Yeah the gunplay/gore in RDR2 is way better than GTA V, but I agree the gameplay itself is really clunky at times which I’ve only recently started to notice
in my opinion i like the gameplay of gta 5 and the older gtas (i havent played red dead 1 or 2 yet) so in my opinion they should stick with the same gameplay as gta 5
first good video that actualy analyses and gives reasons/arguments why it will suck. And not just trying to make it sound like it will suck with zero content.
For those who have absolutely no idea on how games are created let me tell you this, first you make sure you have an engine( for gunplay, movement etc.) then you make sure the engine related things are done which are movement, gunplay, etc. Then you do the graphics AT LAST. Look at the games' clips in their developing process and full version of them. Compare them, gta 6's leaked clips look absolutely amazing even for development process of not only gta 6 but everygame ever released. So In CONLUSION, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. STRONG RESOURCES SAYS THE GAME IS GOING TO BE RELEASED IN 2024 AND PROBABLY WILL HAVE AN AMAZING GRAPHICS AND GREAT GAMEPLAY AS IN RDR2. Come on we are talking about Rockstar the company that did Rdr2. Dont be stupid, dont believe everything cant speak english correctly mfs' say
Both GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 has in its core been focused on a cinematic adventure that anyone can play. They are casual games so it attracts the wider market, hence their success. Their gunplay being simplistic is definetly a choice they make on purpose, and if you consider the people that play with way less experience in videogames it makes sense why. In what ways could they add layers to gunplay without complicating it for "the casuals"? Maybe a difficulty slider? If gunplay was complex but there was an option to play on easy it wouldnt hurt the mainstream audience as much. In any case, we've yet to see that in their games as it is a risky decision.
When it comes to the Rockstar's level design thats where they are lacking in excuses. Most missions they have are so heavily linear it limits creativity on a lot of them. I'd love to see the ability to complete missions in ways that are less obvious, and I don't think this would hurt the casual experience either since one may always play it through the "obvious correct path".
In any case, I still enjoy these games for their cool setpieces, immersion, and writing. I don't think I'm alone on this, and Rockstar knows that. The game will still be very enjoyable even with subpar simple gunplay.
However, I'm still worried GTA VI can fail, as its just a general consesus that videogames release half-finished in the modern game industry. Please never pre-order, be skeptical of what they show 😀
Edit: congrats on the algorithm promoting your video, I enjoyed it even if I disagreed with some aspects xd
Well its just that devs use something called "placehoulders" which can be easily be used from a previous game to just test and make certain things works for the time, things like textures and stuff change like a 100 times during the devlopemnt cycle, even animations. I can trust rockstar for not making the game feel like gta5, because they know how to make a game feel different then others. no matter what game you play or look at from rockstar, you will be exactly able to tell the differenc between the 2, even the og trilogy had different lighting, feel, animations for it which fit well for the world. This is the thing they do with each of there games, gta4 feels different the 5 and rdr2 feels totaly different too. This is the reason why no matter how much ray traching rtx you put on it, no matter how many cities to mod into it, no matter it the main guy looks like tommy or cj, YOU CAN TELL, that its gta5, no matter how much anyone changes it, we can tell just by looking at it that yeah, thats gta5. and thats the reason I can trust rockstar. They might suck at manking online games, but when it comes to single player, only they themselfs can beat it.
As a developer (not on GTA) it frustrates the FUCK out of me when people look at these leaks and trash the game.
It's EARLY FUCKING FOOTAGE!
It's using PLACEHOLDER ASSETS
A lot of the clips are TESTING IF MECHANICS WORK.
This is NOT representative of the final game, and never will be. Are people really THAT fucking stupid to even ASSUME a high budget game would release with placeholder materials and blockouts?
People need to CHILL THE FUCK OUT. Seriously. This is damaging to the developers who spend YEARS of their life, doing long shifts, to get these games out. It's demotivating. It's damaging. And it's downright disgusting that people trash things without understanding what the fuck they even are.
My man you have no idea what you're talking about. For you (at least), GTAV and RDR2 may seem similar because up to now, GTA 5 does not have any competition and that is because it's Rockstar made, they go out of generations. Also what else would you expect from a cowboy game? It literally got more awards than the entire GTA franchise. Plus they are in 2 different time eras, you can't call that "similar" Also, I don't like how you used gta 6 leaks as discussion, they are still in development and you can't judge them. Sure I get your point of R* releasing 2 games in the last decade, some part of it is because of GTAO, but making a game such as RDR2 made Rockstar to use crunch on their employees, the entire team was working on it. Gta Trilogy definitive was made by GSG, not Rockstar ffs I probably said that a billion times. Oh yeah, the reason why Cyberpunk was bad is because they started to actually developing it around 2016, from 2012 they only had the idea, so CDPR just kept doing fancy marketing
Lmao at all the internet white knights defending Rockstar, their comments make them all seem like unhinged religious zealots. "EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT BRA, JUST HAVE FAITH" "DO U HAVE NE IDEA WHAT IT TAKEZ TO MAKE A VIDYA GAME?!" 🤣 gotta love it when people defend soulless corporations who have no respect or regard for their fans. It's almost as if they think their opinions matter to anyone but themselves. Spoiler alert: they don't.
