pumps cooled by the fuel in the tank? Possibly conservative to insure the pump doesn't overheat?
lol, that was my Grenadier you saw on the way out. And it LA City Fire not county, never make that mistake. I was rock climbing at Texas Canyon. BTW I love my truck, I have 16k miles on it. The steering is a non issue.
From dining he has, only request…* KIDS* Remove it please from your discretion of audience
The reason that the NSX tank has reserve volume set that way is due to the requirement that the car be able to drive up a certain grade for a certain distance with the fuel left when the reserve light comes on. Likely a wide flat tank where the fuel can run away from the fuel pump pickup on an incline/decline.
Quartermaster was the guy/boy who ran the gear storage area of our scout shack back when I was in the Boy Scouts of America. Camping supplies, etc.
Whatever changes were made to the audio system, please keep using that system. This is the highest fidelity of audio I’ve heard from you guys.
I hate to be a pain in the ass, but I would have loved to have seen you do the normal audio for the video, then save the edited, noise canceled version for the audio only posts. Kind of drives ya nuts to see the car move but not hear anything.
To Zach's question about front parking sensors while reversing: I noticed a similar behavior on CDJR vehicles at my dealership (Pacifica comes to mind) and I think it has to do with turning. If you back out of a parking spot and start turning the wheel you could clip a vehicle parked next to you with the front fascia. It would make sense to only activate the front corner sensors (side facing) but the system (front or rear) is all or nothing. When pulling forward out of a parking spot the rear fascia is unlikely to clip a neighboring car so the rear sensors are disabled.
26:25 I was just explaining this to my new driver at work, my logic is that if you are reversing, you have the potential of swinging the car out left and right, and if somebody is on the corners of the front of your vehicle, there is potential of bumping into them or the object in front of you, even though you are reversing. And on the flipside of that if you are moving forward, you don’t have any chance of turning into somebody as you leave a spot unless you are the hummer EV and decide to crab walk out of a parking space lol 😅
That low tire pressure warning sounds like I’m selecting a menu option on my PlayStation
You can turn the back up camera back on in the off-road menus while in off road mode.
I think with the Australian performance car licence is it could be a thing that is trivial to get, but they can revoke it if you act like a moron. That way there would be a lower threshold to have that licence revoked as you could still drive to work in a regular car.
Funny, was wondering why you never talk about the Plymouth GTX then searched and Mike Musto is
the most boring review ever.
People need to stop equating PPF and ceramic coating / Reflex. The latter are really there to make cleaning easier. Only PPF is truly giving you a protective barrier.
I really think Land Rover made a whoppsie by not creating a G wagen competitor like this Ineos. I have a new defender and absolutely love it but its more a modern Disco 1 than a modern Defender
Australian high powered license – not designed to train you to drive, just designed to be there to revoke your ability to drive those cars on the road if you get busted. So it's cheap to get (so that if you're not wealthy, it's not egregious to obtain.)
I dont think it's the best solution, but I understand why they introduced it (there had to be something purely for social response after a guy killed a little girl with his lambo here in adelaide)….
16:00 the actor from The Gentleman already did a commercial at an estate but with a Range Rover
Note: In an attempt to get rid of road noise we used Adobe voice enhance, which has served us well in the past. However, listeners are saying there's some weird overlap and sound effects. We are uploading raw versions to Spotify now to replace those audio versions. If you want us to replace the video version, comment below. – ZK
A quartermaster is a logistical leader
I always thought the first BMW Z4 looked weird in photos, but I love how they look irl.
My 07 civic si acts almost as conservative as the nsx with me usually having 2-2.5 gallons of gas left when the light turns on. I think its just a honda thing
Typical pseudo expert comment. R compounds in the wet are better….they have softer compound which grip wet and cold roads better, including at low tread height. Only have to drive as appropriate speed as needed in standing water, to avoid hydroplaning……which u should do on any tire.
@thesmokingtirepodcast Matt, you won't scratch the paint leaning on it when it's ppf'd…correct, bit body weight or mechanics leaning on fenders does create small to large undulations and ripples…just an fyi
Bugatti SS looks weird in photos w/ that long ass rear end but when I see it when I’m sleeping it looks pretty insatiable 🤷♂️
Was this car made by or have anything to do with Microsoft? Because all the pop up noise and infotanment sounds sound exactly like a xbox 😂😂
It's a stupid law in South Australia, & if he wasn't running plates he is a fool, Rj in Australia
Just had the longest day of exams you guys are kings thank you for the episode. Seen a few grenadiers in NC but its still if you know you know. Everyone gets the blue though to stand out and they LOVED being the first person at car shows to have one haha.
