Asmongold Reacts to WoW Boosting: “Is THIS How RMT & Boosting Should Be SOLVED?” by Bellular Clips
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I prefer to be carted through content. See, generals don't swing a rifle or sword.. We simply bask in the glory. Why should I sweat when I can drink iced tea and count my money. Seriously.
No idea how wow token removal will help. Its just 1 day of strat farming or 5 hours of sp farm that gets you money to buy token. Asmon should check prices. Also rmt players play classic because of higher prices for gold, nobody plays a dead retail to make money
The season of Asmon WoW copium is back.
All PVP boosting should be banned. Tokens removed. Fixed. They won't do it, so they clearly don't care.
Me not understanding what GDKP or RMT are but still being interested in the topic: 🙃
mcconnel ftw at the end there
Lmao Mcoolawl “are we playing wow? Fuuck” killed me hahah
I quit wow because I was tired of boosters.
For a sandbox like Wrath, especially on a server already saturated with gdkp, it will very likely begin to spell the end for Wrath. After experiencing this 3 x now between Classic, Classic TBC, and SoM, from my experience, this is how things pan out… the economy is stable UNTIL GDKP is introduced. After that, the economy becomes over saturated with gold. It doesn't matter if you do gdkp or not every commodity purchasable from low lvl mats to raid consumes inflates, and it inflates so much so, that unless you are farming to supply gdkp you cannot overcome the cost delta from what it was before. The problem is the bots. Bots yield gold that sits in a reservoir that trickles out to the player base until the first GDKP starts, then there is an monumental gush of gold into the economy, this starts the shock b/c the prices will go into massive flux untill a few weeks later SO MUCH GOLD has entered the economy and continues to saturate the economy that unless you are getting a slice from the gdkp community, you are forced to enslave yourself to supplying those gdkp players at multiple x the time sink just to have enough consume money for your own raids. Now, naturally, if you are only farming your own consumes this gets moderated and fixed but BUT any consumes u must buy b/c u dont have multiple toons to span every profession, every piece you have to buy becomes a MASSIVE sink on yourself, it literally becomes a vicious cycle of requiring alts to carry gdkp's so you can funnel gold to mains and everyone knows that 95% of buyers are not legitimate that all that gold is dirty from RMT SOMEWHERE along the way. It's actually disgusting, thats why I say the same thing, from the time GDKP enters the scene the game turns from fun to a job of being able to support even yourself unless you can find a way to tap into the resevoir of gold that is funneling into the RMT players. That means you're providing a service to the RMT players OR u are supplying a good or service to people carrying RMT players and each step away from the RMT player you get the time investment to making that gold becomes infinitely more in order to support yourself. That's the reality.
How are you supposed to learn a raid if no one will let you try
Wow is a Falling star.
8:24, I'm curious when has this man has ever done a GDKP besides a year ago?
Or is this one of his impulsive lies?
every boss has like 12 mechanics you have to remember. even if i still played wow i wouldn't wanna clear those raids legitimately
If WoW didn't have the WoW token I'd probably try the game out. Or if there is an ironman mode equivalent in WoW. (im an osrs player) having buyable bonds or tokens in game completely devalues farming for gear oneself. because you'd have to be an idiot to farm something for hours on end when you could just stay an extra 15 minutes or so at irl job and swipe a credit card for it.
You think they will branch out from Classic and make new expansions on different canon than current retail? Might be a way to get a fresh fucking start on the game honestly.
Gdkp isn't a big deal don't like it don't do it simple. Wanna do a raid and complete it ? Git gud don't expect a carry form the raid yourself and don't take someone you think isn't capable of doing the content why should you waste your time dragging someone that is shit thru stuff they don't have the skills to do it. Yea it sucks not being able to get the shit completed without having decent people but you go thru a boss any asshole who stands in fire and does kick em
"There has never been a crime in the history of humanity that was prevented by a law."
You would literally be dead right now if that were true.
GDKP's are both a disease AND a symptom. GDKP's go directly against the spirit of the game just like mages powerleveling you is. Like you said, if it was on a small scale no one would give a shit but that genie has been taken out of its bottle. The only way to curb it is to snuff it out – it's why pservers ban it.
