42 thoughts on “Nando reviews Black Panther Wakanda Forever”
I would say that the common theme of phase 4 is “expanding the MCU” – we have the Hex in WANDAVISION, the TVA in LOKI, “the multiverse”in LOKI, WHAT IF, SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME, & DR. STRANGE IN MOM, Ta-Lo in SHANG-CHI, the Eternals and Celestials in ETERNALS, the Duat in MOON KNIGHT, Omnipotent City, Eternity, & the Shadow Realm in THOR 4, MCU 4th Wall Breaks in SHE-HULK, and now Talocán in WAKANDA FOREVER.
4:35 Nah Nando, keep that same energy. Don't go easy on the disdain for the actors actions outside of their work just because the chick who plays Janet is "a lead" not "the lead" Your racial bias is showing my guy.
So many actors spread misinformation. Separate the actor from the character. If she had a good performance, great! Why does the actors politics have to align with yours, no matter how dumb they can be? That shouldn’t affect your opinion.
Marvel is becoming the side kick universe . I appreciate more batman gets to fight all his rogues. And I can only imagine how much better films could be if characters were still around.. like all these cap less cap movies and hulk villians not fighting the hulk what am I looking at..
I still feel Shang Chi is the best film Marvel has released since Endgame.
No Way Home is beautiful, but a 12 year old who’s never felt anything towards the nostalgic characters the movie brings to help it function properly, its just not that big for them besides “cool, Spiderman!”.
Wakanda Forever will be a long, stretched out product for a lot of us on 3rd or 4th viewing. Once you cry enough to let go of the tears for Chadwick, it’s a movie carried by great action and Namor. Nothing else works much besides maybe Nakia and Okoye. The rest feels forced.
Shang Chi delivers a great plot, great characters, humor that fits the script, potentially a top 5 maybe top 3 MCU villain, and every aspect of filmmaking just works: effects, action, editing, score, etc. It’s not perfect or as good as the top tier films of the franchise, but post-Endgame there’s nothing that works as good as Shang Chi does.
It was proven in court that OJ did not do it. It’s not alleged. I have no issue watching a film with him in it, mite it be due to my complexion perhaps?
Hi, Nando. I'd really like to see a ONE SMALL CHANGE video about Wakanda Forever. So much, that I'm offering you my own pitch on it: In my version, Riri Williams was discovered by a Wakandian Educational Center in US, and is rewarded with a academic extension in Shuri's lab in Wakanda, where she develops the vibranium radar, that drives the US millitary attention to Talocan. This small change provides: – More interaction between these two black young geniuses (I'd like to see some contention before fellowship) – A credible reason for Talocan quarrell with Wakanda and Namor demanding they handing over Riri to him – A credible reason for Wakanda's queen and princess to feel that its their duty to protect the girl with their lives – A more dramatic subaquactic rescue, with a well succeded female extraction team headed by Nakia, who nonetheless dies in the effort
– An opportunity for cutting off all that scenes in US and shortening the movie some 20 good minutes
It took me a minute to figure out that “the scientist“ and Riri Williams were the same person. Basically you could’ve just made the scientist a no-name person and it would’ve been just the same.
Gonna be honest Nando, I LITERALLY didn't see that coming as a reason to detract from this film.
And the reason behind that is that I unequivocally forgot that she did those things. I rarely am caught off guard by anything these days, especially on the internet… But man, you couldn't given me a million chances to guess that one.
Seriously there are still people who think there is a vaxx? Like you truly didn't realize it was the biggest money grab of all time and nothing else? Omfg smh
I'm so proud of Latitia Wright as a fellow Christian for standing by her conviction then delivering a truly monumental performance despite everything from sexism, racism to vacism trying to cancel her.
I think it's funny how people keep pointing out how this Namor is so different from the comics. There are like 5 classic Namor fans. Every Marvel fan I've ever met has thought Namor sucked. It's kinda a long going meme with marvel fans. This Namor is sooo much better than the comics, hands down.
