Not really a popular opinion, but as fun to watch as Kurt was, he had a tendency to sacrifice psychology for high spots that I never really cared for (eg, him making Rey, and underdog babyface, tap behind the ref’s back before his WM22 title win had me furious at the time). Maybe with the bar being lowered by some of Dave’s recent ratings, this looks a lot more egregious, but otherwise I don’t think this is as controversial as people make it out to be.
I don't get why there's all this buzz about what Meltzer says about Kurt. Kurt is arguably the most technical wrestler to have ever stepped foot in a pro-wrestling ring. Who cares about what a journalist has to say? I know many nerdy neckbeards who know about wrestling as much as Meltzer does and I still don't take their opinion as liquid gold. Kurt has been there, he has done it with the top guys, in the top company at the best time of the business. He surpassed all the goats and main names of the Wrestling world. Yet again we ought to create all this chit chat for what? The opinion of a journalist who clearly states it's just an opinion.
Kurt Angle is a great wrestler and one of the greatest ever top 50 without a doubt, but 5 star matches are earned, and I agree with Dave Meltzer. His closest match probably to being 5 star is probably Wrestlemania 19 against Brock Lesnar, had Lesnar not botched the shooting star moonsault at the end, that match probably then gets a 5 star.
It's Dave's opinion, you can listen to it or not. Doesn't mean anything, just something you can look at. We all know Kurt has had at least half a dozen 5 star matches.
Let’s stop making Meltzer – a journalist, who has NEVER had any role even remotely close to being involved with being a wrestler – the pinnacle of wrestling opinions and match ratings. The guy is a fucking fraud and it’s disgusting that he has managed to literally steal a living WATCHING people work their ass off and say whether it’s good or not.
Kurt is a legend and his feuds were always awesome. His feud with Austin is one of my favorite wrestling memories of my childhood. Austin throwing his medals off the bridge the milk truck everything. Angle is underrated soooo FUCK MELTZER.
Five Star ratings from this other idiot is retarded matches are rated by an individual every single person has favorite matches Kurt and go in my opinion has had multiple five-star matches
Kurt Angle's entire career were 5 star matches and partially the reason why most modern wrestling seems like every match has to be a competitive 30 minute match with 80 kick outs at 2. That's not Kurt Angle's fault but it shows that he's an inspiration
I witnessed a tag team match it was John Cena and Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt angle and the undertaker and Kurt angle and the undertaker did a joke on it they did a recreation of Brock tapping to the ankle lock 😂 the way it was done was great because at that time Brock and Cena were the top heels at that time 😂 here's a list of all they match's and the legends I saw that night Chris Benoit d. A-Train Rey Mysterio and Ultimo Dragon d.Nunzio and Yoshihiro Tajiri The Worlds Greatest Tag Team d. Billy Kidman and Sho Funaki Rhyno d. Jamie Noble Los Guerreros d. the Basham Brothers The Big Show d. Matt Hardy V1.0 Torrie Wilson d. Sable, Nidia and Dawn Marie in a bikini contest Kurt Angle and the Undertaker d. Brock Lesnar and John Cena.
Kurt has some of the best matches and promos/skits/personas of all time lol. Literally like just his matches or just his mic related stuff would be goat worthy alone but we got to see both from one star 😂
Dave meltzer even said there’s no real criteria for a 5 star match so his opinion literally means dick he a joke never wrestled before then got the audacity to rate matches with no real criteria he’s a joke
I hope this recent trend of people bashing Meltzer continues and he loses his credibility. He's literally just a wrestling fan. Probably the biggest mark in the world. He clearly has bias towards his favorite promotions and wrestlers. His rating system is just his opinion and shouldn't mean a thing
I, along with many other fans think he had a lot of 5-star matches. One of my personal favorites that a lot of other people don't bring up as a 5 star match was against Shane at KOTR. Yeah, he's had even better matches, but I still love that match.
thats bullshit. hes had so many four star+ match ratings in his career that by career average meltzer still has rated him to be an all time great. people are obsessed with the full five stars when in reality, meltzer rating him ** 3/4 over and over again essentially means that he very much acknowledged his excellence.
Years ago, Angle vs. Styles on Impact. I forget the year, but it was in November. It was a CLASSIC.
It’s a damn lie
I don't know how the Samoa Joe match at Genesis wasn't 5 star.
I just rewatched Kurt be Benoit in a 30 min submission iron man match….imo that’s a 5 star match
Dave Meltzer don't know jack
His every match was upto top level,, i dont think there is anyone upto his level at this point of time in wwe
Kurt doesn't do enough gymnastics. If he won his gold medal in gymnastics then Dave would give him 12 stars
Not really a popular opinion, but as fun to watch as Kurt was, he had a tendency to sacrifice psychology for high spots that I never really cared for (eg, him making Rey, and underdog babyface, tap behind the ref’s back before his WM22 title win had me furious at the time). Maybe with the bar being lowered by some of Dave’s recent ratings, this looks a lot more egregious, but otherwise I don’t think this is as controversial as people make it out to be.
I don't get why there's all this buzz about what Meltzer says about Kurt.
Kurt is arguably the most technical wrestler to have ever stepped foot in a pro-wrestling ring.
