The Mesudiye, an ironclad of the Ottoman Navy, is today’s subject.
Read more about the ship here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ottoman-Steam-Navy-1828-1923/dp/1557506590
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Conways-Worlds-Fighting-Ships-1860-1905/dp/0851771335
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Naval-Warfare-1815-1914-History-ebook/dp/B0BL5HFCTC
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The Italians seem to be the masters at rebuilding a warship to comprehensively you'd be able to convince me it wasn't actually the same ship!
I love EVERY BIT of content from this era of shipbuilding. There is never enough of this! 🙂
Russia's second pacific squadron gets all the publicity, but the Ottoman navy is often overlooked for pre-WW1 naval shenanigans. More please!
I remember what was written in my school history (some 35 years ago at a Greek high school) about the naval part of the first Balkan war: "Greek navy led by the battleship (!) Georgios Averof won a superb victory at Limnos battle against the Ottoman navy lead by the battleships (!!) Mesudiye and Hamidiye". I remembered as a student to be really skeptical about the prospect of one battleship forcing two ones to retreat, even if Averof was a new ship. And then (35 yrs later) Drach informed us that Averof was a protected cruiser and the Ottoman ships were just disguised and modernized ironclads. Now this makes more sense… and thank you Drach for all these fascinating stories.
My uncle Margot brought one of these back after the European war. We would play cowboys and indians in the engine room. Father sold it for scrap in 1951.
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"We got broomsticks for deck guns!"
"Yeah… Maybe it'll scare em?"
Thanks Drach
While somewhat under utilised I think she had a respectable service, it was hardly the designers fault in the 1870's how different warfare in the 1910's would be. Although failing to install the main battery on a pre dreadnought is pretty stupid.
A ship of miserably life and then striking her enemies from the grave.
This is so sad, Alexa play Ceddin Deden
A thought.
How much can you reuild a ship (i.e. take it apart and put new stuff on it. before it becomes a new ship instead of a rebuild?
Can you do a review on the humaita river shipclass that the italians build for paraguay in the 1920?
What about a video on HMS Glory (Sister Ship of HMS Canopus)? My Grandfather served on her as a RM officer.
Me-su-su-sudiye, me-su-su-sudiye
Mesudiye might be one of the few warships that actually sank another warship (Bouvet) "after" being sunk itself!!
Drachinifel.. I heard the HMS Canopus did some service against the ottomans in WWI. I’m sure she has a great history to do a video on! 🎉
Ottoman ships were the most unfortunate of all: This one was well-designed, well-built, armed and engined, then left to go sour. But that rebuild has always impressed me. Some of the British and French ironclads were the recipients of impressive rebuilds, but nothing quite tops Mesudiye's.
A shame about that torpedoing.
I believe she was yet another Reed design: Have you done a video about the man yet?
That was an extensive rebuild
Wonder if it would have been faster and cheaper to just purchase a new ship?
Enable engagement with the turks. What could go wrong?
A naval engagement with the Turks. What could go wrong?
What an interesting career she had.
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That "refit" was like taking USS Constitution and turning it into USS Olympia……………..
Thank you.
I clicked on this guide solely because it was about a ship from outside Western Europe, North America, or Japan. I was not disappointed! More ships from smaller powers, please!
Drach: Poorer choices of name could be made, but you'd almost need deliberate effort.
US Navy: Should we name a ship John F. Kennedy?
Also US Navy: We'll take a shot at it.
That’s an impressive career for an ironclad
Naval budgets become more difficult once piracy isn't an option anymore.
Awesome! I love listening about Ottoman ships!
The town of Holbrook in New South Wales was named after Lt. Norman Holbrook, the commander of the B-11. If you're ever on the highway between Sydney and Melbourne, I reccomend that you pay it a visit. Aside from having a very good submarine museum, it boasts a truly estimable pie shop.
Honestly, the best thing Drach could do would be the battles on Lake Tanganyika during WWI. It's the sort of crazy ideas and weird ships that he'd love
Ancient transliteration as MESSOUDIEH might be more helpful for better pronounciation
Oh yeah. Been a while since I watched a guide.
I feel like this is gonna be a good one!
I love these Victorian era ships as everything is changing.
PHOENIX is the worst name for a vessel in my opinion. I have heard of four ships called the PHOENIX and all of them burned to the waterline (yes, that includes IJN TAIHO).
"Some shore bombardment that raised mostly dust and morale."🤣🤣