Because of our schedule, the success of this season is on a knife edge… if Minshew isn't successful over the first 4 games (1-3) then it will almost certainly already be too late to save the season. Expecting O'Connell to then come in and go 9-4 and sneak us into the playoffs is a huge ask.
I am happy that Mark Davis is looking to build stability. We all heard stories about the paranoia and factionalism that Al Davis fostered. Mar is fixing 30 years of chaos and going for JMD showed he wasn't afraid of going for the big name. AP shows a 180 degree of change, trying to find a coach that the players will play for. So he's not afraid of things.
When you're gauging a decision, look at who has the most to lose… that person is probably panicking and making a foolish decision because of the pressure.
Been a fan since 1965, seen the good and bad. I believe in this GM and coaching staff. Minshew gives us the best chance to start fast because we need his mobility against the 1st few teams that we play because they have good pass rushers
I like some things Gardner has done in the past with much less weapons. One thing is certain, if he doesn’t succeed with these weapons and this defense to back him up his career will be over.
Idk, going with a quarterback who can get you, what, 10 yards a game with his feet?, over a quarterback with a stronger more accurate arm just doesn’t sit well with me. Plus, if they have virtually the same stats last year, why not go with the quarterback who has more chemistry with the receivers? Just doesn’t make sense.
I was really pulling for Aidan, because we don't have a great record for drafting QB's who become franchise cornerstones (literally just Kenny Stabler and Derek Carr) But if it's Minshew, so be it, I just want a QB who can win games and get us where we want to be. I'm not hoping we're 4-5, 5-4 at the bye and Aidan gets the start. I'm all in for Minshew until he proves he's not the guy. Great point about taming the gunslinger aspect. That is the essence of developing players; honing their skills while eliminating bad habits and mistakes. You'd rather have a horse that has to be reined in than one you have to whip.
Just listen carefully to AP, Aidan might not be here next year. “Football” people look at stats not the what if’s. Gardner has been doing the same thing since he been in the league… not consistent, suspect decision making and throws hospital balls. Been a fan since birth..65’. Fact is EVERYONE was shocked by this choice because it doesn’t make good football sense.
Just listen carefully to AP, Aidan might not be here next year. “Football” people look at stats not the what if’s. Gardner has been doing the same thing since he been in the league… not consistent, suspect decision making and throws hospital balls. Been a fan since birth..65’. Fact is EVERYONE was shocked by this choice because it doesn’t make good football sense.
So Hondo what is the odds since yesterday there in Vegas that AP gets fired this season seeing how they decided to tank this season? When do you think Adams and Max get traded by week 6? And who else do you think goes as they go for the #1 pick and more draft picks?
I think AP made a bad decision on not starting the rookie AOC. Give the kid a real opportunity because last year he didn't. You really dont know what you got he has alot of upside radiers really got this wrong
I think everyone in that locker room knows more about AOC now. He was part of the worst offensive game in recent history last yr vs the vikings. He was also about 1 percent of the reason we beat the Chiefs last year. ZERO completions in the 2nd half. Had all offseason to work and get better. He didnt get much better. Even Tre Tucker is happy Gardner is the QB.
Gardner threw multiple passes that were almost picked. And gets handed the job. AOC stands tall in the pocket, Maybe holds the ball a little too long sometimes but that can be coached with footwork and pocket awareness.
I'm hopeful for a good season. But unless they make the playoffs, it would be hard to say this team is making progress. 20+ years without a playoff win. It's time. RN4L ☠️
Luke Getsy is terrible, and the fact that he schemed his play calling based things Aidan doesn't do well means he isn't a great coach. The great coaches scheme with the talent in which they have. For the record I NEVER wanted AP, and this is exactly why. Getsy hires If you have two different men, Aidan and Minshew and they both end up "sucking" thats on the COACHES
Every team, every year, ends in heartbreak. Except for one team Over the years, I've learned to appreciate a rollorcoaster ride of a season, as long as we're in the playoff hunt. A 9-8 season full of ups and downs is great for me. I think making it to the superbowl and losing, is almost as bad as not making the playoffs
Hondo. Don't start doing that bs. Don't start making excuses for the Raiders owner GM and coaches. Remember you're not a fan you only report facts and the facts are Raiders have sold the fans BS for the past 20+ years. They're always a defensive way a quarterback away a coach away. They knew they didn't have no quarterback and they went out and got Gardner minshew who is a backup quarterback on any other team in the NFL but the Raiders. And now you're on here trying to sell fans false hopes and the same BS we always hear. The Raiders can go out and get a quarterback next year BS. We should have got one this year last year we had won the year before and we let him go. Same BS every year.