Oh please you don't know what you're talking about. GTA 6 is still in its early development stage. The footage you saw is from an unfinished version that was from few years ago. It's not what the final product is gonna look like. The game is gonna look amazing when it's finished. They're using Rage 9 which's the equivalent of Unreal Engine 5. Red Dead 2 certainly does not suck and it's not the same as GTA 5 while they're both great games regardless them milking GTA Online to death. You obviously don't know what you're talking about, don't know how games are made but jumping to conclusions. GTA 6 is already looking very promising and better than GTA 5 even in its early stage which probably won't be released until 2024.
Better mechanic yes better gameplay it just an improvement from the last one WHICH is a good think, man same controles doesn't mean same fucking game, nobody complained about call of duty being nearly the same as 2019 even with twice the budget or for never changing the jump button, RDR2 has way better movements than gta5, you just have to reduce the aim assist bullshit they stick with and it's ok
Yeah the gunplay/gore in RDR2 is way better than GTA V, but I agree the gameplay itself is really clunky at times which I’ve only recently started to notice
is this satire
in my opinion i like the gameplay of gta 5 and the older gtas (i havent played red dead 1 or 2 yet) so in my opinion they should stick with the same gameplay as gta 5
for me its not the graphics its jus story and online that I'm excited about
gta 6 will suck because it's about heists again just with SJW charcter.
Gta 6 = GTA V with SJW characters.
I literally got this on my recommendations lmao
first good video that actualy analyses and gives reasons/arguments why it will suck. And not just trying to make it sound like it will suck with zero content.
For those who have absolutely no idea on how games are created let me tell you this, first you make sure you have an engine( for gunplay, movement etc.) then you make sure the engine related things are done which are movement, gunplay, etc. Then you do the graphics AT LAST. Look at the games' clips in their developing process and full version of them. Compare them, gta 6's leaked clips look absolutely amazing even for development process of not only gta 6 but everygame ever released. So In CONLUSION, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. STRONG RESOURCES SAYS THE GAME IS GOING TO BE RELEASED IN 2024 AND PROBABLY WILL HAVE AN AMAZING GRAPHICS AND GREAT GAMEPLAY AS IN RDR2. Come on we are talking about Rockstar the company that did Rdr2. Dont be stupid, dont believe everything cant speak english correctly mfs' say
It could literally be an online game and if it is it will be trash for sure
As if you could do better
The game us unfinished and that footage was in 2019
I liked the video because of the "Sent it to your enemy." comment.
Ah yes GTA 6 will be a terrible game because RDR 2 didn’t improve on GTA V’s gunplay that much
Makes sense
Based. (Its still in development you idiot)
saying rdr2 plays the same as gta5 is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard and instantly invalidates anything past that moment in the video
You know about LADA
It's time for Ubisoft to bring back Driver.
Right mechanics sucks damn slow I want them like horizon game
can someone tell me which music is he using? sounds familiar…
I feel u man but did u play story mod rdr2?if u didint play it just play it man
Brother the game is not even out yet
U dont know anything abt game developement so stfu
The game hasnt even been finished lets first wait until its released & finished until we decide.
There is 1 simple solution for all you haters here: don't buy the game. You're welcome 🙂
I thought it was watch dogs..
POV:you suck not rockstar it s in early developement so shut up
Both GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 has in its core been focused on a cinematic adventure that anyone can play. They are casual games so it attracts the wider market, hence their success. Their gunplay being simplistic is definetly a choice they make on purpose, and if you consider the people that play with way less experience in videogames it makes sense why. In what ways could they add layers to gunplay without complicating it for "the casuals"? Maybe a difficulty slider? If gunplay was complex but there was an option to play on easy it wouldnt hurt the mainstream audience as much. In any case, we've yet to see that in their games as it is a risky decision.
When it comes to the Rockstar's level design thats where they are lacking in excuses. Most missions they have are so heavily linear it limits creativity on a lot of them. I'd love to see the ability to complete missions in ways that are less obvious, and I don't think this would hurt the casual experience either since one may always play it through the "obvious correct path".
