Why they want to become salarymen in the first place and how it in many cases ends up in misery.
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does salaryman mean someone who works at a big company?
I was really surprised to learn you cant job hope there…what a crusher to innovation and efficiency…
for men is salaryman the most common type of job if you live in the city? what would be considered the other big categories…trades person? (i imagine entrepreneur and artist are a thing, but they must be a vast minority)
It's so true about the new stuff. I think it's basically peer pressure. They'd rather have huge debts than a cheap old house and no debt.
If the government is serious about the depopulation issues, they need to implement some societal changes. There are a number of issues, but the long work hours followed by drinking with the team every night needs to be reined in. People are too tired to take care of the emotional needs of themselves or their families and they're definitely too tired to pillow.
I hated office politics.
Good thing I live in the states and remote work since 2020. Most of the people I work with are women visa workers from South Asia who live in the states so I'm not really missing much social-wise when I was in the office. Way different culture from Japan salaryman culture thankfully.
The English version of The Office is awesome!
add Caucasian men (with relatively higher salaries on average) swarming the Japanese dating market then you'd quickly realise how unfortunate a situation the average Japanese men are living in right now
The depressing thing is also that the skills many of the salaryman have are useless.
Much of the overtime is unproductive. So the salary per hour is relatively low, since unproductive companies pay little money.
Endless spreadsheet updates of smaller and smaller tasks to do. Other companies do these tasks, so there is no skill gained.
A materialistic and boring men will only be able to attack a materialistic and boring woman.
Obviously life is much more complexed, but I’ve seen plenty of rather poor men with cool women. All of these men had great personality and were able to create a fulfilling relationship.
Obviously both parties need to want the same thing and it’s rare, but still it’s nice to see.
Personally my wife is happy when I put attention on taking care of our child. Obviously she wants me to work, but not to sacrifice all of my time for that.
She stated she doesn’t want to the “single opp” – Japanglish for “single operation”, meaning the mother takes care of everything in the house.
I also noticed at the beginning of the relationship that she likes that I vacuum and do laundry 🙂
A lotta of the younger women are immature but a lotta the older western ones are more adroit at emptying your wallet out
Joining an overseas company in Japan it works better?
Men are blamed for the birth decline, but its actually caused by greedy females who expect to marry an Ohtani equivalent. Women have to learn that they have to start at the bottom and wait whilst their man becomes successful or they will have nothing when they are old. I kmow loads of women in Japan who are unmarried, childless cat ladies. Hypergamy is in every culture.
I’m a recent grad considering working remotely as a Software Engineer in rural Japan to save on money. The U.S. is pretty much unaffordable for the younger generation. I’m considering finding a way to live there, as an English teacher and part time remote developer. Getting a visa/residency will be interesting…
celeryman? someone that sells celery?
Well, life is suffering (Buddist tenet). Pleanty of miserable "salarymen" over here in the West too. But the Japanese salarymen have us beat by a long shot, as we Westerners will all go to he11 in the end, whereas they have a good chance for better luck the next time around (reincarnated). Burn on. 😎
Had a management position in Japan and used to leave before my kids woke up and came home after they were in bed. Now backin my home country I'm happy I get to see my kids every day. Not as many public holidays though.
Very informative.
If you marry Japanese, you will never be one of the tribe. You will always be considered an outsider. Rare to see any Japanese-gaijin marriage survive. It doesn’t work.
I always knew generally that Japanese work culture was very hard on Salarymen but I never have heard it put in such a straight forward manner. Thank you for explaining it.
I'm from a very expensive city in North America. Always amazed me how I could buy products from Taiwan, Korea, even Japan, much cheaper than the Japanese can. One of my hobbies is building computers–couldn't believe the parts all cost more over in Tokyo. I had a fantasy of Japan as this technological wonderland, especially since they used to make a lot of those products–nope. I realized quickly, life in Japan is tough.
I used to live in Osaka and I had a Japanese wife…I can relate to this video😂
How did you know all these facts?
Hello it's my first time watching your channel, can you tell me in which area do you live..Man it's beautiful
The Japanese countryside is absolutely gorgeous!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. It's very helpful in understanding their mindset and culture.. I think you articulated it very well.
Thank you so much for your advice previously. You suggested I watch your "how not to buy a akiya" video again, I did and it makes sense.
This video confirms what I suspected. My experience in Japan so far was about the same.
When I came here I also knew Japan had this hierarchical seniority based system they inherited from their militaristic past, and as cringe as it is I came here seeking that "stability" and belief that they would accept me into that as I well, look outwardly Japanese and ???
