Dog DNA testing kits: How accurate are they? (Marketplace)



Curious about what breed your dog is? You’re not alone. Dog DNA testing kits are soaring in popularity. Marketplace recruits several dogs and puts four companies to the test to see which ones are worth the cost and most accurate.

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43 thoughts on “Dog DNA testing kits: How accurate are they? (Marketplace)”

  1. It’s almost like none of the dog parents know how dog DNA works. All dogs have like 99% the same DNA and different breeds have markers for things like hair color, hair type, hair texture, eye color, weight etc that would be specific to their breed. They then take that and compare it against their sample size of dogs they have already tested and…well they guess.

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  2. with the street dogs you adopt from turkey etc, there are NO purebred dogs on the streets going back centuries, every dog is a mutt… i'm not sure what someone would expect to find in getting a DNA test for a street dog like that, but getting "village dog" is not a disappointing result

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  3. Basically their services are a waste of money. Unless you're 99% sure of your dog's pure lineage. But you have a mutt, then it's a waste of money and time. haha. i still love my mutt regardless of his lineage.

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  4. I say get a dog to love and care for them regardless of if you know what breed they are. Mutts are just a loveable as a purebred dog. They probably have less chance if genetic disease because they're not as inbred.

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  5. I used Embark on my girl, she is supposed to be purebred and came back as a mix and her daughter came back as a mix too but not from the same breeds lol So wrong!!! Thank you for the video.

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  6. I’m extremely disappointed in this broadcast. Embark was 3 for 3 here and your reporter misrepresented this information. The village dog results were indeed accurate and Embark’s response/explanation was valid. The reporter clearly didn’t comprehend the explanation and instead of getting further clarity he dismissed it. He also allowed the owners of the village dogs to walk away disappointed and equally misinformed. Marketplace owes Embark an apology.

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  7. I would not agree that village dog is a bad result. It definitely shows the region of origin, and it could mean something for someone adopting a dog with no history. But knowing the exact breed would be better for sure.

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  8. This broadcast should have explained the difference between a breed and a landrace. The adopted dogs are landraces, which EmBark appeared to correctly identify (I'm not a customer nor plan to be). Dog breeds are relatively modern categories created by inbreeding and marketing. You never know with a landrace, but quite possibly they will be healthier dogs with longer lives.

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  9. Just to set the record straight, Embark makes it 100% transparent in their DNA results that village dogs aren't a breed whatsoever. It's more of a generic grouping of Dogs that have ancestry that pre-dates modern purebreds.

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  10. This episode of marketplace was fun but could have been done better. I don't think the owners going "uh uh no way" and "village dog isnt a real breed!" is a good indication of a tests accuracy. I do like that you spoke to a geneticist who is a specialist in dogs I just wish we were able to hear extensively her opinion on each result in detail. It also would have made for a very interesting video if you took the opportunity to ask her about things like the pit-bull apartment ban or her opinion on the village dog results.

    Also when comparing the results of companies, I don't think you should change the order half way through. It makes it hard to follow and I actually thought embark gave the 100% chihuahua result and one of the non 'test-failed' results. Im actually reassured to see that at least one of the companies is at least consistent.

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  11. The disregarding of the street dog result feels weirdly ignorant of other cultures/Geographics of domesticated dog. Good for Embark if they're doing the work to learn about something as undocumented as street dogs from the middle east. If you had done a test on a stray adopted from the US, you might actually pick up those registered breeds. The dogs came from Kuwait and Istanbul, this feels like sloppy reporting. What percent of the population adopts rescues that aren't local?

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  12. Did the company that claimed "100 % Chihuahua" even look at the photo of the Great Dane, let alone the DNA sample? Why ask for a photo in the first place if they aren't even using it to minimally help identify a dog breed? Is there a human being working for this company? Does this human know what "a dog" even is? If AI is handling this, absent human presence, it must be out of whack. Sorry, but this is a complete and total sack of 🐕💩 rip off!!!

