Enterprise E/F and Titan's Origins Lore Revealed



Star Trek Picard season 3 introduces a new hero ship for us, the USS Titan NCC-80102-A and also the fate of the Enterprise E is referenced in some new lore logs. Including some surprising news regarding the Odyssey class Enterprise F…

00:00 Introduction
00:34 USS Titan 2290
01:46 Captain Saavik?
02:38 First Titan’s Role
03:33 USS Titan 2379
04:31 USS Titan-A 2402
05:35 New or Refit
07:26 Enterprise-E
08:56 Enterprise-F
10:05 Thoughts

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37 thoughts on “Enterprise E/F and Titan's Origins Lore Revealed”

  1. Don't like the Titan-A, looks like a bad kitbash. Design doesn't flow with Starfleets design lineage; You can see how the succeeding Enterprises evolved from one to the next. How does this ship fit into the fleet? Looks like a few big steps backwards. And its ugly.

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  2. I don't love the "neo" class refit. It's not an homage, it's laziness and lack of courage to showcase a new design.
    And can someone please explain how god-awful Mirandas can run for 150 years while Sovereign and Galaxy somehow age like an avocado?

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  3. So my guess is, we won't be seeing the none other Enterprise G til Season 3 Ending. And my guess is, we will probably be getting a new captain, crew and more than likely CBS making a BRAND NEW show around the new captain and crew of the Enterprise.

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  4. 16 years life span for a ship hell people have cars older than that most starships seem to have a 100+ year life span with continuing refits and upgrade so it make no sense for the E or even the F to have ridiculous short life spans unless there was major flaws with these ships "like it being made out of explodium" and even then most governments would still us it look at the Russian Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov its a old soviet era relic that needs a tugboat to help it all the time but Russia keeps it because it got no choice

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  5. I don't like this idea that they took the frame of the Shangri-La, a ship that would have been in mothballs for a century and Starfleet decided to rebuild a new starship on top of such a old space frame. The first reason is that ship building has advanced so much in over 100 years that the frame itself would be antiquated, especially since it was designed for a much slower warp scale and stresses that modern starships are designed to withstand. I don't mind them having decided to upgrade the Constitution class to the 25th century, taking older ideas and modernizing them would make sense, especially if the time period they are in is one of conflict and you want to put out starships to fill the gaps.

    Also I have to disagree that the Constitution 3 is a explorer, you don't need 6 impulse engines for a explorer. You need that much maneuverability on a fast response or warship. A explorer doesn't need all that maneuverability as it's main purpose is to explore and you can't do that going fast. Look as other explorer class ships, the Galaxy had 3 impulse engines, one on the drive section and 2 on the saucer section, this made sense since the Galaxy class was so large.

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  6. I don't like it….
    It's bittersweet.
    Like, they're acknowledging the Ent F, and it's legacy.
    But they're also immediately trashing it to make something new.
    It's like Papa-Trek is just saying, "Oh that's adorable…" and then hanging the our Ent F drawing (in crayon) on the fridge.
    Present, but also discarded.
    The part about Saavik becoming unofficial Captain after her pregnancy is neat.

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  7. What i find hilarious (sad, but hilarious) is that the shows set in the "present day" of the franchise get ships that look like they should be in a TOS movie and the prequels / side-dimensionals get ships that look like they're from the 25th century. It makes no sense. None of this makes sense. Lower Decks seems to be the only one with the head screwed on right.

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  8. In story telling you don't produce an object unless you plan to use it. Enterprise-F being decommisioned into a museum. That museum being run by non-other than LaForge. Mentions of automation. A new ship and a captain that resembles Captain Styles of the ST3 fame. HHmm the possibilities are endless really. I just wonder if the Enterprise-F can be run by a chimpanzee and two trainees?

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  9. I like Bill’s design. I know Terry likes it. That’s why he chose it… but really it’s getting a bit convoluted. While I haven’t seen E2-10. It seems that even story wise, it would make more sense for Riker’s Titan to be on her final voyage and that that’s how she comes into the show. Anywho… What they’ve done with it is a bit unnecessary kinda like the what they did with Borg computer virus when they could have simply used the plot point from Cause and Effect. Anywho…

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  10. The excelsior was life when people bought appliances and kept them running and repaired when needed (greatest generation).The galaxy/sovereign/luna are the get a shiny new one and throw the old away (boomers), and the new cobbled together classes are the nostalgia obsessed 35 yo people buying brand new products that look retro (millennials). As a Gen X, I’m as usual lumped in between two larger groups and don’t quite like either one.

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  11. I don’t like the news. I don’t like the Odyssey Class was introduced so close to the Sovereign Class. It diminishes how good the Sovereign is suppose to be, I mean, why make the Odyssey so quickly instead of more Sovereigns. And I guess the og Connie Enterprise must be an exception Enterprise name. That ship lasted 40 years!

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  12. I'm confused. The Captain of the Titan referred to being in command for 5 years and by the dialog Riker was the Captain before him. Also they are very specific that the ship is a refit to neo constitution. So I don't understand how this backstory of the Titan fits.

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  13. The Odyssey has always been one of my favorite STO designs, and for the writers to bring it in only to decommission it feels like a massive copout. They could've just as easily made it the -E with the same story and it would probably be more thematically appropriate for the show, considering this season is supposed to be the TNG's sendoff.

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  14. it took me a bit to think about it, but it can quite easely explained with the F in STO: it got mothballed and brought back in time of need, like the Iowa-Class, they also did not had that many years of service life.
    I can see the F in a similar State than the TOS-Enterprise at the beginning of ST.3 but only that she was a 40 Year old Ship, with new shiny ships waiting to be launched AND the Federation in a different State and put her into Reserve, maybe because they focused on building new ships instead of repairing older ones

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  15. why would a puny ship like this new titan be the flagship? sure there are other larger and more capable ships in the fleet. Also it might be a momentary tradition of sorts to make the enterprise the flag ship, but it is not a given.

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  16. I just don’t buy this excuse for lack of innovation. It’s like the navy today, using parts or design from WWI. It just wouldn’t happen. I can understand a game doing it as it helps them quickly build “new” ship designs but for the TV show, I personally don’t like it and think it’s just plain stupid and lazy.

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  17. Retrofitted Ships = We love the Classic Movie design asthetic and wanted to go back to that, despite not making a lick of sense.
    Missions Classified = We wanted a new Enterprise but couldn't be bothered to come up with a reason for the previous one's short life.

    Unless other ships are immediately lost the first time they encounter something dangerous, this proves Riker's "Fate protects ships called Enterprise" is a load of bollocks.

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  18. My understanding was there was no original Luna class components in this new hull and it was simply a brand new space frame. Makes more sense given the -A registry rather than a refit, and it’s more a kitbashed Constitution III

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