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This week we discuss:
0:00 ā Intro & the 911 Sport classic
4:40 ā Tony has already sold the M2
7:48 ā Tony on the āused car marketā
9:53 ā Singerās DLS 911ās selling for over 1 million
10:31 ā Tonyās Documentary on Electric vehicles
14:31 ā P1ās Synthetic fuels
16:13 ā The future of mobility/cars
24:55 ā Information overload in the automotive world
35:38 ā The Garage update!
49:07 ā Samās 10 year Anniversary on YouTube
53:28 ā Outro
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P8 – brilliant!
Gents, i'm booked in to the sept live in alexanders. What car you guys coming up in? Love to see a GT3 in person :D. Also let me know if you want a drive about the day before or the morning of the event,
Whatever the BBC is telling you about electric cars is all state propaganda. The good is not good, the bad is not nearly the extent of the bad. They only add some of the negativity to sound fair but they are not. The entire premise of the need for electric cars is a lie and has been a lie since early 1900s. The climate change fear mongering has been going on since at least early 1900s or even late 1800s and yet, none if it has been proven true but trillions of dollars have been spent on this transformation while it is blatantly a lie and detrimental to society and economy
Sam, no one is against innovation. What people are against is lies and propaganda pushing ridiculous mandates and laws on the public, especially when it's obvious to anyone who pays attention that it is all lies. There's a common theme here with everything synthetic vs natural. Meat vs fake meat, gas and oil vs electric and synthetic, big pharma vs natural immunity or other safe and proven measures, 2 God given genders vs whatever you decide in your mind, depopulation vs having babies, wild sexual party life vs traditional marriage, hard work vs entitlement, etc etc etc.
CS, GT3 and Project 8 would be PEAK STG garage. You've been talking about those cars for years, just do it!
Do you want to commit your tax to an unproven technology or should we let other countries commit their revenue until there is better technical clarity surrounding motive energy?
Sorry Tony…having a self sustaining UK food supply is a lot to do with geology, population density, Agro-economy and last and maybe not least, climate. Similarly our geology is also mainly responsible for steel, cement, Lithium (although Cornwall are having a crack at Lithium) and rare earth mineral imports all of which helps us understand why the UK is heavily services biased, exporting around Ā£500bn annually.
Well done Sam, in the past Iāve felt you have been too anti EV, agree completely with you here. We need to work together to fix the future of cars, which will be a mixture of solutions
can you plz do a f1 podcast but just yourself
If Ferrari made an electric SUV I'm sure you'd be offended.
I looovvveeee project 8
Iām a real petrol head but through my business was really tax efficient to run a electric vehicle and really surprised how much I enjoy it. Great as a second car but definitely not the future. Sam your right need to keep a open mind. A combination of electric/ petrol cars is probably the future
Cheeers!!!
Enough about EVās alreadyš”
Don't want to be a Debbie Downer on the Project 8 but I remember the RS6 being punted cause it was "too much" for a daily. IMO the P8 is a special occasion/weekend/road trip kinda car, not something to poodle up the M40 in.
Love for Sam to prove me wrong though.
As someone who massively appreciates cars, I think we all need to get a lot more realistic about alternative modes of transport. Most people can cycle distances under 10 miles for personal journeys. Let's start there. Cars should become what the horse is now, or for use in remote locations.
Very different Porsche market in the US. Is it as strong as it was? No. But, I live in a big city and there's not a new 911 on the lot on any dealership.. There are some used, almost zero mile consignment cars. But, no 'new' cars anywhere, maybe in the entire country.
A left hooker as your daily? Won't that get really old really quickly?
Ya better do a live Podcast in Brisbane mate! Look forward to hearing the details š
Tony, I have the 992 RS, itās ridiculously good! This is THE car!!
Sam, my inside windscreen keeps going dirty, foggy!!!? 992 RS
I love Tonyās first question. Sam didnāt see that coming. šš
Project 8 with Harry M. Have a drive.
You guys are a broken record at this point.
Donāt know why you address the ābashingā and then crap out half a episode bashing EV ā¦.. again
Gosh ā¦ I love you guys but this part on the future of the automobile is underwhelming to say the least.
Boys enough with the EV FUD, there is more than enough Lithium to go around, Australia alone could supply the amount of Lithium needed.
