How did this gentle old man inspire such SHOCKING films?



This was originally going to be one of my extremely long videos, probably 2 hours or so in length, but I decided I needed to tone it down a bit. No idea if this video will find an audience, if it does, I’d love to dig into this topic further. Ideally, I’d love to do a video about the true crime and serial killer movies, and then I’d love to do one on the se* comedies/movies (yes, I’ve had to censor a few things here, trying not to get the video de-monetized and thus receiving no views).

One thing I think I would have liked to include in the section about Run Run Shaw was his consistency in wanting to give his viewers whatever they wanted. As Godfrey Ho says in the video, “this was the selling point of the movies, this is what the audiences wanted.” when referring to the cinematic violence. There’s a great story in a book called Ask For the Moon by Meredith Lewis (I found it after writing the script/recording the audio for this video) where it describes how the Shaw Bros. put on a play in their earliest days and when one of the leads came on the stage, the physical stage broke underneath him and he fell below. The audience laughed so much, thinking it was part of the show, that the next night the Shaws made sure that the actor fell through the floor again. His idea was to give the viewer what they wanted, and if that meant buckets of blood… so be it.

Also, one little correction (sort of)… When I say in the video “recertified for video” in reference to Triads: The Inside Story, I mean it probably had a cinematic (meaning shown in theaters) recertification BEFORE it hit video. The video market uses a different rating system than Cat 1, 2a, 2b, and 3. While what I said wasn’t inherently wrong, I could have worded it better and I only thought about it upon 4th rewatch!

A brief synpopsis:
This video focuses on what the Category III rating actually is, the history and landscape before it, and it also takes a look at the first local Hong Kong film to receive the rating, the first Western/foreign film, and the first from mainland China. Hope you all enjoy it!

Sources:
. This Week in Sleaze (the greatest CAT III podcast ever! Find it wherever you get your podcasts)
. Conversations with Kenny B. and King Who?
. Fighting Without Fighting: Kung Fu Cinema’s Journey to the West by Luke White.
. The Error 4444 supplemental feature Wild Ratings: Talking Category III w/ Arne Venema & Mike Leeder of CFK – taken from the Red to Kill Bluray ( never actually referenced it in the video, but definitely watched it a couple of times for this).
. Warning! Category III: The Other Hong Kong Cinema by Darrell W. Davis and Yeh Yueh-Yu. Taken from Film Quarterly Vol. 54, No. 4 (Summer 2001), pp. 12-26 (15 pages).
. A Study of the Hong Kong Swordplay Film (1945-1980) from The Fifth Hong Kong International Film Festival.
. The documentaries Category III: The Untold Story of Hong Kong Exploitation (2018) by Callum Waddell and Black Sunshine: Conversations with T.F. Mou (2011) by J.L. Carrozza.
. I’m not sure if I used any information from it directly, but I was reading These Fists Break Bricks by Grady Hendrix and Chris Poggial while writing the script and that thing is packed with so much information that its entirely possible that some crept in.

CHAPTERS:
00:00-02:10 – Introductions
02:11-09:19 – Chapter I: History of a Rating
09:20-11:50 – Chapter II: Creation of a Rating
11:51-17:34 – The Three Firsts of Cat 3
17:35-21:31 – Sentenced to Hang
21:32-25:34 – The Other Possible Firsts in HK
25:35-28:11 – Chapter III: Conclusions

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20 thoughts on “How did this gentle old man inspire such SHOCKING films?”

  1. A goof-up few will notice, but I figure I might as well point out down here in the comments. When I bring up Lee Chung Ling, I used a clip that was not him from Temptation Summary 2. Should have used a clip from the first movie. I should have known because of his less-than-chunky cheeks, but I guess I was desperate to feature him and also feature CAT III man. Darn. I just saw the CAT III man costume, got excited, and threw him in there. Knew his face looked off, but I chalked it up to the Clark Kent haircut.

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  2. Hi Weird Cinema! Wow! This is great Video! Yes more Obscure Movies! Like Hong Kong movies are so totally Excellent. Like Legend of the Liquid Sword Etc. Shaw Brothers + Wong Kar Wai Etc. Horror + Comedy + Kung Fu Etc.

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  3. Wow, this channel is a GOLDMINE, I'm glad I found it!
    Category III movies are awesome, I especially love them because they have something to tell behind all the carnage and gore, no big "message" or pretentious moralizing, but a story, stories rooted in reality and dealing with human hardship, even if on the surface they seem over the top or comedic. My favorite movie of that category would be Tun-Fei Mou's Man Behind the Sun and Lost Souls, Ricky-Oh: The Story of Ricky and The Untold Story.

    You should check out the Mondo films by Gualtiero Jacopetti and Franco Prosperi and their legacy for film history, a very interesting topic!

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  4. I'd love to see more videos about category iii films, or about behind the scenes stuff at Shaw.
    My favorite Cat III has to be Ebola Syndrome. When he's running down the street screaming "EBOLA! EBOLA!" and spitting on people gets me everytime

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  5. I find it hard to believe the mainland government would allow Men behind the Sun to be made or screened. What constitute it as a mainland film? China is still quite a conservative place. A HK creative team working in China is labelled a mainland film?

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  6. I almost never recommend Cat III films to my white friends back in the days, but looking back, HK movies with the MAX entertainment value and memorial hilarity were by far more Cat III films than anything else. With all the edge lords running the corridors of America nowadays, I sooner show them a Cat III film than a prim and proper Shaw Brothers wuxia flick.

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  7. Hey, firstly I would just like to say what an amazing channel you have, there are not many YouTube channels out there that take as much time and dedication, or go into any depth or detail as yours does, the time you take to compile all the clips and much appreciated (add what said clip is at the bottom) keep doing what you’re doing. I love this channel, and when I saw this video on CATIII films I couldn't believe it, I myself have been a huge CATIII fan for many years now, ever since I saw Sex & Zen and Naked Killer for the first time all those years ago. And since then, I have tried to seek out and source more and more titles ever since, although we are very lucky now, with a lot of boutique labels now releasing more and more CATIII titles. But there are still very few YouTube channels that talk about them, and how amazing they are and what a true treasure to the golden age of Hong Kong cinema they are. So much so I have even thought about starting a channel myself, but just haven't found the time at the moment. but maybe…
    So, as for some of my favourite Category III films, Ebola Syndrome (or anything with Anthony Wong), Eternal Evil of Asia, Escape from Brothel, Daughters of Darkness, 3 Days of a Blind Gril (Anthony Wong again), Hong Kong Godfathers just to name a few, I could go on and on lol.
    To answer your question yes I would love to see a series on Category III movies, and even more one done by you I think that would be awesome especially being a subject you can go very in depth on, I would love to hear more about some of your favourite titles and some more obscure ones that are never brought up or talked about.

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  8. Nice video. But "the west" is not a monolith. Also Bruce had to go back to Hong Kong because of 1960s Hollywood racism. Not the popularity of the Green Hornet. Otherwise good job.

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