HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Season FINALE “The Queen Who Ever Was” S2E8 Reaction and Review!
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Introduction: 00:00
Reaction: 15:25
Discussion/Review: 54:44
Intro & Outro music:
Title: Infraction & MOKKA – Place to Hide
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what is left of the story is just war and trajedy so i areciate this season
😮 No reaction when Daemon said “Winter is coming “ that’s the biggest Tag Line ⚔️
i dont think he was saying he wants daemon to overthrow rhaenyra he wants daemon to lead the fight. the last time he saw rhaenyra she didnt have the new riders and was just sitting there doing nothing. he is saying he wants daemon to take over command of the war not the throne. all reactors are the same at this part getting all bent ot of shape because he wants a experienced battle tested person to lead the fight. i could be wrong but i dont see it the way you do.
Rhaenyra's choice of executing aegon or exiling him is not unusual at all in this world, and has been done both ways throughout its history with both good and bad results. The "ending of opposition" via death vs exile will become very important as this show (and everything after it) plays out.
As I understand it, ten episodes were actually planned, but Warner Bros. wanted to make it eight. I think the showrunner also said that there was supposed to be a battle at the end of this season, which had to be moved to the third season. And unfortunately you notice that because the pacing doesn't seem on point. If there were two more episodes, this season would probably be fantastic.
I loved Tyrone Lannister and his new friend from Essos
I agree that this was a good episode. Lots happen to set up for next season. When you are binging this series in the future in will just flow into season 3. I want to know what has happened to the 2 young Princes that left the Vale. Maybe they are the future of the blood line. Or is it going to be Helena’s child. Will that girl marry one of the Princes that sailed away somewhere. Joining the green and the blacks family line. 🤷🏼♀️
House of the Drag, amirite?
As long as Aegon lives, there would always be some who would want Aegon back on the throne. Even if Rhaenyra takes the throne, it will be an uneasy rule as people who were loyal to the greens would be out to get her and Reseat the greens because the "old king" is still alive. It's kind of like when Danerys burned the Tarley's when they didn't bend the knee. If they weren't willing to accept her rule, they'd always be looking to overthrow her or they'd be in prison forever.
Friendly reminder, Rhaenyra, just as bad a leader as Aegon. In fact, if it wasn’t for that council everyone likes to criticize, she would have suffered the exact same fate as him at Rooks Rest.
Oh Stefani I just want to hug you! I get the frustration, and you aren't alone. It's been mentioned below the issues around the series being shortened at the same time as they were working around the writers strike, I'm just going to add that the shortened season was a decision made by the 'powers that be' at WB, not HBO. The purchase of HBO put a huge financial strain on WB, and it's easy to save a few million by cutting Hot D short. It's a dumb decision but I get why someone would make that call based just on the numbers. Sadly, the things going on in the background aren't common knowledge, and what's visible is a season that ends somewhere no-one really wanted, and it's an awfully long time to wait for the threads that should have been included in S2.
All that said, I agree with Mesel. I give the episode 5 mugs. The final montage of the pieces moving 'on the board' was well done and gives a great impression of the scale of the war about to kick off. I'm not sure if you caught the dragon flying over the Hightower troops, that's Alicent's youngest son Daeron on his dragon Tessarion 'The Blue Queen'.
The horned person you may(?) have seen capering behind the Weirwood at Harrenhal is thought to be a member of the 'Order of the Green Men', who you'll know Stefani from the main ASOIAF books, are committed to protecting the Weirwood trees and live on the Isle of Faces (all the Weirwoods) in the middle of The God's Eye lake (right next to Harrenhal). I loved the series of vision images given to Daemon, even if I agree with you and think the prosthetics for the White Walker shown were a bit naff. I think the sight of Bloodraven that includes the birthmark that gave him his name was *so good*, and they've tied the show together to GoT nicely with giving us such a clear image of Dany with her baby dragons.
