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Arcane’s and Game of Thrones’ climaxes are nearly identical moments for Jinx and Daenerys respectively, but this pivotal scene of “The Bells” failed for Game of Thrones and “What Could Have Been”‘s finale worked spectacularly. Why did Dany’s madness arc fall short? What goes into a good “burn it all down” moment? Drawing on lessons from Arcane in addition to Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Midnight Express, and other great madness arcs, there are commonalities we see in how these extreme character moments are brought about. Game of Thrones had so many tools to draw on that it failed to properly utilize: the death of Rhaegal and Viserion, the crazed lore of Targaryen history, the mythology of Old Valyria, and obviously the shrinking but still impressive cast of characters surrounding Dany in her final episodes. Using Jinx’s arc as a model, we can give the Mother of Dragons the great fiery end she deserves.
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0:00 – The questions
2:20 – What I’ve been missing w/ Jinx
5:52 – Rule #1
8:25 – Rule #2
9:21 – Rule #3
10:57 – Rule #4
12:08 – Rule #5
13:24 – Hitler (Rule #6)
15:30 – Rule #7
16:39 – Rule #8
17:26.- Rule #9 (Abby’s Levels)
20:39 – Rule #10
21:28 – Rediagnosing GoT’s problems
27:20 – The Fixes
41:23 – tribute to my teacher
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I hated both. Daenerys a bit less becuz I did saw pride taking over her in the whole season & Jinx… just 180° in a second. It's just, there were a lot of good characters to balance that Madness-created-toxicity out in Arcane, especially Ekko, but Jon Snow didn't do great job at that.
And so, I realized that I have gone mad. Great fucking news. Good vid, appreciate it.
I'm glad I clicked on this video. One, it's a good video. But two, it's reminded me of what a good show Arcane is.
Over and over in that show they'd present a setup and I'd already be rolling my eyes. "Oh, I've seen this before. Maybe the execution will be a little different, but I bet I could write this plot out now and be reasonably accurate." But then, inevitably, the show would surprise me every time. The story was just complex enough and character-driven enough to not fall into all the usual tropes. The first episode of the first arc they open with teenagers from a slum on a heist in the rich part of town. And I thought I'd seen that show before. In fact, I considered just turning the show off. But the show seemed interesting enough to stick with. Then you get to the second episode. I found this one more interesting, but I was still thinking "Man risen above his station whose fear and ambition lead him to break the boundaries of what is ethical" was just the same old story we've seen before. But then the end of the arc just wraps all these things up in such a different way than I thought the show would. It was so much darker and more interesting than I was expecting, and more human too. And the show just kept doing that every episode. Incredible writing. And in a video game tie-in show: the last place I'd expect to see innovative (or even just competent) storytelling.
i may be wrong, but there's a song by NF "intro III" that I think represents very well inner conflict and in general the whole jinx situation between her and powder, with the fact that he wants to "bury his fear" (like powder who was dead to jinx) and this idea of wanting to silence the voices inside his head, there are many more examples, give it a go and you'll notice them
Powerful. Something I've learned on my recovery journey is that if you don't deal with the past, it will ALWAYS be present, even if you try to pretend that it isn't.
It's very interesting to think about this in context of House of the Dragon. The writers claim to have learned from Game of Thrones (they haven't but that's beside the point here), but in order to avoid yet another "mad queen" arc, it appears that they've adopted a "Rhaenyra can do no wrong" mindset and are hypercorrecting and adjusting the source material to make her seem more righteous and, as an extension of that, extremely passive. Things just happen to her, she does not act or make choices that could impact her likeability (although they exist in the source material), she's portrayed as a victim through and through so that the audience is inclined to sympathise with her by default. This makes her incredibly uninteresting as a character and ironically the characters that oppose her (caricaturesque though they are, with inconsistent as they characterisation) become way more compelling by virtue of actually doing things. The conflict in the show is not nuanced. There's simply the people who don't like Rhaenyra and their reasons are portrayed as petty and unvalid and therefore wrong, people who support Rhaenyra and are therefore in the right (even though they have no personality besides that), and Daemon who's just there to do his thing.
As someone who has had a psychotic break, I have to say: Jinx's break was a very good representation, but Dracula from Netflix's Castlevania? I never felt such a precise representation with a character, I react to grief/guilt with mad rage, and I constantly fall to a state of dormency before snapping again, and repeat again and again
ive never seen game of thrones but this video made me understand so many characters better. not only jinx but also corrupted catra from 2018's she-ra, dabi from boku no hero academia and even belos from the owl house
Great video!! An idea I just had to make Dany's madness more plausible would've been to make her have a dream of her future since apparently some Targaryens have prophetic dreams. That way she would've been able to externalize her fears of becoming the tyrant she always tried not to be and hated and also slightly slipping down this path. It might not be the most original idea but the way I see it and with the short amount of time they had it could have worked.
