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In this Mick West interview we dissect my UFO sighting as well as addressing the UFO UAP Wikipedia scandal. A group of Guerrilla sceptics have been editing accounts of UFO researchers and people were accusing Mick of having a sock puppet account called ‘Lucky Louie’. Matt Ford of The Good Trouble Show alongside Robert Heatherley broke the story during a live stream on The Good Trouble Show.
Part of my truth seeking journey is to try and determine fact from fiction in this chaotic UFO world and I personally believe that Mick West does a great job of pulling apart UAP videos. I don’t believe everything I hear in the world of UFO/UAP and people were telling me to listen to a sceptical view for some time. However, despite some UFO cases being solved, I believe there are some which are truly anomalous. I had a UFO sighting myself a few years ago which I cannot explain and Mick West helps me to try and gain a better understanding of it. Are there real UFO videos out there? Mick doesn’t seem to think so..
Mick is frustrated at the lack of concrete evidence in the UFO world but I believe things are about to change. The likes of whistleblower David Grusch and other insiders are coming forward this year in 2024 and I believe we will begin to learn that there really is something going on. In this Mick West Interview we push one another on the claims of people such as David Grusch, Ross Coulthart and we engage in a respectful and friendly debate. We may not agree on everything but I believe we can find common ground in the UFO world if we choose to communicate effectively.
Is UFO disclosure coming? Are NHI’s / aliens real? UAP’s are being seen by pilots around the world on a much more regular basis thanks to better reporting mechanisms being implemented. Enjoy this UFO podcast as myself and Mick West into the unknowns of UAP. A Sceptic and a believer can have a civil conversation.
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I spoke with Mick because it's important for my own truth seeking journey. We are all adults and can sculpt our own beliefs. People asked me for some time to have a sceptic on the show and they were right to say that. Thank you to everyone that has supported my Hiatus. Next week I speak with Lester Nare of UAP Caucus.
The emotional investment people have in the "alien space craft" meme, despite literally ZERO empirical evidence (I mean evidence of alien craft, SPECIFICALLY- Not just evidence of SOMETHING that we can't ID, in a blurry 8 second video) is nuts.
And the bizarre backwards-logic, that convinces believers that (somehow?!?) THEY are the ones being """open-minded""", by insisting upon ONLY ONE SPECIFIC possible explanation for UFOs, based on no empirical evidence at all… and it JUST HAPPENS to be the one specific explaination that's been relentlessly pushed for 70+ years by EVERY Hollywood studio, Fox, Disney, MGM, Universal, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, Marvel, DC, Mattel, Hasbro, via movies, TV, video games, comic books, toys, goddam breakfast cereal… but these guys are totally "free-thinkers" who have "broken the conditioning"…
I can buy that there's a decent possibility that (some percentage of) UFOs are anomalous… But the absolute LAST explanation I expect, is vehicles for aliens. It will either be something far more mundane, or far more bizarre and unexpected than that.
But the whole push for gov't "disclosure" is almost entirely a waste of time. It's amazing how many people are willing to suddenly START trusting the government as a super-duper -areliable and trustworthy source, as soon as they're being told exactly what they WANT to hear (ie, exactly when you should trust them LEAST…)
Guess we should apply the same logic in all court cases. No anecdotal evidence ergo “stories”
No, with how uninvolved people are. You expect Ross to just forego all rules
The Vatican has 53 miles of shelving in their archives
I continually come across a user called Hob Gadling, and find them to be the rudest, most dismissive and just extremely suspicious interventions. He/she is a bit like the opposite version of Mr Hancock
Mick is an awesome guest. I must let you know that your audio was not great, it came through as mono.
Mick West is respectful and healthily sceptical. But I get the sense that his not reading in-between the lines either on purpose or involuntarily due to genuine scepticism. Furthermore he has over looked a couple of things.
"Didn't specify which claims were urgent and credible". True it wasn't explicitly stated but there seems to be a deconstructing and isolating of Gruschs claims in the sense that he separates an alleged crash retrieval program from special access programs possessing uap material and NHI biologics. Gruschs investigation and 40 witness who are allegedly either former or currently in the program allegedly state that the crash retrieval programs purpose is to retrieve craft and biologics of a non human origin. Grusch said this under oath at a congressional hearing.