Great review. I actually didn't know about the controversy revolving around Letitia Wright. That is unfortunate. Not that I think it would have affected how much I enjoyed the film, but glad to have been ignorant to it anyways 😅 Sorry to hear that it seemed to mar your experience so much 😢
I've been seeing a lot of discourse around this movie, a lot of people talking about why it didn't work for them. This is a movie from MARVEL that made me cry like 5 times, introduced probably my favorite villain since thanos that stacks up with Killmonger, Hela, Loki, and all the other MCU greats, brought a ton of cultural representation for mesoamerican cultures and their history, looked better than the rest of phase 4 easily, and honored and respected the legacy of chadwick boseman. The discourse makes sense, but this movie really hit for me personally and i'm so so glad it turned out the way it did. Agree on cutting the ross stuff though, and with Riri i think they could've kept her in the movie as a smart character without the ironheart stuff and it would've worked a lot better
Fun fact: During the screening of this movie I attended, there were two moments when the audience was completely silent: when the Marvel intro with Chadwick played and during Shuri's funeral clothes burning on Haiti, when she just sat there. You could feel the respect and remembrance of him in those moments.
I was totally thinking what other mcu series this could have worked with. If by some horrible chance one of the leads died, which series has a strong enough supporting cast to cut out the "main" hero and still function this well. Like MAYBE guardians? If you count Pratt as the lead.
I was worried I was going to happen a problem with Leititia Wright, but the moment I saw Shuri on screen, I only saw Shuri. It was a fantastic performance, and I can’t call it anything but.
Martin Freeman was there for at least one good reason: to show the actual threat the world has on wakanda. The constant being on the verge of war of the USA made Namor's claims very true and believable, and the tension with USA was very interesting to me as a plot point.
ANGELA BASSETT is great but her character was annoying as fuck. She plays Internal Obstacle #1. BEST OF Phase 4? Then we're sincerely fucked moving forward
What I adore about Namor in this, which I think is a perfect translation from the comicbooks Namor, is the balance that he strikes between being a thing of divine beauty and a monstrous brute. Like on the one hand, he's elegant, handsome, precise, sophisticated and regal. On the other hand, he's strong, powerful, ruthless, viscous and threatening. This portrayal has that balance perfectly aligned with the comicbook version. That, to me, is at the heart of what I love about him in the comics and now this movie.
I don't agree with Leticia Wright's anti-vax stance at all, but I find it a bit much that people like Nando would be the first to jump on anyone who couldn't enjoy a movie because the actors in it hold extreme leftist views, but when someone has views found more typically on the right wing side, it ruins the movie.
Objectively speaking, my wing criticism is that they try to do too much in one movie, which is usually an issue with superhero movies. I think the introduction of iron heart and Namor was just too much for one movie, and they should’ve leaned into one or the other.
I know I'm late to this but I had the same feelings about Wright and difficulty separating her from the role and I wonder how much the controversy she sparked caused her storyline to include "Scientist aggressively seeks cure, takes chance to save lives"
Like when she doesn't want to be buried when she's taking the artificial herb because she might have a heart attack I half expected her to say something about "spike proteins"
I would say that the common theme of phase 4 is “expanding the MCU” – we have the Hex in WANDAVISION, the TVA in LOKI, “the multiverse”in LOKI, WHAT IF, SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME, & DR. STRANGE IN MOM, Ta-Lo in SHANG-CHI, the Eternals and Celestials in ETERNALS, the Duat in MOON KNIGHT, Omnipotent City, Eternity, & the Shadow Realm in THOR 4, MCU 4th Wall Breaks in SHE-HULK, and now Talocán in WAKANDA FOREVER.
Thank you Nando for being honest with everyone , I know it's difficult under marvels pressure
Riri Williams was the Mcguffin, so in that sense, she needed to be there
4:35 Nah Nando, keep that same energy. Don't go easy on the disdain for the actors actions outside of their work just because the chick who plays Janet is "a lead" not "the lead" Your racial bias is showing my guy.
