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You should react to the animated hobbit and lord of the rings movies.
Balin was the dwarf king in the coffin in Moria that the Friendship find in Lord of the Rings.
Just a little thing, but I'd like to see you react to the Honest Trailers & HISHE videos on Lotr & The Hobbit, they poke fun at some of the flaws in the films.
Best way I have to describe the difference…. is the scale of risk and reward. Frodo is trying to save ALL of Middle Earth where as Thorin is just trying to re-take one mountain. Still love the story for what it is tho.
I did read the book first (randomly found in my school library, which I look back on as highly fortuitous) and there is a LOT added to make a trilogy, but I ain't mad at it lol
The jewels that Thranduil wanted at the beginning were a gift of his wife. Those were only thing he wanted from the dwarves. Not gold.
About time i see that part after 8 years of waiting, maybe more.
well i'm not sure, it's been a really big while i didn't see a hobbit movie at home.
I find it very interesting, having seen Rings of Power, how Galadriel looks wet when she confronts Sauron. I don't know if that was intentional on Amazon's writers part.
5 armies: men, dwarves, elves, orcs & wargs
I agree with you on thorin making a promise under duress but thorin and company did cause a DRAGON to burn an entire town so the people in that town deserve some recompense
So Bards story seeming a bit off is because originally they were filming 2 hobbit movies and the first movie ended with the barrel chase scene and the second movie started with Bard. Which makes for an awkward slowdown/lore dump in the middle of a movie, but would have worked fine as a beginning. Same thing with the dwarf vs Smaug battle at the end of DOS, they had to invent an action set piece to end the film on a big note.
As to the books, they serve different audiences but both are exceptional.
As films of books, TWO issues need addressing: 1) what has been CHANGED, and 2) what has been ADDED [you could say I should have a third – what has been OMITTED – but I have no serious issues with omissions: no book has ever been adapted without omissions].
1) what has been CHANGED
In The Hobbit films, the only important changes are the splitting up of the group in Lake Town, and the way the last light of Durin's day is dealt with. In neither case is there any serious change of mood or character. I have no issue with these.
In LOTR the most serious change is the treatment of Faramir in The Two Towers. This involves what is in my view a totally unjustifiable change of character. What makes Faramir the excellent counterfoil to Boromir in the books is his ability to try to do what is right irrespective of the power of the ring and irrespective of what his father wants. Faramir therefore earns the reward of his eventual marriage to Eowyn. And his father's eventual realization that he loves Faramir is all the more terrible and poignant as a result. In the film, Faramir remains totally unaffected by the ring, but is instead blinded by his desire to do what his father wants, and always does what his father wants. Both brothers are as bad as each other in their different ways. Which lessens the power of Denethor's final realization. It may have been done for filmic reasons – but in my opinion that was a totally bad idea.
2) What has been added
Where do we start?
LOTR has very little that has been added – hardly suprisingly, given the amount of source material that needed slimming down to start with.
But the Hobbit is riddled with additions: Legolas, Tauriel, Radagast, Azog, all the detail of the business with Sauron, to name but five. Oh, and Sebastian…[but the earth eater comes from a mention by Tolkien so isn't an addition in my view..
The questions are – do these additions "fit" with the book's tone, and do they add to its power? I have to say that once you make the decision to include all the non-child-friendly bits like the battles that are of course glossed over in the originals, then most of these additions are actually helpful. Legolas is added to point up & explain the antagonism between himself and dwarves that is resolved in LOTR. Tauriel is added because otherwise there would not a be a single female character of any more than passing importance: and it enables a love triangle that – while wholly unimaginable in my view – is well worked out. The addition of Radagast is in my view inspired. Azog also is excellent as he is a foil in the story of Tauriel, Kili, & Legolas. The business with Sauron is very useful in explaining the otherwise inconsequential & largely unexplained absence of Gandalf at critical moments that would be acceptable in a children's book but not in an adult one, while providing an excellent intro for people moving on to LOTR.
"If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door."
Thranduil came for his stones, which he wanted to give to his wife. He gave them to the dwarves to make a necklace, but Thror did not return them. which is shown in the director's version of the first Film. And then Thranduil's wife died and now these stones have become special for him
After religiously watching the LOTR movies several times every year, I almost forgot that I am indeed one of the "Bookreaders". I prefer LOTR over the Hobbit. Partially because everything feels more grand as the stakes are much higher, and I just like the individuals characters as well as the more elaborate worldbuilding. But I might also be a bit biased, since I grew up with LOTR; my brother would read the Fellowship to me as a bedtime story when I was seven and I would then read the other books by myself. My mom later told me how much she loved reading the Hobbit and naturally, I decided to give it a go. I didn't enjoy it that much, as the writing style was so very different to LOTR (obviously). It was not drawn out, long-winded and serious enough for me lol.
