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How is the print quality between the Saturn 3 ultra and the Mars 4 ultra? I have a couple Saturn 3 ultras (thanks to you!) and I was wondering if its worth getting a Mars 4, A: because I sometimes want to print smaller things, and B: because the its got a screen with slightly higher resolution.
EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't watched the video through to the very end where you say the print quality on the Saturn 3 Ultra is a little better than the Mars 4 ultra. No point I getting a Mars 4 ultra then, unless it's just for printing smaller parts. Probably not worth it just for that.
Thank you again for the videos.
Great review as always!
Definitely shows the difference between the Saturn and Mars. Both in specs, performance and quality!
So the Saturn 3 Ultra is still (one of) the best options out there? I might consider a bigger printer than my Sonic Mini 4k in the future 🙂
Thanks, as always. Finally hit that subscribe button!
the Satern is a good printer, and if I were buying a new printer of that size i would do that one over the one I did buy. ( m5s) that being said my m5s is working well with the nFep.
Like it's been said, I think we have reached the limit on human perception, being able to tell the difference between 18 and 20 micron screens just isn't doing it. I think companies are having a real hard time innovating beyond "new fancy screen". The next jump will hopefully be in ease of use and convenience. The features like auto-leveling, fail detection, bed heating, are all going to help people get into the hobby while also being a more convenient experience for veteran printers.
I upgraded from my mini8k to the mars4 ultra. I can noticeable see a big difference in print quality. I did change the screen to nfep. I really didn't have a problem with the texture the other screen was producing. Will probably switch back to see if i still feel that way. It so much faster to print as well. The absolute thing that I feel in love with was the wireless transfer.. i will never go back..its the shizzz. All priters should include this feature.
I've had my original Saturn since launch and never once had to re level the thing
Drinking game for the suicidal. Take a shot every time he says Great.
Your resin might be better but it is not wildly available. I am still waiting for it to be released in other EU countries.
On my saturn 2, there's a glass screen protector that needs the gasket thing removed to get access to it, so possibly the same with these printers. Have you the link for the USB drives, as I couldn't find them after your other video.
Still waiting for next year's round of printers.
you are so correct on just about everything. Especially the VOC thing. Tiny charcoal filters will never help VOC – you need massive volumes of airflow into massive filtration systems (comparitively speaking to the printer size) to actually do anything about the VOCs. It is far easier, and cheaper, to just vent them outside. A flexiduct and a large, high pressure fan will do the trick.
I actually sat down and looked at each point, and imagined if i would use them 'every print' – 'every other print' or 'rarely on a print' – and … honestly the Ultra to me is the way to go. I am still holding out on my first resin as I don't have the real ability to yet (fumes need taken care of, low ventilation area and VOC don't mix well) so maybe a slightly better unit will arrive before I actually buy – but it seems to be the one I aim for, and to be honest there's so little for me to actually expect better – it comes down to 'nice to haves'.
Things like – a resin auto-dispenser system where the bottle is upside down and gently flows resin in to keep it topped off. (seen on other systems) – or a vat warmer, to heat up the resin to it's best curing temperatures. (this may or may not be achieved by turning the vat into a heat sink for the other parts as well, possibly eliminating the need for a fan) or slightly larger build volumes, while retaining the roughly 25 micron excellent print detail. (+/- a few microns, doesn't really matter to me) and of course a vat with a tapered edge to make pouring excess out easier, and more controlled, for when it's time to change colors or types.
But these are all literally just 'nice to haves" and not "musts" – the Ultra… seems to be by far the best resin printer out right now, at it's price point. +/- $100 USD.
I got the vat and clear film for my Ultra. Along with clear replacements for the vat that came with it. So now two vats both with clear film.
While I'm posting, is there any chance you will be making your resin available here in the US?
For the YT algorithm!!! Nice review.
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DON’T level with resin loaded in the machine. That’s bad practice, just don’t do it.
Just get sunlu abs resin. High precision, durable and cheap!
I've got a Mars 3 and just got a Saturn 2 and I'm using the standard Elegoo Gray. The mars on .035 (figures) and .05 (bases/terrain) works perfectly and gives me more detail than I can paint and see from a foot away. The Saturn 2 – well got it dialed in (I'm pretty sure I did) and got it running with the first batch – 4 mounted barbarians. Seems to be working fine and I'm doing .03 for the layers.
I agree on a bigger build plate – I've printed some dragons on the Mars they're in pieces. On the Saturn – they should fit all at once and some 2 at once.
I have the 4 ultra, TBH the fep thing is totally irrelevant, it's going to be replaced at some time, so I have no idea why it's even a second thought, never mind the big issue you appear to have with it.
The fep is a consumable just like the resin and IPA, you choose what resin and fep to use in order to suit your own needs – irrespective of that which came with the printer.
The only issue I have had is with the WiFi, and I think that is more to do with Tango!
Every so often, Tango can't find the printer, checking the network and attached devices, and the mars 4 ultra (with a fixed ip address) is always there with 192.x.x.24 in my case.
Removing and reinstalling Tango, and magically it reappears!
And yes, the move/rotate within Tango is too clunky, but overall, it does supports and so many other things better than cbox or lychee out of the box – let's face it, there isn't perfect software out there.
Great
(Felt I need to add the great, as if it's obligatory)
Imagine having print fails from a tenth of a second exposure time. Cool feature but what?
Quick question Ross. Would you still consider the GK2 as the King of the Hill when comparing its print quality to these new Ultra Elegoo ones?
Great videos btw, keep it up!!
I am still unsure. I wanted the mars 4 ultra but its so weird that the saturn 3 ultra makes the better quality although the resolution of the mars 4 is better.
I'm 90% sure the screen protector is under the black tape. Since replacement protectors aren't on Elegoo's website, I assume you just take the tape and protector off, then replace the whole lot with something aftermarket.
Still using the same bloody irritating stock footage, haven't a clue why as I assume it costs you money to use footage of randos shrugging.
It may not be a big deal but it makes me grind my teeth every time I see it.
It's hackneyed and cheesy.
weird, why would a screen protector even be mounted under the screen, that would seem….pointless?
As always FauxHammer pointing out items of concern greatly appreciate your channel. Thanks.
Amazing video!
it would be cool to compare these to the Sonic Mighty upgrade, 😀 I read it is 19 micron and haven't seen many people covered the upgrade!