So many actors spread misinformation. Separate the actor from the character. If she had a good performance, great! Why does the actors politics have to align with yours, no matter how dumb they can be? That shouldn’t affect your opinion.
I think the movie was great tbh and shuri as well. I could care less what she has to say about a vaccine lmfao
Namor isn’t Namor video coming
Marvel is becoming the side kick universe . I appreciate more batman gets to fight all his rogues. And I can only imagine how much better films could be if characters were still around.. like all these cap less cap movies and hulk villians not fighting the hulk what am I looking at..
I still feel Shang Chi is the best film Marvel has released since Endgame.
No Way Home is beautiful, but a 12 year old who’s never felt anything towards the nostalgic characters the movie brings to help it function properly, its just not that big for them besides “cool, Spiderman!”.
Wakanda Forever will be a long, stretched out product for a lot of us on 3rd or 4th viewing. Once you cry enough to let go of the tears for Chadwick, it’s a movie carried by great action and Namor. Nothing else works much besides maybe Nakia and Okoye. The rest feels forced.
Shang Chi delivers a great plot, great characters, humor that fits the script, potentially a top 5 maybe top 3 MCU villain, and every aspect of filmmaking just works: effects, action, editing, score, etc. It’s not perfect or as good as the top tier films of the franchise, but post-Endgame there’s nothing that works as good as Shang Chi does.
I was able to seperate letitia from shuri while i was watching the film, and i was incredibly emotionally invested.
however, as a trans person, what letitia did fucking hurt, and it makes me a bit sad to hear no apology or even acknowledgement from her
It was proven in court that OJ did not do it. It’s not alleged. I have no issue watching a film with him in it, mite it be due to my complexion perhaps?
Scarlet witch’s villain turn in mom was a complete waste of an entire character arc of Wanda vision.
Iron heart was terrible. Worse then America Chavez. And okoye getting superhero armour was a bad choice.
Hi, Nando. I'd really like to see a ONE SMALL CHANGE video about Wakanda Forever. So much, that I'm offering you my own pitch on it:
In my version, Riri Williams was discovered by a Wakandian Educational Center in US, and is rewarded with a academic extension in Shuri's lab in Wakanda, where she develops the vibranium radar, that drives the US millitary attention to Talocan. This small change provides:
– More interaction between these two black young geniuses (I'd like to see some contention before fellowship)
– A credible reason for Talocan quarrell with Wakanda and Namor demanding they handing over Riri to him
– A credible reason for Wakanda's queen and princess to feel that its their duty to protect the girl with their lives
– A more dramatic subaquactic rescue, with a well succeded female extraction team headed by Nakia, who nonetheless dies in the effort
– An opportunity for cutting off all that scenes in US and shortening the movie some 20 good minutes
What do you think?
Nope, in fact, coming back even in 15yrs…it won't hold up, likely ruin both movies in actual hindsight
Careful, celebs are even currently making, "sorry for pushing vacs now that the government is admitting they were wrong."
Nando's discord server is garbage, and the dude does not care about his community at all
Weren't you the one bashing other youtubers for not liking she Hulk for signalling something they don't like personally? Huh
I understand your point about this being a weird end for Phase Four, but all of the Phases (except One) had weird ending films.
It took me a minute to figure out that “the scientist“ and Riri Williams were the same person. Basically you could’ve just made the scientist a no-name person and it would’ve been just the same.
I'm a fairly hardcore Namor fan- he's one of my favorite Marvel comics characters and I thought his execution in this film was purely amazing
Gonna be honest Nando, I LITERALLY didn't see that coming as a reason to detract from this film.
And the reason behind that is that I unequivocally forgot that she did those things. I rarely am caught off guard by anything these days, especially on the internet… But man, you couldn't given me a million chances to guess that one.
And I still would've been lost…
Seriously there are still people who think there is a vaxx? Like you truly didn't realize it was the biggest money grab of all time and nothing else? Omfg smh
I'm so proud of Latitia Wright as a fellow Christian for standing by her conviction then delivering a truly monumental performance despite everything from sexism, racism to vacism trying to cancel her.