I think one of the reasons Hot D is working so well for me is that they haven't ignored the magics or how they effect the characters. Harrenhal in particular they've absolutely soaked in mysticism and spookiness and that goes a long way to show why it's called 'haunted' even centuries later. Hot D has shown us how quickly knowledge of Valyria was falling away even during peace, and the war will erode it even faster as the remaining Targs endeavour to wipe each other out.
Looking forward to coming back to GoT with the girls, but I'll miss Mesel's quiet wit. Obviously the only solution is to stay subscribed so I don't miss his eventual return. 😉
Bye Mesel, Stefani, I'll see you next time. 😙
I'd be curious what you think is going to happen next season. The Starks are crossing the twins into the riverlands, Daemon has his army at the Riverlands, The hightowers are on the march to the Riverlands with a dragon riding support? I'm guessing because I haven't read the books, but I think I remember that being the plan with Aemond supposedly giving aerial support. Ulf is a complete drunk and untrustable to make good decisions. I'd have killed him already and looked for another rider for his dragon. (I don't see why they haven't already – that is a big error in either the books or screenplay). Why would you trust your future in a drunk? Do you have any plans to do a what you hope will be in the next season and what you think they'll write into it?
The writers strike played havoc with this season. Next season is going to be epic.
I'm not sure why but I thought Stef would like this episode and Mesel would be the one disappointed. Ultimately, I feel similar to Stef on this episode and about how Season 3 probably isn't going to be overly action packed. While I enjoyed quite a bit of Season 2, I'm left feeling disappointed in the end. I wasn't even asking for big battles every other episode, it's not about that. The scheming and dialogue is what I was wanting a little more from. Too much of this season felt like setup, and imo that stems mostly from Daemon's plot. It dragged and didn't end very satisfying, but it also effected what Rheanrya could do. She literally said it herself "What would you have me do!?" lol. I just can't see how that was worth the time invested into it.
a knight of the seven kingdoms will be a new TV show next year
It's a fantastic 8/10 episode but it doesn't seem like an episode for the season finale. The actors, magnificent, the music, but thanks to HBO it remains incomplete. We have two years to get used to hearing dragons cry, die… after watching Melisse's scene 20 times I hardly cry anymore 😂
Award for best mother goes to Alicent for not only sacrificing Aegon and Aemond but also Daeron who is now marching with the Hightower army
I don't think I'll be back for S3. The show is incredibly immature in its writing and directing. For example each time a Team Green does a crime, it's zoomed in, mentioned over and again, and the character pays up for it in the slightest. (Like Alicent getting cut where she cut Rhaenyra, or is forced to drink Moon Tea like Dyanna) while each time a Team Black woman does a crime, they do their best to make the audience forget about it and the crime in itself has no consequences. Like how many people remember that Rhaenyra had an innocent guard killed and burned his face to pass him off as Laenor? That's murder. How many people remember that Rhaenys stomped on hundreds of innocent civilians in the Dragonpit? It's like the showrunners are telling us that murder and war crimes are okay if it's your favorite people doing them or if they have a similar ideology as you. Deeply disturbing.
I initially had a unsatisfied feeling, but after a few days to let it sit I’d give it a 4.5! Left me wanting more. And as long as the budget doesn’t get cut again and it goes back to 10 episodes the rest of the series will be intense and satisfying.
Daemon was War Criminal BAE the whole time
Not a spoiler, but Fire n Blood is still incomplete. The story of a couple of characters(and Dragons) in this war are still incomplete.
This episode is a 4/5 but as a finale, its a 3/4. Agree, too many dangling threads, IT felt like the penultimate. Its clear to me they didnt have the resources for a "Big Battle" .
There's another ASOIAF show coming next year{Knight of The Seven Kingdoms). Daemon might have seen something from that show(potentially) from his vision.
50:20 no i’m sorry she need to kill him
All hail the producer!!
Been out of town so just watched but seen many comments that said team black supporters are gonna be mad after this episode. Did I miss the scene that was supposed to piss people off??
25:11 Dreamfyre was not used in wars by her last rider
Yeah this episode and the season overall were fine, but ultimately disappointing.