Spot the difference between the two: You pay a character to power level you through content and you are rewarded with exp until you finally hit level cap and never have to level on that character again vs You get carried through content and pay a character to buy gear from said content until you have all the gear you need… and do it again on the next patch… then the next patch… then the next patch…
Yeah, GDKP's are worse than dungeon boosting. Anyone saying it isn't is deceiving themselves. Unironically trivializes the end-game experience. Why spend hundreds of hours farming gold when you can spend 35 dollars to buy epic flying? Why prog through raids when you can just pay for a carry?
Asmon has a twisted view on GDKP's because he is not a normal player – he is a min/maxing goal driven player and part of the same people who created and perpetuated GDKP's. It's like asking a drug addict their view on drugs
"You want them to ban GDKP but they can't even ban RMT"
They can't ban RMT because it's done via third party. GDKP are entirely within game and are EXTREMELY easy to figure out even if people are using discord because you'll have people trading money for gear and if they stop doing that and do trust trades GDKP's will naturally crawl to a halt which is significantly better than having them be rampant.
Furthermore is they can declare Dungeon boosting to be bad and fucking nuke that shit they can do the same to GDKP's because GDKP's are just boosting in raids except when the level cap increases it's once per expansion but raids are 2-3 times per.
I don't see how Asmon doesn't see a problem of players in a min/maxing goal driven community gravitating to the min/maxing goal driven raid loot system. It's a brain drain of sorts from normal guilds. Guilds are, now more than ever, viewed as a mid-way point into getting into GDKP guilds because they tend to have better players by virtue of being a carry system. I was in a guild who lost 2 people to a GDKP guild in TBC and it was a massive fucking blow for us because they were class leaders and had the best attendance and we didn't just lose them – they were poached by being promised a flat amount of gold for their first 3 runs. How the fuck is a guild supposed to compete with that if they are not themselves a GDKP guild? They can't – they have to rely on trust and community and loyalty but, in a min/max goal driven player those things mean fucking nothing.
Asmon is in a house that's on fire going "everything is fine" because he can't see the fire, only the smoke
Asmon, you can't play the game independently of GDKP's because they influence the rest of the end-game raiding scene just like how dungeon boosting warped the leveling experience for everyone.
GDKP's are an insular community/bubble and they poach people outside the community to be carries (raid lockouts) or buyers (also raid lockouts). The buyers might eventually leave the bubble but once they get BIS gear why would they join some random guild to prog with or raid with? Chances are they'll want to join a GDKP guild as a carry because it provides the most optimal raid group to parse with. These GDKP guild also poach other top performers in other guilds by offering them gold – something that no guild can compete with at all even if they take donations.
So the non-GDKP community will dip their toes into the GDKP community but the opposite is much less likely to happen. The carries in of themselves will NEVER do non-GDKP content because their characters will always have a raid lockout and if they're good enough to be in a GDKP guild as a carry their alts will also use their lockout in GDKP guilds. The end result is less people for regular guilds to recruit from and a loom threat of getting your players poached.
If this happened with a regular guild it'd be fine but the problem is that GDKP's have a vast reserve of gold they can offer to potential players since that's their main draw – monetizing loot.
6:17 i think he misspoke. He means botters, gold farmers, and boosting andys. When WOTLK comes out, i'm just gonna fly around sholozar mining until im full raid bis cause they arent gonna stop me and they dont care about botting so maybe ill have 3-4 guys going at once XD. Keep leaving in reasons to bot and be degen itll work out 100% for the expac itll work out just fine.
If the game wasn't made to be so grindy, people wouldn't have had to buy wwo tokens, trust me, if i have very little time to play the game because i work a lot, wtf do you think i need to play the game in a reasonable timeline?
A fucking wow token.
wy 24h ban, give them 1 big warning display then perma ban them ez
Weird to me how RMT is accepted now. Back when I played the game like it was my primary job we used to laugh and ostracise people we caught buying gold from farmers.
I only gdkp as a carry and use it to pay for my main raid consumes/enchants/gems
GDKP is socialism and the WoW token is capitalism lmfao
If the Mythic guilds need money then there are 1000´s of players that are already playing the AH game. Bring in some of them to your guild if u need a stable source of gold. I imagen there are alot of ppl that would join just to have the ability to brag and say that i am part of a world first guild. I would be supriced if they werent already doing this so just step up the amount. Hell mythic guilds are already spending more gold then they actually have and are borrowing gold from other guilds during the world first race so its not like it would be a big change for them anyway.
