'If you want change, don't do that': Labor MP's 'terrible' Defence mistake revealed



The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan talks about the “terrible” mistakes made by key Labor figures regarding Defence.

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32 thoughts on “'If you want change, don't do that': Labor MP's 'terrible' Defence mistake revealed”

  1. 1:39
    I hate Labor

    But it is not truthful or accurate to say: “and no submarine in prospect even”

    It has been announced publicly that “In the early 2030’s, Australia will acquire its first of three Virginia class submarines”

    That would be called a submarine in prospect in anyone’s definition!!!

    Why didn’t the host correct him on this falsehood?

    Why can’t anyone just tell the truth?
    How incompetent and allergic to honesty has everyone become???

    This is pathetic. Don’t speak unless you know. Don’t say it unless it’s true.

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  2. Indecision by ADF leadership seems to be a common occurrence across all services….not just at the higher level. They're too scared to make a decision because they just want to proceed to the next rank / political position as smoothly as possible. No balls. You're allowed to make a mistake…just decide instead of wasting years…and years…

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  3. Yet more BS from Sheridan. He gives Industry a pass and slams the ADO execs, but a lot of the projects that have fallen over did so because Industry screwed it up. They promise the world to get into contract and then can't deliver. Recent examples include underbidding to win the work then playing silly buggers once the contract was signed to get more money – basically blackmailing Defence because the project was too big to fail so Defence would have to pay more. Other examples include inability to overcome THEIR unforeseen technical difficulties and poor workmanship. Also unforeseen delays and an unwillingness to spend more money (thereby sacrificing profit) to fix it! So yet again, Sheridan GET'S IT WRONG!!!

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  4. Shove your corvettes, the US implemented a concept of the Littoral combat ship, resulting in to different designs put into construction, the freedom class and the Independence class. Because of failures the independence class has been put onto mine sweeper duties due to cracks in the hull due to high speeds. While there are complaints about the freedom class that had rather large issues itself with under investment in key components. Defence is scrapping these hulls, while decision makers want them to keep getting built, its a matter of lobbying.

    Here we have the same thing, we have an investment into a media company, with a spokes person to promote corvette class ships that are not fit for purpose. More so in Australian waters that are literally all blue water. Why would you have costal ships, with limited attack range, attack power and that is stuck in shallow water.

    The Navy needs to be blue water, and it needs to be networked to suppose intelligence collecting so wolf packs can be vectored towards enemy carrier fleets. This requires the use of ships with good sensors, an ability to defend instead while alone and many other capabilities that is only offered by the Frigate platform.

    Sure these are not fleet vessels, defined to a single role like a destroyer, or a carrier, but it would be stupid for Australia to start a surface fleet arms race with the likes of China.
    Just like it would be pointless to invest in ships that you can't station as network and sensor nodes in the middle of the ocean and that has to keep close to shore where 50% of your sensors are pointing at land.

    There is no mistake here, if you want to sell Corvettes go talk to Italy or France or European countries that operate in coastal water. We require a blue water navy, one with increased sensor and attack range so hit and run attacks can be used against large surface fleets and against a much larger enemy navy. Its pretty much that simple, and a corvette doesn't offer the attack range or sensor capability to engage the enemy before it is sunk with little to no effort because its small size comes with massive reductions in capability, to the point a $2000 drone could sink it.

    Frigate upgrades and acquisitions are an ongoing process.

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  5. The libs completely dropped the ball on defence many, many years ago..ya cant have it both ways miss credlin, labor is trying to het the defence agenda sorted after years upon years of neglect, but, what now because all around the globe the shit has hit the fan your blaming labor for the debarcle the last four liberal prime ministers f.cked up…short bloody memories you mob

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  6. Thanks Greg Labour is full of smoke and mirrors con job on Australians. They are playing games with Australians. It is about the history book I was the government of Australia. Total disaster they will not be out fighting an invader that will be done by someone else .

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