All these so called problems are BS that has been dispelled over and over again.
All new technologies have teething problems when they are scaling.
What you need to understand is in the future we won't be manufacturing as many cars, it won't be a 1 to 1 swap new for old.
Autonomous vehicles are coming which means a lot of people who aren't car fanatics won't even want to own a car.
They will just pay a small monthly subscription fee and any time they need to go somewhere a driverless car will just pick them up drop them off and then head off to pick up the next person.
Also as charging gets faster and faster batteries will get smaller and smaller, by 2025 you will charge an EV in 5min so there is no need for a 100kwh battery like we see now.
Love the show, big Tony fanboy, want to see him out doing more track days.
Synthetic fuels AKA greenwashing by the fossil fuel industry.
It's like sweeping all the dirt and crud from around your house under the rug and pretending it's gone.
Just like carbon capture which hasn't worked at any usable scale anywhere in the world.
Another super expensive white elephant pushed by the big oil and gas lobbyists.
Electrification is coming and we will all be the better for it.
Clean fresh air to breath and less noise pollution.
PS:The first Ford car was electric.
Sell the 360 and get a CS
You are in high genocide country and soon to be written off country! Uk, usa is the what normal people with brain and self thinking call the past! The future is.. well you will not know!
The ban isnāt being moved. It would be catastrophic for the car industry by creating uncertainty. Michael Gove has said the ban āimmovableā and the car manufacturers donāt want it either. SMMT has spoken about this extensively.
Itās purely small minded car fans that want this. Thatās it.
Another good one. I don't think it's just the Electre people slag off. Shmee was saying he gets negative comments about the Emira which he wasnt expecting. I think we have to accept there is alot of ignorant people out there and alot of them tend to be trolling the car space. I'm sure we can make the combustion engine cleaner as well as just go electric. The major manufacturers have ploughed billions in making the majority of their ranges electric and I'm sure they were assured by world governments that the infrastructure would be there for them and are probably now deeply frustrated with their sales sliding after all their efforts.
Ā£3 grand a month for the Ferrari and Tony is able to just decide whether or not he feels like it.. I donāt even make Ā£3 grand a monthā¦ maybe you two could give us young-uns some financial advice because I canāt even imagine how I could earn that kind of money right now!
Shame about the F Type, lurrrrvved that car!! š¢. Interesting though to see how you get on in the F Pace?? Thinking about purchasing a Macan GTS, to replace our really bad experience of a Maserati Grecale Trofeo ā¦.. looong story. Iād love to get into a F Pace SVR, but hubby not keen šš£
Should be buying a project 24. That would keep the wife happy too !
Lithium is the 25th most abundant element on the earth, so your assertion that itās rare is factually incorrect. The pinch point is in lithium refining, processing and manufacturing capacity. In the 1970ās the U.K. and USA had no interest in lithium refining, processing or indeed battery production despite warnings from think tanks and academics of the ascending critical importance of the element and its processing. Successive governments were happy to see battery infrastructure and production expertise snapped up by China, look how that turned out. So, the western governments have realised that battery research, development and production is sort of important. Now the Biden administration has deemed the dominance of China in this area is a threat to USA national security when it was the Americans that willingly let that industry die on its feet in the USA in the late 1970ās. Although Tesla are investing in lithium mining and their own battery production, they have moved the bulk of there batteries to Iron phosphate bases. Nickel will be the limiting factor in a couple of years. I can see why you are interested in synthetic fuels as a possible alternative to fossil fuels. But, just like Hydrogen fuels for cars, the manufacturing of such fuels use vast amounts of electricity to manufacture, process and store. And thatās before transport! So synthetic fuels that cost Ā£55 per litre/ Ā£250 per gallon will remain the preserve of the rich and well to do.
We have a party in charge of the country that is funded by the big oil and gas companies, no wonder they wont invest in electric car infrastructure. They just want to say what the media want to hear, theyāre not backing it at all behind closed doors.
If you're getting rid of the 360, give me a shout! Looking for a smart manual 360 with miles so it's not too precious.
That will be the perfect moment to get the CS. 10 years! 2024 is going to be a great year for STG.
Getting very dull car wise on this channel just retirement cars. Bring back the Alfa Romeo 4C.
Project 8 š¢