Taking the FF14 approsh and banning advert would be a good thing but with no GM´s anymore to look out for it how would it really be that effective anyway. I suppose u dont need to catch them on the spot but having GM´s would make it alot more effective.
19:58 same can be said about RDF, if you dont like it dont use it.
McConnell should play a Templar in ESO, not a nurse-maid in Lost Ark.
IP BAN the battlenet account, if the battlenet account becomes active again during the ban (VPN or w/e) BAN the battlenet account for 6 months for ban evasion.
Another shit take by asmon. Gdkp encourages gold buying, thats the only reason you need to ban it. It provides nothing but a way for gold buyers to spend their gold. Raiders dont need gold unless they are planning to buy gear from gdkps.
Getting into raids was easy for me. With or without achieves its just like oh can you do mechanics? Yes I can press frost bolt for 30 minutes
people who play wow are getting older every year, and they now have more money than time. boosting only affects those who boost, if you want to spend time instead go ahead
Stormrage alliance trade is constantly spammed with WTS ads
The fact boosting has remained a topic this long means Blizzard doesn't give a shit.
Dude freaking out about how they need to regulate GDKP needs to keep his socialist ideals out of the game
My 2nd account got banned for using a levelling service back during TBC lol. Glad I used a second account to have a char levelled.
I think the easiest way to look at the whole issue is this (and I have no real issue with boosting here and there, just at the sheer amount of it occurring):
1. Blizzard creates difficult content (above the ability of MOST players)
2. Blizzard attaches desirable mounts etc. to such content
3. FOMO sets in as these rewards are time sensitive
4. High end players are willing to boost players through the content in order to obtain the rewards
5. Players purchase WoW tokens to pay for the boosting service
Thus, Blizzard is making hamburgers and "not-asking" the high end players to sell those hamburgers to the rest of the playerbase
RMT gold whether by Wow-Token or 3rd party is the same and effectively could be thought of as Counterfeit gold. Paying for the service of an AOTC carry or whatever you want with in-game EARNED gold is a great thing and should be allowed, but paying for it with this "counterfeit" Gold is the problem. the WOW token needs to be removed and TOS enforcement on using 3rd party sites for gold needs to be a huge priority.
i say it again. they just need to ban 1 milion accounts of booster and get rid of them
if someone gets reported for boost or adver after getting 2 reports bam they lose their account.
just ban like ;erl;el;efe;'fle;'fle';flef'lef'elfe;'fle;f'lef'lef'lefe
ban all of them every single day
RMT does not exist because of GDKP. GDKP is not a symptom of RMT, GDKP was the answer to RMT by the players who didn't buy gold. In Classic, the servers were already heavily botted out, the economy was already ruined because of bot's and RMT. GDKP was our answer to be able to afford consumables and items off of AH since the prices were so high due to the inflation caused by RMT. If it were not for GDKP's I would have had to solo grind for days to be able to afford the consumes I needed. Instead I ran in GDKPs for ZG, MC, BWL, AQ40. So that I, as a player who did not buy gold, could raid each week without having to kill myself farming to keep up with bots and RMT.
We didn't do GDKPs until we already smashed through BWL, after that it was damn near mandatory, so our guild started running GDKPs in raids we didn't need anymore so we could cash in on players who bought gold so that we could progress. Saying GDKPs cause RMT, or are the symptom of it is like saying legalizing drugs causes people to use drugs. No man, people are already using drugs. legalizing drugs just means that we as a society get to benefit from the sale of them in the form of taxes (which I'm equating to GDKPs). GDKPs taxed the gold buyers by giving us their gold, that we share with the group that ran the raid, so that we could benefit from an already unfair situation.
The content is too hard man. I played WoW beta to Mists of Pandaria. 10 man normal raids w/ recommended item lvl in MoP were not easy to complete, even with everyone knowing the fight. It wasn't worth the time trying with friends that couldn't muscle the encounter with gear attainable only from higher raids. They need to make it easier to progress up to where you want to be without getting carried. I quit since I couldn't play the way I wanted to play, which was playing for 15-20 hrs a week. I had to do dailies plus be on for a specific time 5hrs a week for a raid I might not get in. If you skipped raiding you never got anywhere. So I mostly PvP'd cuz you could play that and progress just by playing. There were a lot "if's" that you had to fit to access endgame PvE content.