Fuel gauge behaviour has always got me… and thank fully my two cars I own now are so accurate and constant through the whole tank, it makes determining when you need the next fuel stop a breeze.
My Australian WH Statesman INTERNATIONAL with an LS1 and 280,000 kilometres is near spot on. Normal driving it's about 150 kilometres every 1/4 tank… with the first quarter and the last quarter having bit more than the two middle quarters. (75 litre tank)
My Ford Focus ST Mark IV manual is also about 150 kilometres every 1/4, much smaller tank at 52 litres, but it is about spot on for all the 4 quarters.
My previous Mark VII Fiesta ST was nowhere near as good as the modern Focus ST in accuracy and how it dropped…. the Fiesta looked like it was doing amazing for the first 1/2 tank, but the second half dropped off a lot quicker.
You guys should try get a Podcast with Garret Micthell… Cleetus McFarland… as he's both a fixed wing and Helicopter pilot besides being an awesome petrol head.
He's one of the most accomplished You-tubers doing automotive stuff on the web and is obviously a very educated and intelligent man… with his head screwed on right… would be a great podcast…. assuming you have not don one with him already.
AUSTRALIA: You must have plates on the front and back of ALL cars… and this new rule is ONLY SOUTH AUSTRALIA where you now need to sit an extra exam to have the addition of being able to drive cars… and I convert for you…. with more than 370 horsepower per 2200 pounds.
The law is written in the name and blood of a young girl named Sophie Naismith…
QUOTE.. "Sophia Naismith was the 15-year-old girl who died after being struck by a Lamborghini in 2019, prompting the introduction of a new license for drivers of ultra-high powered vehicles (UHPVs) in South Australia"..
I would suggest Zac, that the law is NOT a revenue grab as it is going to affect so few cars and thus licensed drivers relatively, and simply ask them to take an online test that may help them be more aware of how to drive a car with ultra high horsepower for the weight of the car. The cost is only $40 USD
Just like in most motor sport, many rules are written essentially in the blood of those who were injured or died that helped bring about a change to law.
No one likes extra laws, but sometimes it just makes sense, and in this case, affect very few people and the ones it does… can afford it…. as it is in this case.
The new rule in SOUTH AUSTRALIA that seems to have got less interest but to me is more controversial… is the following law….
QUOTE…: " Drivers of UHPVs are also not allowed to turn off driver aids such as stability control, traction control, and autonomous emergency braking on public roads."
It's such a shame that Aussie "High Speed License" is just another lazy, bureaucratic cash grab from a country that has descended into full-on commie-leaning socialism.
Especially when you consider it's the same country that allows people to herd massive packs of cattle WITH HELICOPTERS (like, ultra low to the ground too, those dudes are insane).
We really do need a country to institute a proper "high performance" license, that sets a good example for others to follow.
I'd say the US should do it, but living in CA like you guys, I would never trust CARB not to involve themselves in that process.
The G80 M3… hated the front end but the first time I saw one… had to admit it wasn't as bad.
Being an Aussie, I haven't seen a Cybertruck, but I dread the day I do and the inner car guy says it's doesn't look bad….!
How do you decide between PPF and ceramic? Price, and they aren't even close to the same thing. One protects against rock chips, the othe against UV and other fall out
To Matt’s point about riding a motorcycle and learning to predict other driver’s actions, this can also be learned in small, slow cars. My first car was a Fiero (hence the profile pic), and that taught me to scan constantly and predict other drivers actions to a high degree. It was needed as it didn’t have enough power to accelerate away from situations (like most motorcycles can), and I was always acutely aware of just how much smaller it was compared to everything else on the road. I think if you want to get someone on a motorcycle, putting them in a small car like a Fiero or first gen Miata first can really help teach road awareness with a little less danger involved.
I didnt like the new GR86/brz in photos. The wheels gap, and the curves didnt come through well. …then in person it was awesome. Actually really like the new M2 in person aswell🤷🏾♂️
Shout-out to Zach for liking MGB GTs.
I think your Toyotas front sensors are on because it's still easy to hit stuff with the front when in reverse.
That log being "towed" from back in the One Take days has to be up there for craziest things seen while canyon driving.