I think the coaches are looking at who we're playing and who's the best matchup… Not using Both QBs situationally would be a mistake! We don't have a QB with all the skills but, we do have two combined that do…
Last great Raiders 1983 superbowl winners.
Ben rothlisberger is a raider commentator?! I didn't know that
“ letting his football ppl do their job”.
Mark selected these ppl for 20 seasons…….IF WE SUCK AGAIN ARE WE GOING TO FINALLY LOOK AT MARK DAVIS
MARK DAVIS IS MISUNDERSTOOD OR HE SUCKS AT HIS JOB…….after 20 years of sucking I think it’s the ladder
WHY HAVE WE BEEN TRASH FOR 20 years WE NEED ANSWERS……
HOW COMMITTED ARE YOU TO WINNING AFTER SUCKING FPR 20 years
WHAT IF MARK DAVIS ACTUALLY DO CARE
BUT FUCKING SUCKS AT HIS JOB……HOW MUCH CARING AFTER 20 years of loosing
SORYY NOT BUYING THAT BULLSHIT
He dosent mettle but he selects these ppl in the front office……if we suck this year Expect more because mark davis is not leaving
Wait we’re not rebuilding lol we think we can compete……..now I see why we sucked for 20 years……dilusional
Because of our schedule, the success of this season is on a knife edge… if Minshew isn't successful over the first 4 games (1-3) then it will almost certainly already be too late to save the season. Expecting O'Connell to then come in and go 9-4 and sneak us into the playoffs is a huge ask.
I am happy that Mark Davis is looking to build stability. We all heard stories about the paranoia and factionalism that Al Davis fostered. Mar is fixing 30 years of chaos and going for JMD showed he wasn't afraid of going for the big name. AP shows a 180 degree of change, trying to find a coach that the players will play for. So he's not afraid of things.
If they aren’t at least .500 in the first four games it honestly won’t matter who’s back there
You think we could keep DA and still somehow fit AR under the salary cap in 2025?!? Be serious – we're not the Saints!
When you're gauging a decision, look at who has the most to lose… that person is probably panicking and making a foolish decision because of the pressure.
Minshew has a QBR of 112 using 12 personnel
Been a fan since 1965, seen the good and bad. I believe in this GM and coaching staff. Minshew gives us the best chance to start fast because we need his mobility against the 1st few teams that we play because they have good pass rushers
Only the stupid arm chair fans are panicking Hondo. Unfortunately that more than 60% of your viewership.
I like some things Gardner has done in the past with much less weapons. One thing is certain, if he doesn’t succeed with these weapons and this defense to back him up his career will be over.
Luke Getsy will be the reason the Raiders have a losing season… Sincerely, a Bears fan
If Mark was soooo committed to winning, he woulda allowed them to fix the QB situation by any cost necessary
Neither if these quarterbacks are our future and will NOT win us a superbowl. Our quarterback is in the 2025 draft. Period
Idk, going with a quarterback who can get you, what, 10 yards a game with his feet?, over a quarterback with a stronger more accurate arm just doesn’t sit well with me. Plus, if they have virtually the same stats last year, why not go with the quarterback who has more chemistry with the receivers? Just doesn’t make sense.
My favorite episode so far!!! Concise, many gems dropped.
I was really pulling for Aidan, because we don't have a great record for drafting QB's who become franchise cornerstones (literally just Kenny Stabler and Derek Carr) But if it's Minshew, so be it, I just want a QB who can win games and get us where we want to be. I'm not hoping we're 4-5, 5-4 at the bye and Aidan gets the start. I'm all in for Minshew until he proves he's not the guy. Great point about taming the gunslinger aspect. That is the essence of developing players; honing their skills while eliminating bad habits and mistakes. You'd rather have a horse that has to be reined in than one you have to whip.
