Project MMO Continues and the latest game to join this blind voyage into the unknown is Destiny 2. And our first day in that game showed some real issues with the new player experience… or should we say ‘returning’ player experience.
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So we didn't have time to film an intro before Mike left for the race… so I had to dip into the meme chest lel. In our latest foray into Project MMO we decided to play Destiny 2 – a game Mike played very briefly for a sponsored stream before – this happened to cause some issues as it highlighted some serious problems with Destiny's returning player experience. What are your thoughts on how Destiny educates new players and explains things?
If you want to enjoy Destiny 2, just stop caring about the story, turn brain off and shoot some baddies. You can't even play half the old story anyway. Most players just enjoy it as a sort of grinding daily quest simulator anyway. It's like Shadowlands retail WoW, get on that treadmill because FOMO.
Don't worry, not even full time destiny players know what the veil is
I've been playing for a few years, and even knowing how important the story missions are to progress the overall game, I really couldn't be bothered with the LightFall story. I've just been screwing around in the world for most of the time I'm in game.
"BiS" isn't really a thing in D2. There are guns that are very good of course and having them is going to help, but there's no one gun that is "must have" imo.
I agree, I returned a month or two ago.. I had no clue what I was doing and couldn't figure it out so I just quit.
Yep that’s Destiny for you. Whole expansion is shit and Bungie are just dragging things out to suck more money for their invested playerbase.
Destiny plays great and has some fun raids, but I'll never touch it again due to their garbage live service model. The game is a chore.
13:30 you can barely play half the witch queen content even if you paid for it
17:40 Nimbus uses They'Them pronouns
It does tell you whether or not an activity scales; if it says 1600 outright then the damage the enemies do and you deal will be scaled. If it specifies something like 1800, 1810 etc. then obviously you need to be at least of that level (in regards to most content). I do feel there needs to be more specificity when it comes to the minutia of scaling (as, especially when you get to Master and Grandmaster difficulty content, there are limits on your power level and eventually your power level stops mattering and they don't say that but), when it comes to endgame content like Raids and Dungeons…it's kind of obvious that maybe you shouldn't solo it? Like it's meant to be among the hardest things you can do in the game so why would you assume you can just jump in immediately and have the build / damage to kill these bosses? Yes it says 1-3 but that's just to say you can jump in solo, not that you should. All content that can be done by yourself says that but some common sense I feel should remedy that? Besides that I agree there are a lot of issues with the "returning" player experience and Lightfalls general quality…those critiques have been done to death.
So as someone who started destiny a year ago I can tell ya bungie ain't ever going to fix the new light issue because "well the community/content creators just do it better" which ok SURE! for someone as dumb as I am that helps a bit more BUT! they could make transitions and the like ALOT! easier..but they don't because again "content creators/community" which I mean they do a great job and the community is pretty good about helping people.
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For me, I think the only other game that makes one go "wtf is going on?" when returning or starting fresh is warframe.
I played destiny 2 when it first came out, and never did much else, I finally got back to it, and they literally throw you into a mountain of exposition without letting me play the expansion before.
I give up this game once I literally lost the first story, and I cant play it anymore… I simply give up, I dont want play a MMO game where I dont know WTF is happening.
As someone who's new to Destiny 2,played it for a good 90 hours (not much,I know) I feel they don't give a damn about new players. Felt very lost & trying to care about story is impossible (& asking vets I get redirected to x hours long videos explaining lore) & DLC up the wazoo which actually has REMOVED content in it (WTF?!). The overal experience was alright but honestly,I tapped out
Even as a returning player since the D1 beta, I'm confused too. Not sure where to start other than maxing out stasis, unlocking strand etc the really obvious stuff
Idk every time I go back to Destiny 2, I have a good time, but its so cluttered with DLCs, expansions, and side stories, plus changing the ENTIRE beginning and removing a funny character from the game, it just really doesnt hook me anymore and feels overwhelming even though the game is actually very simple. I feel like I'm better off waiting for D3, if that ever happens
Trying to get into Destiny 2 is s confusing and expensive mess.
But once you’re in it, it’s hard to leave
Why can’t I just buy Witchqueen and have every piece of content that was released between launch and the release of Lightfall?
Seriously. They could even make Witchqueen more expensive I don’t care. Just make it more simple. The more times I have to purchase stuff to play the game the more likely I am to decide it’s not worth it.
The same should apply to all previous and future expansions.
destiny's biggest issue is this stupid fucking living world bullshit, I cannot and have not ever been able to recommend it to anyone because of how fucked it is to join if you haven't been around and kept up since the VERY beginning, it's insanity, living world sounds cool on paper but in practice it is nothing but an enormous detriment.
I honestly really miss Destiny 1. It's really too bad you won't get to experience that; because I really think D1 had something really special going for it, especially in the last expansion.
I seriously wish they never had to vault any content to make room for new content. That is a MAJOR contributor to the experience being so poor.
I've been playing Destiny since D1 beta. I also have no real idea what the Veil is. Lightfall's story was severely lacking.
What happened to the flooded, infected studio?
My thoughts exactly. FUCK BUNGIE. I stopped playing before Forsaken and I can't play it anymore.
All those "excuses" about game size are ridiculous. Even Call Of Duty, yes this mindless session MMO shooter, implemented partial downloads where you can install and delete the campaign and multiplayer separately!
So Bungie, stop pretending you're doing an MMORPG. I suggest you delete all story and non-PvP areas entirely, this game has become a bot cesspool long ago anyway