Knowing the character if she know she was to lose two of her "children" and become the monster she hated so much it would've been enough for me to accept her madness
Anyway thank you for your video very complete and it helped me see and understand the madness process better.
Excellent breakdown, I really enjoyed this video. I just wanted to comment how great @12:05 is – "it's double bunny".
man I didn't like jinx, felt like they make her way too serious and it didn't fit her.
Turning the hero into a villain can certainly be better written than it was in Game of Thrones or Revenge of the Sith, but I'm not convinced it can ever really work. You can make the turn more believable (or just less unbelievable), but it still won't feel right. It just goes against everything that the reader instinctively wants out of storytelling. Sometimes the hero dies or fails against the evil… but for the hero to become the evil… it just doesn't work. You can hear the voice of the kid from The Princess Bride demanding, "Jesus, Grandpa, what did you read me this for?"
Powder was never the hero of her story thread, but Daenerys was.
The last image I choose to have of Daenyrs is when she's on that ship heading towards Westeros, I refuse to canonize anything in season 8
Jinx "madness arc" if you can call it that was one episode shes a dumb kid the next she's insane and screwing the dude that killed her dad and brothers…. I honestly got like 2 episodes past that and lost interest, cool setting and art style but the story is so contrived and forced it kind ruins everything else
Edit: I finished the show because the whole victor / hex tec shit was interesting but honestly I should have just stopped where I was the rest was a waste of time , the animation and action was pretty good but the story was dumb as fuck so many contrivances and stupid plot points for idk reasons lol the whole thing just felt forced and there was plenty of times I said outloud "seriously why thats so stupid" , there are much better ways to write an evil character that just enjoys being evil without all the stupid knock off harley quin bullshit or vi just saying shell never leave powder again then 2 seconds later she bails and echo goes to fight jinx so vi can carry her gf away because she got a cut when it should have been echo taking her because it was HIS plan to talk to the counselors but noooooooo plot needs to happen so they make vi carry her away and leave echo to fight jinx basically conforming jinx's delusions )
3/10 art style , setting and Victor and the hex tec stuff was cool but the whole jinx thing and all the plot holes kinda ruined it
Unbiased review had 0 idea what this was before I watched , I feel all the positive reviews are either smooth brains or lol fanatics because this was actually pretty bad , dont see what all the hype was about
Someone send this to them lol
The Game of Throne fandom, especially the millions of people that were deeply in love with dany as a character felt like it was a personal attack on their very selves when they clearly depicted her as the leader of some third reich like Hitler after everything we've been through with her, making so many references to it after thinking she would save/change the GoT world. I guess the truth is what you end monarchy with "breaking the wheel" can very well be an even more evil thing you introduce the world to like authoritarianism, full on fascism and this is what they writers wanted to show.
People seeing madness under only one scope doesn't sits well with me, Danny was put under every traumatizing event posible and she keep going under this idea that all that she needs was the iron throne and keep pushing and accumulating this madness that she Hide because she didn't wanted to be compared to her father or fall in the "Targaryens are crazy" but you can only put that much pressure to someone before out of nothing with just the tiniest push they explode and in that moment Danny saw how her ambition to be on the iron Throne make her loose almost everything Misandei being the last string she was her friend almost even her family so even with that end not being what i wanted i understand it after a while.
Yes! I’ve had an issue with Dany’s madness it felt rushed and wasn’t satisfying i felt blindsided
I wrote a paper for my psych class about this topic. But specifically psychosis (schizophrenia to be more accurate) and omg I didn’t know how deep it would be. From analyzing her early life down to the last episode, all the little details and the chaos or madness she’s shows was so heartbreaking to write about but also entertaining. Jinx is a weapon, a strong but messed up being and yet, she’s also just hurt and screwed up by so many people to a point where she develops psychosis and I can no longer blame her. It’s an interesting yet sad story and your video really helped me understand that more! Jinx deserved better tbh 😭
On the idea of this madness. Based on this explanation, great job, I don’t see how. But do you think there could be a “good guy” protagonist who is also mad and crazy? Like not evil. But someone you can actually root for because they do things that are “good?” Not just good to them like Nazi paradise, but good as a whole to the onlookers. Like how super heroes are considered good guys
Great video, but it had a few spelling errors becomes bless human lol. I like how long this video is because with madness arches I feel like they deserve a deeper dive to understand what makes them work and what doesn't. Gonna watch some more vids and probably sub. Great content Schnee!