The salary thing I make a "relatively high salary" working in IT but its peanuts compared to when I was in the US and what does it matter if you are going to take on debt (mortgage) and they will keep printing/devaluing money.
Now I'm 5 years older and with what has happened in my life, and the broader world, i realize that i was a idiot.
I still am a idiot, maybe the pendulum swings. But you seem to be a example that maybe letting the pendulum swing would be good.
I'm sorry for making this seem personal. It's just stress from Japan stuff.
True true
9 to five simps, working hard for the pum pum
I missed this video! I love Japan but would have a very hard time working for a Japanese company. Being former military and government employee I totally understand and agree. We get complacent and comfortable with our steady paycheck. I am struggling with that now as I wish to retire soon in my early 50s.
Are you an Aussie mate?
There's a documentary on YT about a guy working in the post office. He lives in one room in a railroad apartment with his girlfriend. They wouldnt have that if it wasnt for his girlfriend working in a hostess bar. It shows the awful soul sucking existence they have. And the way his boss calls him out on front of everyone. That's a real japanese thing. The nail that sticks out etc….
With which country do you compare? I worked/studied in a number of EU countries and the US, but conditions there are often much worse than in Japan. Especially for people at the lower end of the employment sector. Most Italian men in their 30s still live at home bacause their salary with internships etc is so low they cannot afford any flat.
You omit mentioning that are still quite significant, traditional social pressures in Japan on women being expected to give up their jobs, stay home and raise a family if they get married. Sure more people are staying single & remaining in the workforce but many employers in Japan still treat a woman's marriage announcement like it's her farewell whether she wants to resign or not, the pressure and expectations are there to conform. Some of my friends loved their jobs but said the office atmosphere definitely changed, comments here and there from colleagues, and they were 'encouraged' to quit.
I heard that the percentage of Japanese wives having extramarital affairs is quite high. They marry the older high earning career men and cheat with younger men. One Japanese YouTuber said there are many apps for Japanese married women to use to find other sexual partners. I was shocked to hear since we Americans see Japan as a traditional society.
With Japan's plunging fertility and marriage rates, lazy gold diggers are suffering equally.
geeze it is beautiful in the Japanese countryside
Mort in French means death, it is not called a Mortgage for nothing.
ya but only young women can give birth to babies, who else are they going to marry?
My first trip to Japan last month…..Salarymen looked miserable. Long hours, commute, smoking, drinking, stress….must take a toll.
You're just a cog in the wheel and that goes for anywhere. All of it just rooted in anthropology from how we organize hierarchies and maintain them to order. If you put in decades as a salary man you proved yourself to society and signals that are worthy to find a partner to mate with. It's changing today because as we have become just human capital and commodities havimg a family and leaving a "legacy" has also lost its appeal. The age of the salary man or wage slave in the west is slowing dying.
The Bank of Japan started to take orders from DC and NYC. Monetary policy is the most important issue which is why its rarely talked about in clear language. If you want to understand what happened to Japan and what is being tried on South Korea, look to the US Federal Reserve.
A poor young man could get married in the old days. What's changed? Women have changed. They don't want young poor men anymore and the older guys just sort of use them for fun times. No more marriages, no more families.
Can even non'native english speaker live/work in Japan?😮
Salaryman is a good way to describe employees of the US government. Within a few years of employment, federal employees are already thinking of and planning their retirement. I can't believe I devoted 35 years to the federal government. Now that I'm retired, I, as well as my retired piers, view our time in the federal government as a waste of time. But we all have a million dollars in our retirement accounts.
in the end, the government jobs is the most stable income anywhere in the world, even in the taliban
The problem there is the problem everywhere: capable men putting their energy into accommodating immature younger women.
Very well done! An accurate summation of the plight of many salarymen. Nice house you got there.
I must've been lucky. I was a poor, part-time English teacher in Kyoto when I met my wife to be. She came from a wealthy family but was quite happy to marry me. I went on to become a well-paid translator, copywriter and interpreter working for Dentsu and other large companies. That was almost 40 years ago and we're still very happily married.
I'm a 25 yo man living in osaka. Been here for 6 years and just got out of a relationship with my Japanese ex fiancée because she wanted to have fun lol. Really opened my eyes and gave me a certain perspective about life. I'm still working on my dream to become an architect but I see the older guys at work here and I don't wanna end up like that. I'd rather have fun and live my life to the fullest. Plus it's not hard to get women personally but takes money to go out and stuff. The salaries are very low. It's pretty brutal here and I wish I was prepared when I came here but I don't regret anything. I've learned a lot.
They should find a wife closer to their age then and who have similar goals to theirs instead of going for ladies half their age.
que bonito japon todo bien arregladito y cuidadito 🙃