In any case, I still enjoy these games for their cool setpieces, immersion, and writing. I don't think I'm alone on this, and Rockstar knows that. The game will still be very enjoyable even with subpar simple gunplay.
However, I'm still worried GTA VI can fail, as its just a general consesus that videogames release half-finished in the modern game industry. Please never pre-order, be skeptical of what they show 😀
Edit: congrats on the algorithm promoting your video, I enjoyed it even if I disagreed with some aspects xd
Can’t wait to see u eat ur words in two years
this is one of the worst videos i have ever sat through
Well its just that devs use something called "placehoulders" which can be easily be used from a previous game to just test and make certain things works for the time, things like textures and stuff change like a 100 times during the devlopemnt cycle, even animations. I can trust rockstar for not making the game feel like gta5, because they know how to make a game feel different then others. no matter what game you play or look at from rockstar, you will be exactly able to tell the differenc between the 2, even the og trilogy had different lighting, feel, animations for it which fit well for the world. This is the thing they do with each of there games, gta4 feels different the 5 and rdr2 feels totaly different too. This is the reason why no matter how much ray traching rtx you put on it, no matter how many cities to mod into it, no matter it the main guy looks like tommy or cj, YOU CAN TELL, that its gta5, no matter how much anyone changes it, we can tell just by looking at it that yeah, thats gta5. and thats the reason I can trust rockstar. They might suck at manking online games, but when it comes to single player, only they themselfs can beat it.
You are fool
bro its 2022 not 2000
Lmao gta vi was on beta obviosly graphics are like that
The fact that you say RDR2 is the same with GTAV gameplay-wise makes me think you've either never played RDR2 or you're incredibly ignorant.
"GTA 6 will suck!"
~A random dude on Youtube
As a developer (not on GTA) it frustrates the FUCK out of me when people look at these leaks and trash the game.
It's EARLY FUCKING FOOTAGE!
It's using PLACEHOLDER ASSETS
A lot of the clips are TESTING IF MECHANICS WORK.
This is NOT representative of the final game, and never will be. Are people really THAT fucking stupid to even ASSUME a high budget game would release with placeholder materials and blockouts?
People need to CHILL THE FUCK OUT. Seriously. This is damaging to the developers who spend YEARS of their life, doing long shifts, to get these games out. It's demotivating. It's damaging. And it's downright disgusting that people trash things without understanding what the fuck they even are.
Rant over.
Have you even played RDR2?
My man you have no idea what you're talking about. For you (at least), GTAV and RDR2 may seem similar because up to now, GTA 5 does not have any competition and that is because it's Rockstar made, they go out of generations. Also what else would you expect from a cowboy game? It literally got more awards than the entire GTA franchise. Plus they are in 2 different time eras, you can't call that "similar"
Also, I don't like how you used gta 6 leaks as discussion, they are still in development and you can't judge them. Sure I get your point of R* releasing 2 games in the last decade, some part of it is because of GTAO, but making a game such as RDR2 made Rockstar to use crunch on their employees, the entire team was working on it.
Gta Trilogy definitive was made by GSG, not Rockstar ffs I probably said that a billion times.
Oh yeah, the reason why Cyberpunk was bad is because they started to actually developing it around 2016, from 2012 they only had the idea, so CDPR just kept doing fancy marketing
Great video, you summed everything up perfectly.
Lmao at all the internet white knights defending Rockstar, their comments make them all seem like unhinged religious zealots. "EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT BRA, JUST HAVE FAITH" "DO U HAVE NE IDEA WHAT IT TAKEZ TO MAKE A VIDYA GAME?!" 🤣 gotta love it when people defend soulless corporations who have no respect or regard for their fans. It's almost as if they think their opinions matter to anyone but themselves. Spoiler alert: they don't.
Oh please you don't know what you're talking about. GTA 6 is still in its early development stage. The footage you saw is from an unfinished version that was from few years ago. It's not what the final product is gonna look like. The game is gonna look amazing when it's finished. They're using Rage 9 which's the equivalent of Unreal Engine 5. Red Dead 2 certainly does not suck and it's not the same as GTA 5 while they're both great games regardless them milking GTA Online to death. You obviously don't know what you're talking about, don't know how games are made but jumping to conclusions. GTA 6 is already looking very promising and better than GTA 5 even in its early stage which probably won't be released until 2024.
So, if the main characters are in a relationship, I guess we won't have the dating mode or we won't be able to go to the strip joints?
Better mechanic yes better gameplay it just an improvement from the last one WHICH is a good think, man same controles doesn't mean same fucking game, nobody complained about call of duty being nearly the same as 2019 even with twice the budget or for never changing the jump button, RDR2 has way better movements than gta5, you just have to reduce the aim assist bullshit they stick with and it's ok