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5:54 Adeptus Mechanicus
6:59 Astra Militarum
12:14 Black Templars
12:55 Blood Angels
14:06 Chaos Demons
14:58 Chaos Knights
16:37 Chaos Space Marines
17:55 Dark Angels
19:50 Drukhari
23:06 Genestealer Cults
25:11 Grey Knights
28:22 Imperial Agents
29:23 Imperial Knights
30:23 Leagues of Votann
30:42 Necrons
34:00 Orks
35:19 Space Marines
44:42 Space Wolves
44:59 T’au
45:22 Tyranids
48:17 Overall Thoughts
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Retaliation Cadre and Kauyon took big hits with this Dataslate. Big winrate drops incoming.
I guess I might as well build and paint the Outriders and a maybe a Bike Chaplain. I think the time has come to try and make them work, beyond rule of cool.
Ridgerunners and abominants going up is needed and fair. Abominants going up 20 feels wild.
Do you think the Drukari changes are due to what new Detachment they are going to be getting?
I don't think anyone with the models is bringing 10 death company with a character when you can bring 2 6man squads of outriders for that price.
Thanks John and Quinton
I just love how it seems like the mentality of the designers look at Drukhari Scourges and go, this needs a nerf since everyone takes them, when the total number of available anti-monster units that would otherwise last past turn 2 is zero if it was not for them. Everything else get blasted out of the sky in 1 turn if it shows it face and even with scourges you only have so many turns until overwatch gets you. Even worse, the Voidraven Bomber was the only realistic alternative to it…
Inspectors might be one of the best oath users. +1 to wound rerolls everything
Showing the points change is so nice
Sternguard seem decent in deathwatch with a beacon angelis libby. Not sure if that's worth the points though.
Leontus is dead, there's no need for him and certainly not at 150. Just take tank commanders.
“Grey knights are good” and yet they aren’t. I remember everyone foaming at the gray knights index in the beginning and it came out and we had no damage lol
0:00 Sponsors
0:48 Intro
3:10 Adepta Sororitas
4:27 Adeptus Custodes
5:54 Adeptus Mechanicus
6:59 Astra Militarum
12:14 Black Templars
12:55 Blood Angels
14:06 Chaos Demons
14:58 Chaos Knights
16:37 Chaos Space Marines
17:55 Dark Angels
19:50 Drukhari
23:06 Genestealer Cults
25:11 Grey Knights
28:22 Imperial Agents
29:23 Imperial Knights
30:23 Leagues of Votann
30:42 Necrons
34:00 Orks
35:19 Space Marines
44:42 Space Wolves
44:59 T'au
45:22 Tyranids
48:17 Overall Thoughts
I wonder whether they should just decrease the points of every unit that does not see any play competitively till it does. I find it weird that necrons get a balance pass but a load of other factions dont.
Sisters getting nerfed with rules and points was too much. That was brutal for so many unreliable data sheets. Straight to the toilet they go.
me excited to see tsons get points changes to non sorcerer units so I can actually play a functional game
* Sees 0 changes*
Why is GW like this???
No way gw for the first time ever didn’t touch our world eaters MOE, still shouldn’t be 100pts
tankbustas now being an all rokkit squad is kinda insteresting. Put them in a trukk and you get 6d3 rokkit attacks. yeah it's ork shooting but still s9 ap d3 ain't to shabby
Sisters still fine eh? Be interesting to revisit that take in a few months 😀
Quinton: "Vindicare went from bad to… not good." DEAD 🤣
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Does Games Workshop have a Necrons player on their balance team?
Great job.
This is how you know that the nerves were a fail for guard: his worlds list took less of a hit Then someone running a mediocre list with a super heavy. I'm really crossing my fingers They fix them in the codex so that every unit in the army can receive orders.
“Sisters are in a good spot” as they get double knee capped with a 50% win rate.
Fantastic video, great to see Quinton and John having fun.
So just saw Skari’s channel were he apologized for the voidraven bomber going up in points.😂 He took full responsibility for all Drukhari point increases. 🎉 Poor guy.😊
Leo nuts sucks. 150 for a cp? No thanks
The attention to detail the Necron changes got combined with their just consistently above average meta performance all edition shows the balance team's hardcore bias for Necrons. I'm also sensing a seething rage for Drukhari.
RIP the Lion, you were never in any lists, but it still feels like I lost you anyway.
Pacific rim is now what I'm calling my list
Stompah could definetly went down
Hounds of morkai ignored in the phobos armor buff really shows how much attention they give necrons over other factions.
I guess you have advanced copies of the Eldar codex with that sly laugh…mmmmmmmm, remind me in 3 months 🙂
My starshatter Arsenal list was 1990 points, and now it's 2000. My OCD is actually happy with the point increases, lol
Hyped for assimilation swarm! Warriors plus warrior prime with parasitic biomorphology looks scrumptious. Hyped for some norn action too <3
Reivers Also gets deepstrike.. in vanguard is very usefull
Here we go again and give a whole lot of nothing to imperial agents 🎉 No matter how hard sisters got beaten up – no worry, you still won't be last in ratings. Your army rule got nerfed hard, but hey, at least you have one.
I really loved the Segment in which John compared Incursors and Reivers. That was a really thought-exercise, talk about mentally painting a picture.
I know the buffs were massive, but I think Marines got done really dirty by the points. I'm not talking about the things that went up necessarily, I'm talking about the things that went up last update because of Fire Discipline and now that fire discipline got nerfed, stayed expensive for some reason?
You basically never see Aggressors in competitive. Why are they still 240 for 6? Why didn't Eradicators go back down, now that their combo was removed? Why are Eliminators still at 85 for a movement trick they haven't been able to do since June?
Chimera not dead IMO. Now a bit less of a throwaway and need to get the value out of firing deck. Synergise with ogryn more now.
Just want to say how much I appreciate the recent change to Superchats at the end! Makes it so much more listenable.