Who cares about what a journalist has to say? I know many nerdy neckbeards who know about wrestling as much as Meltzer does and I still don't take their opinion as liquid gold.
Kurt has been there, he has done it with the top guys, in the top company at the best time of the business.
He surpassed all the goats and main names of the Wrestling world.
Yet again we ought to create all this chit chat for what? The opinion of a journalist who clearly states it's just an opinion.
Kurt could wrestle one match in Japan or AEW and he'd immediately have 3 5 star matches
Kurt Angle is a great wrestler and one of the greatest ever top 50 without a doubt, but 5 star matches are earned, and I agree with Dave Meltzer. His closest match probably to being 5 star is probably Wrestlemania 19 against Brock Lesnar, had Lesnar not botched the shooting star moonsault at the end, that match probably then gets a 5 star.
It's Dave's opinion, you can listen to it or not. Doesn't mean anything, just something you can look at. We all know Kurt has had at least half a dozen 5 star matches.
Dave is usually wrong so no biggie
The cage match where Angle moonsaulted off the top of the cage says otherwise..LoL
Let’s stop making Meltzer – a journalist, who has NEVER had any role even remotely close to being involved with being a wrestler – the pinnacle of wrestling opinions and match ratings. The guy is a fucking fraud and it’s disgusting that he has managed to literally steal a living WATCHING people work their ass off and say whether it’s good or not.
I don't hate or even dislike Meltzer but things like that totally invalidate his Star system
Kurt angle is 5 star simple
If there's anyone who doesn't need validation of their matches from Dave Meltzer, it's Kurt Angle.
Dave Meltzer is a dumbass, Kurt is 5 star. He is purely jealous of him.
Who cares what Meltzer says besides fanboys anyway. His opinion is worthless to me.
Dave's ratings are stupid and I'm still so confused why people treat the dude like a god.
Kurt is a legend and his feuds were always awesome. His feud with Austin is one of my favorite wrestling memories of my childhood. Austin throwing his medals off the bridge the milk truck everything. Angle is underrated soooo FUCK MELTZER.
Bullshit he has had a few great matches
Kurt is being generous.
Dave Meltzer doesn't know shit.
Kurt Angle embodies the Spirit of 5-star wrestling. Dave is just a hater.
Dave wouldn’t say that to perc angles face
Five Star ratings from this other idiot is retarded matches are rated by an individual every single person has favorite matches Kurt and go in my opinion has had multiple five-star matches
Meltzer, got the melt bit right.
Kurt angle is one of the goats, up there with Stone cold and The Rock
Kurt Angle's entire career were 5 star matches and partially the reason why most modern wrestling seems like every match has to be a competitive 30 minute match with 80 kick outs at 2. That's not Kurt Angle's fault but it shows that he's an inspiration
His match vs Shane McMahon KOTR should be 5 stars
Complete bs man. Angle has multiple.
That is CRAZY! His matches with Benoit, Michaels, Eddie! Angle match with the Undertaker was insane!
I witnessed a tag team match it was John Cena and Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt angle and the undertaker and Kurt angle and the undertaker did a joke on it they did a recreation of Brock tapping to the ankle lock 😂 the way it was done was great because at that time Brock and Cena were the top heels at that time 😂 here's a list of all they match's and the legends I saw that night Chris Benoit d. A-Train
Rey Mysterio and Ultimo Dragon d.Nunzio and Yoshihiro Tajiri
The Worlds Greatest Tag Team d. Billy Kidman and Sho Funaki
Rhyno d. Jamie Noble
Los Guerreros d. the Basham Brothers
The Big Show d. Matt Hardy V1.0
Torrie Wilson d. Sable, Nidia and Dawn Marie in a bikini contest
Kurt Angle and the Undertaker d. Brock Lesnar and John Cena.
Kurt was always so good but the wrestling machine era was my favourite. Beast
Kurt shits turds that have better matches with the toilet bowl than some of the trash Dave has given five stars to.
Kurt has some of the best matches and promos/skits/personas of all time lol. Literally like just his matches or just his mic related stuff would be goat worthy alone but we got to see both from one star 😂
Dave meltzer even said there’s no real criteria for a 5 star match so his opinion literally means dick he a joke never wrestled before then got the audacity to rate matches with no real criteria he’s a joke
I hope this recent trend of people bashing Meltzer continues and he loses his credibility. He's literally just a wrestling fan. Probably the biggest mark in the world. He clearly has bias towards his favorite promotions and wrestlers. His rating system is just his opinion and shouldn't mean a thing
I, along with many other fans think he had a lot of 5-star matches. One of my personal favorites that a lot of other people don't bring up as a 5 star match was against Shane at KOTR. Yeah, he's had even better matches, but I still love that match.
I mean that right there proves how much meltzers opinion is worth. Kurt Angle…..not a 5 star match….Kurt….Angle.
thats bullshit. hes had so many four star+ match ratings in his career that by career average meltzer still has rated him to be an all time great. people are obsessed with the full five stars when in reality, meltzer rating him ** 3/4 over and over again essentially means that he very much acknowledged his excellence.
Meltzer is an idiot lol