Absolutely loved your reaction – as always – and can't wait for part 2 ! Battle of the Five Armies is my favourite one out of the trilogy…cause erm… I'm really, really obsessed with battle scenes and pretty elven kings (and smart orc generals).
I don’t think the movie clarifies who all the 5 armies are. Easy to figure out dwarves, elves, men, orcs, but the 5th? Having recently reread the book, the 5th army is WOLVES allied with the orcs (I actually would have guessed eagles. But they’re not included in the count). In the book the wolves are quite independent and not just the orcs’ trained attack “dogs”. The book sometimes uses the word “warg” but mostly “wolf”, and explains that evil wolves in the wild lands were called wargs.
As for Lake Town’s claim, don’t forget 1) the town equipped the dwarves with food, supplies, and boats to get to the mountain, 2) Thorin expressly offered them a share in return and 3) the Dwarves awoke the dragon and provoked him to destroy Lake Town. If that’s not worthy of winning a lawsuit in civil court for damages I don’t know what is.
As someone who generally prefers the books over the movies, I didn't mind that Tauriel or Legolas were in this trilogy. Frankly, I would've been disappointed if Legolas didn't at least make a cameo appearance, seeing that this is homeland. What ended up irking me about both him and Tauriel (apart from the ridiculous love triangle) was that they were given so much screen time – more so than Thranduil, who should have been the focal Elf of these movies. And I feel that his character was often portrayed in a more negative light in order to elevate Legolas & Tauriel by comparison. The writing for Thranduil overall was disappointing, especially since Lee Pace nails the visual aspect of an Elvenking perfectly! The actor and the character both deserved better.
Near the end, when Bilbo invited the dwarves to Bag End, one took him up on it. Balin. Frodo met him.
And no, most hobbits can not swim. There are exceptions.
Galadriel is the most powerful elf in the middle earth. After the War of the Ring (LofR) She totally destroyed Dul Guldor.
I haven't even gotten into the reaction yet, but I have to comment, I have played thousands of hours of Oblivion.. the music playing in the background during the intro absolutely has to be from the Oblivion OST 😂 and if it's not my goodness it's so similar. Now back to watching the reaction.
Actually Ed Sheeran became famous with his song for the Hobbit movies
Will you be watching the Rings of Power at some point?
Reading these books as a kid the Hobbit was a lot more fun read then Lord of the Rings. Reading now as an adult I get far more out of Lord of the Rings then the Hobbit. Lord of the Rings just has so much depth to it.
I cannot stand Tauriel. You hit the nail on the head with the romance, it does take away from Aragorn/Arwen and is so world breaking. Dwarves are generally not very romantic to begin with so them looking for a mate outside of Dwarves is also a bit breaking. I also don't like the cheesy love triangles at the best of times and find it more insulting to insert a female character just to be a love interest. If she were simply some elf with a talking/combat role then I wouldn't be as annoyed.
Smaug doesn’t have any capacity for heartbreak; the dragons, being created explicitly with evil spirits by Morgoth, can feign pity and honor, but always with malicious and manipulative ends.
Smaug has the second-most dialogue of the dragons in Tolkien’s lore, but first place goes to Glaurung, the first dragon and a truly cunning bastard. All the dragons have shared traits like obsessive greed and hatred towards every lesser race, but when you do get around to reading more middle-earth lore, you’ll find that all the named dragons are slain by mankind alone (never elves, dwarves, or others), making dragons almost exclusively men’s enemy and men’s responsibility to overthrow.
The Galadriel scene gives me goosebumps every time and Thandruil became one of my fav characters out of the whole series.
The helmet Gloin is wearing is the same one Gimli wears in “Lord of the Rings”.
as books go I much prefer LOTR, I read it first when I was about 10 (Primary 6 or so), but I didn't do the Hobbit till 2 years later in high school in 1st Year and I found it terribly childish and pathetic compared to LOTR and I hated every second of it.
1:02:55 – I think you answered your own question: Thorin lied, but he still made a bargain. And he made a bargain with a man who is honest. Who will hold him to it. The end.
This was supposed to be about 3 sentences, and ended up much longer somehow.
In terms of movies and main books, I love Lord of the Rings, particularly the first film. I've watched it every time I've been ill, alongside Studio Ghibli, since I was about 7. I still love the hobbit though. In my house, it's always a Christmas film.
In terms of actual middle earth stories though, I really love the silmarillon. It doesn't have an adaptation, and is essentially a collection of the history of the elves. It's a pretty hard read at first, but I love it anyways. In particular, I like the story of Beren and Luthien, a mortal man who fell in love with an elven princess. I believe Tolkien bases Luthien on his wife, and the names Beren and Luthien are actually on the grave of him and his wife.
You need to see Sherlock for BBC it's great