Just listen carefully to AP, Aidan might not be here next year. “Football” people look at stats not the what if’s. Gardner has been doing the same thing since he been in the league… not consistent, suspect decision making and throws hospital balls. Been a fan since birth..65’. Fact is EVERYONE was shocked by this choice because it doesn’t make good football sense.
Just listen carefully to AP, Aidan might not be here next year. “Football” people look at stats not the what if’s. Gardner has been doing the same thing since he been in the league… not consistent, suspect decision making and throws hospital balls. Been a fan since birth..65’. Fact is EVERYONE was shocked by this choice because it doesn’t make good football sense.
So Hondo what is the odds since yesterday there in Vegas that AP gets fired this season seeing how they decided to tank this season? When do you think Adams and Max get traded by week 6? And who else do you think goes as they go for the #1 pick and more draft picks?
I think AP made a bad decision on not starting the rookie AOC. Give the kid a real opportunity because last year he didn't. You really dont know what you got he has alot of upside radiers really got this wrong
ANYBODY IN VEGAS – AND WANTS TO GO TO PRACTICE TONIGHT…. HIT ME UP—. I HAVE 3 EXTRA TICKETS
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Why is it impressive to WANT to win? Ive seen very little to be excited about.
I think everyone in that locker room knows more about AOC now. He was part of the worst offensive game in recent history last yr vs the vikings. He was also about 1 percent of the reason we beat the Chiefs last year. ZERO completions in the 2nd half. Had all offseason to work and get better. He didnt get much better. Even Tre Tucker is happy Gardner is the QB.
Gardner threw multiple passes that were almost picked. And gets handed the job.
AOC stands tall in the pocket, Maybe holds the ball a little too long sometimes but that can be coached with footwork and pocket awareness.
We will start 2-0 hondo we won’t lose to Baltimore . I’m saying it now 😎
Jalen … ? who is he talking about – Jalen Guyton? He is not a weapon.
I'm hopeful for a good season. But unless they make the playoffs, it would be hard to say this team is making progress. 20+ years without a playoff win. It's time. RN4L ☠️
Luke Getsy is terrible, and the fact that he schemed his play calling based things Aidan doesn't do well means he isn't a great coach. The great coaches scheme with the talent in which they have. For the record I NEVER wanted AP, and this is exactly why. Getsy hires If you have two different men, Aidan and Minshew and they both end up "sucking" thats on the COACHES
You fans are still crying lol get over it and be a fan or don’t watch 😂
Y’all swear coach or someone gonna care about that opinion. Lol
Getsy was a panic hire, they didn’t want him at first
Every team, every year, ends in heartbreak. Except for one team
Over the years, I've learned to appreciate a rollorcoaster ride of a season, as long as we're in the playoff hunt. A 9-8 season full of ups and downs is great for me. I think making it to the superbowl and losing, is almost as bad as not making the playoffs
yes sir, I agree Mr Davis is determined just like when he interviewed mike shanahan years ago, fired greg papa, and hired mcdaniels! genius
Hondo. Don't start doing that bs. Don't start making excuses for the Raiders owner GM and coaches. Remember you're not a fan you only report facts and the facts are Raiders have sold the fans BS for the past 20+ years. They're always a defensive way a quarterback away a coach away. They knew they didn't have no quarterback and they went out and got Gardner minshew who is a backup quarterback on any other team in the NFL but the Raiders. And now you're on here trying to sell fans false hopes and the same BS we always hear. The Raiders can go out and get a quarterback next year BS. We should have got one this year last year we had won the year before and we let him go. Same BS every year.
I get so angry when people bad mouth Mark Davis…. He "is" the Raiders and is dedicated to doing his best to restore our team to greatness.
Thank you Hondo for commenting on that.
I think the coaches are looking at who we're playing and who's the best matchup… Not using Both QBs situationally would be a mistake! We don't have a QB with all the skills but, we do have two combined that do…
This guy is a straight insider. Got the inside info. Doesn't get much better and closer than that for Raider fans.
I am not sure Hondo is a good analyst, but there is no way Mr. Davis would want to choose between two mediocre quarterbacks!