Today’s stream focuses on the basics of powerscaling. And Just having a live video on powerscaling in general responding to the chat.
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Awesome stream🔥
Everyone was so busy with live chat they forgot the regular comments,tell Roz to stop lying on my name ,if I intended to raid ataris server ,I would use an alternative account to do so ,I am not that kind of person,Roz is a liar,he's literally making up stuff
Tell him he can run all he wants but eventually he'll have to face his fears 😂
Anyways Atari great stream ❤️
Welp since most of my questions I tried bringing up didn't get answered during the stream I am going to further develop down here on the comment section.
Now first about the Elder Scrolls cosmology. I have known about the lore and cosmology for the Elder Scrolls series for a long time now and been following the powerscaling for the series and it is quite a mess sometimes when scaling the Et'Ada or "the original spirits" within the verse's creation myth. Now for awhile I was following the train of thought that the Daedric Princes or the Nine Divines were high multiversal to even hyperversal until I watched your channel especially about the cosmologies different natures of dimensions within said verses being infinitely greater or not and began rethinking alot of my based assumption scales for these verses. Including Elder Scrolls especially started seeing the rise of outerversal scaling for freaken Alduin and Akatosh started popping up.
Now first the Elder Scrolls cosmology is a interesting one as the way realities and dimensions work within it is very complicated. But first off for Et'Ada they normally dwell within planes of existence called Oblivion and Aetherius. The problem with Et'Ada are when they create actual matter or space and not extend themselves they lose their power in the process.
Lorkan tricked many of the Et'Ada into creating Mundas which housed Nirn and Mundas isn't a infinite sized universe or dimension. It actually has a limit to how far it stretches physically and it took many Et'Ada to actually put effort into creating the realm and as a result lost their original divine powers so their power was not infinite and came with a cost for creating a realm like Mundas and the planet Nirn.
The terminology and history of some of the Daedric Princes is very confusing and contradictory when researching at times but for the most part they are considered Et'Ada who did not participate in creating Mundas and most of them dwell in in planes of Oblivion so they have their full powers still for the most part with some exceptions.
Many people put Daedric Princes at like high complex multiversal or hyperversal but now after further review it seems most likely that is not the case the capabilities of these beings seems to be very limted despite how seemly vast their planes of Oblivion are they can't really travel to other interdimensional realms freely without difficulty and restrictions in doing so and they seem to be capable of having fears relatively.
So I thought about the Elder Scrolls cosmology for awhile and thought maybe dimensions within this verse are not infinitely greater and that Et'Ada and the Daedric Princes are perhaps not as impressive in AP or in Creative abilities as I once thought though their state of being is something they consider special.
Some Et'Ada like Akatosh or Auriel as his second name has some interesting unique feats even while in a weakened form after the Lorkan incident he still has some sorts of relative limits and restrictions on him. So I am no longer thinking the Et'Ada are as powerful as many in the Elder Scrolls community and many powerscalers have led themselves to assume especially with how limited and different the context of the higher dimensionality seems to be.
I knew that was the words I looking for when talking about Servants from Fate Nasuverse. They don't have multiversal AP or Durability stats but their state of existence is technically 5D. By atleast their verse's terms of dimensionality. Which may turn out to be not as impressive as say some like say the Daily Life of the Immortal King, Gurren Lagann, or the Dragon Ball verse's tiers of power.
It's kind of like the whole Accelerator vs Goku debates when people bring up CCC Gilgamesh 8th dimensiona (in his verse)l arguments into the table.
It maybe better to compare the Nasuverse to something less super extreme like Dragon Ball or a character like Wang Ling.
I have my doubts the best of them like Lostbelt Kings and Beasts could fight somebody like Jin Mori and Saint Seiya. As their best AP physical tier feats are relative to sun level.
Maybe I see them fighting Soul King Yhwach but that is a huge IF.
Hey atari how strong do you think naruto and sonic are?
One day I will join Atari's discord.
How would Esdeath compare to Fingolfin from The Silmarillion? Fingolfin fought and injured Morgoth seven times and was able to last very well against Morgoth's attacks which was likely mountain tier potency attacks.
I came late
I just came from school and this is what I needed
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Yo atari is right, people keep tossing up the term boundless and outer like its candy
1:07:20 oh I thought you meant Goku didn’t have infinite speed I was about to write an essay
An excellent analysis, in Marvel this is quite evident in several stories that show us that the characters and even eternity that is supposed if the totality of everything not is outerversal, because neither can survive outside of their universe, as soon as it comes out they are destroyed by the void. The same white void we see in Marvel, DC comics, dbs… Even Mxyzptlk is not strong because they exist in the 5° dimension more because of their super science and mechanics of how the physics of their world works that thanks to their scientific knowledge they do these amazing things like distort reality.
Awesome stream we should really be more careful in throwing around outerversal – Boundless beacuse 99% of fictional character's are not on that level realistically, anyway 🔥 stream can't wait for the next one.
Greats stream Atari keep up the great work ❤
Great stream
Another great stream like usual keep up the good work 👍💪