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  13. This takes a bit of science to understand what's going on. When they do breed testing, they don't sequence each dog's entire genome, they just sequence a number of spots along the DNA called single nucleotide polymorphisms or SNPs, which are random spots along the genome that may or may not have a mutation and they don't match any specific trait like fur color or size or anything like that. SNPs are useful because they're not under any kind of selective pressure, they just vary randomly, like a fingerprint written in binary code, and that means they're better at showing how related different breeds are. So what they have is like looking at a secret binary language or encryption that you need a cipher to figure out. When they gather DNA from known breeds they are building a cipher for that specific breed. Embark and Wisdom Panel have been competing for both the number of breeds (ciphers) they have and for how much DNA they test (SNPs) and that number varies year to year so I couldn't tell you which is better right now. Wisdom generally has more breeds and Embark more SNPs normally so that's why they can each claim they're "the best." They're looking at different metrics. The more SNPs a company tests, the more reliable the test results are, and the more dog breed ciphers they have, the more likely they are to pick up a rare breed instead of confusing it for a different breed. If they are missing a cipher, as Wisdom is with village dogs, then it's more likely for the DNA secret code to match the wrong cipher. They used to just categorize this as "unknown" DNA. My mutt dog is 50% unknown breed with Wisdom and 10% unknown with Embark but I tested her years ago.

    One point of confusion I saw was where the breed didn't match an AKC breed. The AKC doesn't have every single breed in the world on the list, just the breeds that people in the US own and show in their dog shows. So if you adopt an international stray dog, it's more likely to not match up with a familiar breed. All of the breeds we have in the world come from humans selectively breeding dogs together to get those breeds. But in some rural parts of the world, there are groups of dogs that have been breeding together naturally for thousands of years. They're dogs without a breed. They're not even mixed breeds because they don't share recent ancestry with any purebred dog. They're just village dogs as Embark showed. That's really cool by itself, these pet owners have dogs that aren't a breed or a mixed breed, they're village dogs and that's something unique.

    Another misconception I saw was when the owners were noting that their dog looked nothing like the breed predictions. For their dogs, it was because the breed was actually wrong since they were village dogs. But with mixed-breed dogs in general, it's pretty random what traits they get from their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. You can have a dog that is 10% chihuahua and weighs 90 ibs and looks nothing like a chihuahua. You can have a dog that is half xolo and it has a full coat of hair because it got a hair gene from its other parent.

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  14. SO now because I am a man I cannot do a better job and get paid more? FIGHT for higher wages… STOP IMMIGRATION… then wages RISE… with A FLOOD of immigration comes cheap labour!!

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  15. CBC failed to mention that the Xoloitzcuintle has both the hairless and coated variety in the breed. When two hairless dogs breed, 33% of the litter will still be born with a coat.

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  16. If you got your dog off the street in a random asian village do you really think he'll have a purebred ancestor? I think people forget (don't know?) that breeds are a modern human invention, dogs didn't start out separated into breeds and start mixing up themselves

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  17. I used Wisdom Panel (no connection) for my dog. He is a rescue and was sold to me as a German Shepherd. I have had German Sheps all my adult life and I strongly suspected he was a Malinois cross. His results came back as 62% GSD and 38% Malinois. I did not provide any information to the company (no photo or details about him at all). I was very happy with the accuracy of the results. I wonder if the results are more accurate when there are less mixes of different breeds?

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  18. I have done about 10 DNA my dog tests on my personal and foster dogs. I never give photos, or suspected breed information. All of them including the pure breeds have come back as reasonable .

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  19. Well now we know this was all BS., big time. We did one on our dog with Wisdom Panel now I don't believe any of it. I did one of myself for humans of course and my friend who is a scientist said those are not very accurate because it would take months up to a year in some cases to get a true DNA profile panel if you had to break it down on a human. So wasted money two times on a scam.

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  20. I bought one of these tests for my son and daughter-in-law's dog, a genuine mutt we've always been curious about. They were going through a rough, stressful time and I wanted to get them a treat, hence a Wisdom Panel test. Clyde looks like a "one of each" kind of mutt, with character traits of several muscular, very active types. Well, he had a very long list of results, nearly all herding breeds, everything from cattle dog to kelpie to border collie. Then, some oddball things like catahoula hound, American Indian dog, Siberian husky and more. The one thing we all agreed he would be was part Lab, but that wasn't on the list. Anyway, it was a very long list and highly entertaining, so I think for them it was worth it. I won't tell them it's probably baloney – same as the "nationality" ones for people. 😂

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