I HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS!!! Reacting to "Overanalyzing Avatar: The Painted Lady"

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25 thoughts on “I HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS!!! Reacting to "Overanalyzing Avatar: The Painted Lady"”

  7. Well I’m actually not going to analyze anything for this episode. I’ll cover VERY minor points but there are so few points I can counter other than they cleaned the water for the crew the same way they cleaned the river, and I’m REALLY gung-ho on environmental stuff from helping clean polluted areas as a Boy Scout. And I feel REALLY passionately about it. So I’m just happy to see that the Fire Nation being so forging heavy and military centric would have areas like this. And the consequences for such circumstances. I figured such places SHOULD be seen in this show and covered eventually. But this is also…NOT the best way to cover it.

    That being said, this episode deserves to be on the bottom of the list. I still think the Great Divide is worse and it suffers a few problems the same. Like for instance the seeing solutions to make an episode work better that the writers didn’t see. Like the Dock joke. But on a less serious scale than having Katara and Sokka come to terms with how their sibling functions by spending time with the clan that DOESN’T reinforce their thinking, and both realizing they truly are family at the end of the day by having Aang NOT lie about the two clans. THAT is a whole episode arc that could’ve been handled much better.

    This episode is a very blah episode. The ONLY thing I can outright disagree on OA for is that I think the Great Divide had better opportunity being seriously squandered making it worse. But this episode I have to admit is probably my #2 for worst. I’ve come to grips with the Headband and the Serpent’s Pass, so that makes 2 episodes I can comfortably say just…are wasted potential. And that’s a shame considering what the rest of the show does. But I also feel like I’m nitpicking more of anything and not actively getting upset. But now it’s at WORST an awkward episode from here on out. That and only that.

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  15. It's interesting seeing how differently people view their personal best and worst episodes. You, NC, and OA view episodes of the series differently.

    To quote an episode of Hellsing Ultimate Abridged; "It's a matter of perspective really.".

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  17. According to the Avatar Extras (which were basically when they air episodes with trivia pop ups) they reveal the Painted Lady is a water spirit and is closely related to moon spirit. This means this mysterious lady is connected to Princess Yue. The Painted Lady even resembles Yue’s spirit form. Another thing they reveal is Sokka’s schedule he makes such a big deal about is actually the production schedule for the animators of show… suddenly Sokka’s behavior makes perfect sense. Deadlines can be very strict for animators. Going into my interest for real world history here, the hand sign the statue of the Painted Lady is doing is the Vitarka Mudrâ. A Buddhist gesture for conversation and teaching. I get that the clip of Koh was meant to be funny, but the fact the clip used Avatar Kuruk’s dead girlfriend just made me sad. As for the episode… I like it but I do agree they retreaded a lot of old ground. I feel like it did a good job portraying how the war is harming the Fire Nation’s own people which is something worth seeing but it does hit a lot of notes we already saw.

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  19. I honestly liked this episode, but it wasn't my favorite by far. It still had good action scenes and some funny bits. This episode alone beats other shows best episode, which I say is a tribute to Avatar being awesome.

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  21. In some mythologies nature spirits are so connected to the environments they represent that if the environment gets too contaminated they fade and grow weaker. But they can bounce back if the area gets cleaned up.

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  22. This isn't my favorite episode by any means. To be honest, I'd probably rate it at second-to-worst. But I won't lie, this is SO much better than the Great Divide. It has all of the issues that he said it did,, but the characters still feel like themselves in this one. It doesn't feel like a saturday morning cartoon the same way, you know? It DOES edge closer than most Avatar episodes, but not far enough that it doesn't feel like Avatar to me.

    In other words, I'd rate it Watchable. Not good enough that you have to watch it, but unlike the Great Divide I wouldn't recommend skipping it either simply because there's no good reason not to watch it at least once.

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  23. The criticism OA (and others) have specifically at the end of the episode when the real Painted Lady just comes off as blatantly ignoring a pre-established element of the universe for the sake of throwing more shade at an episode they don't like.

    The Lady showing up at the end after the pollution is removed from the river is the entire point. The Painted Lady is an established river spirit in that area, in the same way that Hei Bai the panda is the spirit of the forest in season 1. And just like in season 1 (which was even brought up by Aang in this same episode), spirits of an area are actively affected by the condition of the area – the Fire Nation cut and burned down swathes of trees, damaging Hei Bai's forest, and causing him to become enraged and attack blindly in anger because it was being attacked by way of the forest being destroyed. And in the same way, the Painted Lady is essentially smothered and drowned by the same pollution poisoning her river. And in both cases, when actions are performed to repair the damage (or show signs that the damage will heal, like Aang with the acorn to Hei Bai), the spirit is similarly healed.

    Also OA can gtfo with the Gaang's solution for getting the Fire Nation out of the village. Just because it's theatrical doesn't mean it's corny or out of character or "cartoonish" – it's called the group going all in on making the Painted Lady the town's hero and going that suitable distance to sell it. They could 100% just do it themselves out in the open but 1) any criticism of that based on Dock finding out afterwards is retroactive meta criticism, 2) it's about the group not drawing attention to themselves as a group in the Fire Nation causing trouble and saving people, which this did work to do (no Fire Nation soldier in that town gets away thinking this was some freedom fighter group), and 3) yeah, let's just get Aang out there openly doing airbending when the whole point is that the Avatar is still "dead by Zuko."

    I understand the criticism about bad character stuff (mostly around Sokka's characterization, but also a lot of the comedic bits just not being good) but let's leave it at that and call it a bad episode by ATLA standards and the episode right before a string of insanely good episodes. And not act like this one was somehow awful or "the worst by far" which is frankly ridiculous.

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