This month, NASA began a new simulated mission to Phobos via their HERA project with an all-female crew. This is not the first time NASA has simulated a manned Phobos mission. Why is a Phobos base so advantageous for Mars exploration and colonization?
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If Phobos is coherent enough, full shielding can be had if it's built inside the moon. Phobos has tiny gravity, and may be a good place for astronauts to relieve the zero-g bends before going to Mars.
69km of tape and just tie it to the moon
why not just land a starship as a permanent base. Tanks built in. habitat built in.
Lol, spacex isnt getting anywhere close to mars 🤣🤣🤣
Musk needs to focus on one thing and one thing only, make starship fly and return. If this fails it wont matter what happens next, moon mars or phobos as it will never happen and musk could be bankrupt. Once it can fly and return all these "5-10 year" away ideas can start.
Building a base on Phobos could be an excellent idea. Dig down and you get shielding from cosmic radiation and you can have people on site remote controlling vehicles on Mars surface with a minimum of lightspeed lag.
I have said the same thing. Earth/Luna. Phobos/Mars Transit is a perfect way of expanding a Human presence in our Solar System. Great Video Angry Astronaut…..
But doesn't a skyhook mean that Phobos rotation speed must decreases thus losing the benefit of escaping the gravity of March with momentum?
A landing on Mars will also use less fuel because… Gravity. I would like to know if that would balance the amount of fuel needed.
The interesting fact about Phobos is that its sphere of influence is inside it. It barely has any gravity
I did not realize that on Mars the atmosphere is so thin that little heat conduction is possible, so an inflatable surface would work much the same as on the Moon, or Phobos. On Phobos you are pointing out the hub possibility like the lunar gateway would be. Ability to receive shipments with little fuel to take off and land, and tethers are easily viable. Ability to get water from the surface. Ion engines are able to just dock deliveries means if you get one Moon base near earth you get a second on Phobos near Mars almost for free with a nuke power supply and ion engines you receive 30 plus years of shipping with no new fuel needed, and you use hydrogen taken from surface ice. Keep in mind that Graphene ink can print coils that can be powered by a simple microwave beam, and weigh near nothing to provide radiation shielding, aerogel and water in it can do the same, but can have organisms that create melanin to protect you too.
It was great to hear about the sky hook. I've thought this was the best reason to land on Phobos to allow modules to be lowered to near the Martian surface. I'm not sure how useful it would be to move people and supplies from the Martian surface.
While the fuel issue has to remain relevant even if just a contingency the whole process would be more manageable under nuclear propulsion or other alternatives. This goes for our current lunar situation too.
So what? NASA supposedly plans all kinds of cool sounding missions like this Phobos base but they never do any of them. They just put these releases out to generate buzz. I hate NASA!
Whether Mars or even Moon landings happening again will ever occur has to be under question. First there will always be people saying problems on Earth should be addressed first before exploring space, which frankly is saying space exploration should never occur because those problems have existed for some time, a long time, a very long time and some even as long as humans have existed, and at least some of those problems will always exist as long as humans exist. Also you have the problem of the Moon hoaxers, who believe the Moon landings were no more than film sets in a Hollywood studio. Absurd as it is, A third of the US people believe the landings were staged and this figure will only increase in the future as the number of people who lived through the Apollo programme inexorably and inevitably decreases with each passing day. Already you could say “never in the field of human Endeavour has such a brilliant, outstanding and great technical and engineering achievement been disbelieved by so many people”.
With a world becoming more scientifically illiterate by the year, where will the future engineers and scientists come from who will make landings on the Moon and Mars possible?
how bout we go with an all trans gender crew? You take the best for the job regardless of gender, race and all that other bullshit, go woke go broke
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Base needs made out of Phobos to make it spherical and larger so energy can travel around it better increasing magnetic field.
A sky hook on Phobos might slow down the orbit so the moon eventually will crash into Mars.
Landing a massive spacecraft on Phoboi may be tricky. The 'gravity' is so low… OK for automatic extraction robots, but for a Starship, or human rated spacecraft… not a bit dangerous ?
You forgot to mention the explanation of the Monolith on Phobos, and given that the Russian probes to Phobos were either shot down/destroyed/disabled as they were in proximity of the Martian Moon.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory, Roscosmos itself showed the shadow of the craft right before Phobos 2 suffered its fate on Mars.
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You didn’t take into account mars 2/3 gravity of earth when considering propulsive landing requirements. Sur higher terminal velocity but less gravity.
then we could check out that obelisk that's been shooting down russian drones!
That skyhook idea, didn't NASA try to dangle some copper wire back in the day of skylab and the cable exploded due to the difference in electrical current between the van allen belt's, does not Mars have some weak electrical/magnetic fields ?
1. 12 personal? MORE than 2 toilets. Especially when people get sick.
2. Microgravity? IMPROVE toilet design!
3. Centrifuge–make it big enough for 2 beds. Rotate sleeps through them.
Yeah, it's a good idea to check up on some of our earlier bases, from 15000 or more years ago.
Skyhook = bad idea. Satellites in low earth orbit have to periodically boost themselves to their original orbits, because the very, very thin atmosphere – thinner than is found on Mar's high altitude, creates drag that would otherwise cause the satellites to lose altitude until it reentered the Earth's atmosphere and burned up.
lowering a tether into the high Martian atmosphere, will create drag on the tether that will slowly erode Phobos' orbit…. Not a good idea.
How will the NASA lady's eat? Those face masks are doing what? Will a mask help on a ship to mars?