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hard to say if buyers in the US vs EU is just about money, or more like people in the US like showing off their money way more
The guild I was in during classic/tbc classic was great and it was council loot setup. It was pretty fair and the leaders tried really hard to make it that way and the raiders could tell. I like that old fashion setup instead of the GDKP setup. Tried once and it wasn’t for me.
gdkp is fine but when old bob says he doesnt want to farm gold because he can make $30 an hour and swipe then you know your game has a problem
Dkp back in vanilla
Why not make all the gear tradeable at this point?
I am more on the side of WillE in this case. Asmon has his memories of ninja looking and scamming people. but just like in the video. People are motivated by different things. I do wish that blizzard would do more about bots and RMT to keep GDKP more reasonable but oh well. we shall see how things work out.
I would try Wotlk if it wasn't for RMT an d GDKP, it's way to similar to how Chinese servers are, it's bad.
A person named Asmongold who call on people to trade him gold and loot every item he needs from the raids he do is an GDKP enjoyer… Huh, who could of gues that… 😂
For me, the game has become a p0rn fiesta. All those GDKP, Loot Councils, Reserve on items. This is just legit way to be a ninja. Back then when you take item for yourself the whole server "BOOO" on you and now is somethink regular and normal. I can call the way wow is with all those stuff going on "The Rise of The Degenerat's" sadly the old game is gone and most of the people that create that special place are gone to, this is why you will never expirience the same Wotlk, TBC or Classic ever again like in Old day's. World is the same, patch is the same but people, people are diffrend…
My guild would give bis gear to pugs then tell me I’m being an asshole for being mad about it.
"if you don't like it just don't do it"
I mean that is what people did. They quit the entire game. Nobody is telling others not to do GDKPs.
When guild stop raiding I stopped playing. GDKP was not worth my time. There was no satisfaction in being dragged along in content and no progression guilds that wanted to learn. So why play?
I don't get why people complain about stuff that doesn't matter. It's like trying about rp servers when ur in a pvp server. Don't attend gdkp and poof no matter what happens in them it doesn't effect you.
The fact chats says yes that the world first Thori'dal was given to a rogue 🤦♂
32:00 This is how I feel when Asmon malds about store mounts, wow tokens, personal loot. Store mounts/wow tokens are great, it's why the game is still even breathing. And honestly get the f over it lol.
While asmongold is funny and all that, behaviour like his is still the reason we have toxicity so high in wow. Everyone is elitist.
Love me some gdk raids baby
GDKP wouldnt bother me if gold buying wasnt a thing, the idea of a gdkp is really cool if everyone is farming this gold legitimately, but adding gdkp and gold buying together ruins the game for me turns it into a literal korean style p2w mmo.
GDKPs, loot councils etc all make me glad that Personal Loot, for all its flaws, exists.
Players have proven time again that they'll only ever use control over loot to exploit. Whether for gold, contrived pyramid schemes or arbitrarily denying players loot access despite their participation to ninja loot for self or friends.
An example of GDKP raiding vs Guild Raiding from a personal POV in WotLK Clasic:
– My Main is part of my TBC guilds Wrath roster. We clear 10m and 25m weekly. Insufficient players in guilds for splits or alts run.
– I have 2 alts, both of which I want to raid, but no guild raids to utilize.
– I run my alts in GDKPs on off days.
– End result? Spending 80k + on gear, having 2 alts who are MORE geared then my MAIN that raids in guild.
– And it's not like I went broke or anything, if fact I now have 20k more gold then I did when starting wrath.
PRO TIP: Find yourself a dedicated GDKP group to run weekly. You might need to spend some gold to get your foot in, but its a return on investment cause as you gear level rises, your power level rises, and then you find yourself not spending any gold on gear cause the item you wanted didnt drop. This is presuming your not doing this blindly and vet the groups you run with + ACTUALLY have a grasp of your class/spec where you can eventually become a carry and arent brain dead.
I just raid the raids with PUG's and we roll on the items we want. Thats it.
The thing is you can get Naxx gear from heroic+ dungeons so people will have decent gear they will not be trashos, mybe.
From my knowledge I'm pretty sure only guild to do zero lights in the dark prenerf was a Chinese guild called STARS and they had it revoked for glitching or bugging adds on phase 3 with a hunter. Could be wrong about this it's been over a decade now lol
i think the worst thing to happen in MMOs was equipment binding- bind on equip, bind on pickup, etc. In MMOs everything should be tradeable, more over the BEST gear should be crafted gear (have those top tier raid bosses drop top tier mats instead of direct equipment).
glad i watch wow and not play it then.
I hit 80 and realized progression is locked behind rng and greedy guilds, also the fact that you cant progress in pvp or be viable without first being gay as hell and slay dragons or whatever is dogshit. Also not to mention the community is trash and 90% of players buy gold and have been playing for decades. They don't explain anything, expect you to know everything your first time and get angry at. Locking the content and relying on rng are just dogshit mechanics. The end game in wotlk is daily and weekly grinds. I wish somebody told me before wasting my time.
in oldskool vanilla it was a big thing to let people pay for the raidspot instead of the loot itself
Big bait = Big fish!
I played WoW: Wrath Of The Lich King Years ago… WITH NO GDKP AT ALL…
I continued to DO pugs and dungeons and used tokens to collect gear.
GDKP totally ruined TBC pug life for me.
GDKP are for Chinese gold sellers and losers who cant achieve things on their own. Just all the Retail andys who did CN Mythic carries for your gold, then sold your gold back to you on their 3rd party site. Asmonbalds take is so bad, because he has never had to spend 60 hours a week at work to support himself or his family. Therefore allowing himself those hours to play a game that he doesnt have to work for his things in.
I wonder if gdkp will die down when the raid content can't be facerolled while carrying half the raid
people from private servers will speed run ulduar like its a normal 5 man dungeon they played in wotlk for years there with boosted difficulty servers
As someone who always played wow sporadicly, GDKP gave me a way to actually enjoy end game gear and big numbers I wanted but never had time to commit to a guild. So I don’t mind them.
Im a big fan of a priority system for pugs, run it through a website and everyone gets 3-5 picks, if an item drops and you have the highest prio set for it and nobody else has that item chosen = instantly yours, if you have a tie for the set prio those people roll for it, that way you can set your own goal on which item is worth the most to you and even put a strategic twist on it with higher prio winning over lower prio
GKPs happened often for 20m content at the end of Vanilla on Gorgonnash.
The mention of original DKP from EQ (EverQuest) is the real VIP info. I remember when they first implemented that into raids to make raiding "fair" for those who don't get loot. The raiders can save their "points" earned from boss kills to bid on items they need when one actually drops. That's how the original system worked.