Letitia Wright did nothing wrong. Scary times we live in.
I think it's funny how people keep pointing out how this Namor is so different from the comics. There are like 5 classic Namor fans. Every Marvel fan I've ever met has thought Namor sucked. It's kinda a long going meme with marvel fans. This Namor is sooo much better than the comics, hands down.
U forgot abt Kro???
Great review. I actually didn't know about the controversy revolving around Letitia Wright. That is unfortunate. Not that I think it would have affected how much I enjoyed the film, but glad to have been ignorant to it anyways 😅 Sorry to hear that it seemed to mar your experience so much 😢
I've been seeing a lot of discourse around this movie, a lot of people talking about why it didn't work for them. This is a movie from MARVEL that made me cry like 5 times, introduced probably my favorite villain since thanos that stacks up with Killmonger, Hela, Loki, and all the other MCU greats, brought a ton of cultural representation for mesoamerican cultures and their history, looked better than the rest of phase 4 easily, and honored and respected the legacy of chadwick boseman. The discourse makes sense, but this movie really hit for me personally and i'm so so glad it turned out the way it did. Agree on cutting the ross stuff though, and with Riri i think they could've kept her in the movie as a smart character without the ironheart stuff and it would've worked a lot better
Fun fact: During the screening of this movie I attended, there were two moments when the audience was completely silent: when the Marvel intro with Chadwick played and during Shuri's funeral clothes burning on Haiti, when she just sat there. You could feel the respect and remembrance of him in those moments.
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I was totally thinking what other mcu series this could have worked with. If by some horrible chance one of the leads died, which series has a strong enough supporting cast to cut out the "main" hero and still function this well. Like MAYBE guardians? If you count Pratt as the lead.
I was worried I was going to happen a problem with Leititia Wright, but the moment I saw Shuri on screen, I only saw Shuri. It was a fantastic performance, and I can’t call it anything but.
I would have more of a problem seeing a Gay person in this movie like you, than an unvaxx person so I'm glad we agree on something.
Martin Freeman was there for at least one good reason: to show the actual threat the world has on wakanda. The constant being on the verge of war of the USA made Namor's claims very true and believable, and the tension with USA was very interesting to me as a plot point.
Tbh most actors are problematic- Rdj, Chris Pratt, all of the Dceu
ANGELA BASSETT is great but her character was annoying as fuck. She plays Internal Obstacle #1.
BEST OF Phase 4? Then we're sincerely fucked moving forward
What I adore about Namor in this, which I think is a perfect translation from the comicbooks Namor, is the balance that he strikes between being a thing of divine beauty and a monstrous brute. Like on the one hand, he's elegant, handsome, precise, sophisticated and regal. On the other hand, he's strong, powerful, ruthless, viscous and threatening. This portrayal has that balance perfectly aligned with the comicbook version. That, to me, is at the heart of what I love about him in the comics and now this movie.
I don't agree with Leticia Wright's anti-vax stance at all, but I find it a bit much that people like Nando would be the first to jump on anyone who couldn't enjoy a movie because the actors in it hold extreme leftist views, but when someone has views found more typically on the right wing side, it ruins the movie.
Objectively speaking, my wing criticism is that they try to do too much in one movie, which is usually an issue with superhero movies. I think the introduction of iron heart and Namor was just too much for one movie, and they should’ve leaned into one or the other.
I LOVED Black Panther 1…. Black Panther 2 was very "meh okay" it did some things very well and it had a massive shadow over it.
It was a good movie, but I did not love it.
I know I'm late to this but I had the same feelings about Wright and difficulty separating her from the role and I wonder how much the controversy she sparked caused her storyline to include "Scientist aggressively seeks cure, takes chance to save lives"
Like when she doesn't want to be buried when she's taking the artificial herb because she might have a heart attack I half expected her to say something about "spike proteins"
Sorry but this movie literally sucks