Ichigo (All forms/Arc) vs. Saitama #whoisstrongest #whoisstronger #animedebate #shorts #bleach #opm

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  6. Ichigo's strength level is multi-star level to solar-system level because he broke Aizen's Black Coffin which distorts space-time in a manner akin to a black hole.

    Aizen is also of a similar level because of destroying The Cleaner in the Dangai. With the Dangai being a basically a wormhole that the Cleaner's job is to keep it (the wormhole) from collapsing on itself, destroying the Cleaner also puts him at similar level.

    Ulquiorra is also able to cut through dimensions.

    Ichigo killing Yhwach also means he is capable of killing immortal characters (like Kaguya and her ilk), as Yhwach was able to rewrite futures where he'd died. You may account the arrow for allowing Ichigo to kill Yhwach, but the arrow's effect only lasts for an instant, and Uryu thus noted that the arrow was useless.

    SPEED

    In the infamous Ichigo vs Byakuya battle, Ichigo cut through all of Byakuya's Senbon Zakura petals.

    Senbon Zakura contains billions of the blades (the plural obviously denotes multiple billions, but in this case it's lowballed to 2 billion).

    The official guidebook states that Ichigo and Byakuya were moving at lightning speeds, but this was before Byakuya increased the speed of the petals.

    Quote, "Like lightning, Ichigo pressures Byakuya with god-like speed and attacks him at close range!"

    In the anime, Byakuya states that he increased the petal speeds by 2x. But in the manga, he says he increased it 3-fold (or the speed of lightning to the power of 3 times.)

    In the end, cutting through all of these petals this gives Ichigo a speed of over 3 quadrillions (3e+16) times faster than the speed of light.

    This isn't an outlier, as the characters get faster over the course of the series. Ulquiorra was able to deflect Uryu's Licht Regen (Light Rain), which covered a huge amount of space with millions to billions of lightspeed arrows.

    Also Ulquiorra has a move called the Black Light(Cero Oscuras) which is instantaneous, yet Ichigo was able to block at point blank range.

    Also, Ichigo in full hollow mode was able to react and counter the Black Cero with a blast of his own, then speed behind Ulquiorra (a person fast enough to block Uryu's lightspeed arrows) to rip his arm off casually.

    And again, Aizen's Black Coffin. In a black hole, time basically "stops". So, faster than instant speeds? No.

    F A S T E R T H A N T I M E.

    And then he gets FASTER, from when he fought Yhwach. Due to him being able to react to every event that could ever happen across an infinite number of future timelines at the same time, in an instant and change them as he desires.

    Basically, Ichigo's speed is Omniprescence.

    DURABILITY

    Again, Aizen's Black Coffin. black holes have the power to crush the earth into a golfball, and Ichigo withstood it.

    Also, he's tanked blows from Ulquiorra who can slice through dimensions, and could fight Yhwach, who had enough power to destroy the human realm and soul society. Two universes.

    ENERGY

    Ichigo destroyed the fullbringer Yukio's dimension by just going Bankai. These dimensions are pockets of infinite space/time, thus Ichigo destroyed an entire plane of reality. (Note: I could not find a reference to how large Yukio's dimensions were in the manga)

    It's not an outlier, because Menos Grandes can shoot beams of light through hollow realm into the soul society to retrieve Aizen,

    Ichigo shot through the dimensional barriers from Hueco Mundo to Los Noches

    Ichigo also shot through the Gates of Hell [(Hellverse movie is canon?)] (http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:78840)

    Also, when Ichigo turned into Mugetsu, he became literally Getsuga Tensho; the "Piercer of Heaven."

    And again, his power is onpar with Yhwach who can destroy two universes.

    So there you have it, Omnipresent, universal, dimension destroying, immortal killing Ichigo. Bullshit or nah?

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  13. Weve never actually seen saitama with 100% of his power im not sure who would win this but based off what ive seen you might be right. Saitama will grow as a character and i camt wait to see how far these both grow

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  22. That's right, no matter how strong Saitama is, if he doesn't have Reiatsu, Ichigo's Reiatsu will blow his soul away.And Reiatsu can nullify the opponent's attacks and abilities, meaning that all of Saitama's attacks are nullified by Reiatsu.

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  40. Are you stupid or are you doing it on purpose? Saitama destroys planets 11 times larger than Earth with a sneeze. The guy survives in space yet he's a human. He can also destroy parallel dimensions with his punches, he lifts moons, he can perfectly copy powers and axes he's only seen once like when he went back in time facing Cosmic Garou. If a guy has the same level as him in combat, the guy will still evolve much faster. He makes big holes in the universe, he jumps from the moon to the earth in a second. He has lots of abilities

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  42. Fax ICHIGO speed is he can travel to infinite outerversal and aizen is boundless can kill everyone in fiction and that old ywatch solos reality 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓.

    First pass PLANETARY

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