If the ICIG saying Gruschs claims are credible is referring to reprisals, why is an intelligence officer who was tasked with investigating UAP experiencing reprisals for trying to communicate his findings to other parts of the US government.
If these claims of a UAP/NHI crash retrieval program are all just convoluted misinterpreted fantastical anectodes then why and how was the ICIG's findings from their investigation enough to warrant a congressional hearing. Furthermore after the hearings why did classified meetings in a SCIF take place were members of congress were briefed on certain things which then led to the Schumer amendment.
The schumer amendment would of basically given more thourough oversight over funding going to government contractors as part of the allegations are that they are funding these programs with misappropriated funds from congress.
The amendment mentioned NHI 20 times and would of also forced private contractors to give up material information and biologics within 180 days to a congressional committee which would then decide what would be made public.
It was blocked by key politicians who are lobbied by the companies that allegedly have these materials and biologics.
This leads me to ask, if the amendment specifically cited material and biologics of an NHI origin are the things to be given up, and as some sceptics say that it's a compartmentalised program working on advanced tech of human origin, then what need would there be to block the bill which specifically states things of an NHI origin.
It just says something without saying something.
Anyway that's my little take on things. Mere stories and fantasies don't shake things up this much.
A self-appointed expert of classified subjects who is busy debunking whistleblowers from the classified world 😂😂😂
Silly sausage, listen to Mick. Bloke knows where a massive ufo resides but cant tell the world.. 😂😂😂😂
Deary me
Mick is a Hack. You are a hack for hosting him.
Annunaki reptilians created humans and control human sacrifice. Aliens control government religion and nukes
Put it on surround sound. It's slightly better
billions of high res mobile phones on the earth now and not a shred of credible evidence. just grainy blobs of images at distance given to us by the navy when they could easily be balloons, birds starlink or jet pipes of other aircraft. youd think the evidence would now be blatantly abundant – but complete opposite. nothing. no landings no aliens no low flying craft. just anecdote.
Great interview!
A few questions about David Grusch. Can anyone help?
Is it true that David Grusch met Corbell and Knapp at a UFO convention?
If it's true, what year was that.
Of the 40 first hand witnesses Grusch claimed to have, were they independently sourced from current people working for the Pentagon, Cia, JSAP and other acronyms, or were the 40 witnesses supplied by Corbell, Knapp and the rest of the UFO Cabal who've been peddling the same stories for 35 years without providing any proof?
Did Grusch have a longstanding interest in UFOs, and if so, why was he appointed to the job of investigating them. You'd want someone who is totally independent.
Regarding Ross Coulthart and his giant UFO there would have been dozens of people involved so no one would know who was the source.
Anytime anyone has Mick on ratings, go up.
Mick is great, he is right in the money!
Don’t bring your game down to far.
Mick is a well outspoken guy and makes a lot of sense but.. The argument "we only edit pages so they comply with Wikipedia policy" is a pretty weird argument. And saying (paraphrasing) "anything that is not verifiable backed up my MSM by definition is incorrect" is clearly showing the motivation is only on debunking for the sake of debunking, and that is precisely in a nutshell the problem people have with Micks sincerity.
Mick is rocking his Washington Commanders colors
58:00 Iridium flares have been well known by the amateur astronomer community for a long time. This is caused by the sun reflecting off of the Iridium satellites. 😉
Quit giving the mickey mouse west time and energy. He's paid to spread false information. He should be ignored. You should even use his name for anything. Just block anything he says. Thumbs down for having his name in the title. I won't watch a second of this video because his name is on it. Never pay him attention, and life is better!
Who the fuck are they to change Wiki..that’s illegal it’s not up to them
They so scawy of space mans…quick hide under the bed!!! Zzzzzzzzz……..
Great show lol! Mick fits right in……for a debunker in 1975.
I am so glad you're back Nathan 👏 and I applaud your patience in this interview, you are so insanely respectful.
I absolutely hated this pod/guest though. Far from an amazing person imo.
Looking forward to see what else you have in store for us though ❤
If only all believers of UFO had your attitude… most of them would see Mick's tool to recreate satellite positions and just say it's all fake or something like that, and that plane pilots aren't stupid so the stuff they saw in the sky surely wasn't a simple satellite but something else, etc etc