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Fast & furious Doctor Who news, all lined up on the starting grid this week for our panel of Time Lords to flag down and jump on: bringing you our takes on the stories taking the lead as Doctor Who races towards a bold new era. Both on and off screen…
We’ll be looking at the fallout from the closing minutes of The Power of the Doctor! The very first footage from the NEXT series and both the 14th and 15th Doctors. And regular companions will know we love to talk logos so we’ll be all over the new branding, unveiled earlier in the week.
Be sure to join us in the LIVE comment section, on YouTube and Facebook to share your thoughts on all of that. PLUS there’s another entry in the Doctor Who Diary and that fan-favourite Type 40 Ad Break. All from 8pm UK time, this Thursday!
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RTD
60 episodes of Doctor Who
41 episodes of Torchwood
53 episodes of The Sarah Jane Adventures
2 Animations
Doctor Who Confidential
Torchwood Declassified
Totally Doctor Who
And various Behind the Scenes shows
Plus helping Big Finish
Moff
84 episodes of Doctor Who
8 episodes of Class
Doctor Who Confidential
Various mini red button/online episodes
And various Behind the Scenes shows
Plus 13 episodes of Sherlock
Chibs
31 episodes of Doctor Who
And various Behind the Scenes shows
Just imagine what RTD will do now.
Fabulous show! Thanks, Dan, JT, Sarah, Charlotte, Simon and Ian. It's a joy being a part of the fun and the frolics on Type 40 Live. Thanks, too, to everyone in the chat.
I pity the poor designer who has to come up with a new logo to replace the diamond one. If anything, I think they'll probably change the colour from blue to multiple colours. Another total rebranding so soon wouldn't sit well with the licensees.
In the 1960s, didn't Disney buy the film rights to Marco Polo, intending to make a movie but without the Doctor in it? Maybe, just maybe, if they dig around in their paperwork, Disney will find that they bought copies of all seven episodes, that are sitting there now waiting to be found in their archive. I can dream.
I love that diamond logo and i'm glad they brought it back funny enough i got that logo sticker for my laptop over a month ago before the announcement i also hope this is for Ncuti's new era and not just for the 60th.
As much as i'm happy to see David Tennant back i still think they brought him back for fan service and desperation i just don't see him as a new incarnation i only see him as 10 calling him the 14th Doctor feels abit weird but that's just me but i'm looking forward to the Ncuti Doctor i'll have to get use to calling him 15.
I agree with Simon, Ian and some of the guys in the comments i don't trust Disney i think they will try to take advantage and get complete control but i'll give it a chance see how it goes but i hope they don't make it too american and ruin the story because i agree this is the last chance salloon for the show and i hope they don't screw it up.
They also..and i hope Russell is reading this but i doubt he is why would he lol but i hope he gets The Doctor off earth more and go to alien planets and no more of these 21st century earth council estates because that story has been done and dusted and i just want to see more alien planets, The Doctor fighting Daleks and Monsters and make it very Classic series like but with a bigger budget.
What a great show, thank you Zippy, Dan and panel. Type 40 back to it's best.
Less than 48 hours after the Whittaker/Chibnall era came to an end, the BBC reveals the new Doctor Who logo and starts using it! This must be some kind of record! Has an era ever been swept aside and brushed under the carpet with such haste? I think not. I bet Chris and Jodie are so proud!
Despite enjoying it, the story itself was utter nonsense, right down to the title. The script was pretty dire… two of the things I dislike the most in modern Who are lines like "Tag…" contemporary pop culture references and the use of pop music (like Boney M… you would never see a classic Master putting on a disco record and having a dance). OK, it's humour, but I don't watch Doctor Who for such commercial humour. The whole thing felt like the kind of games you played in the playground as a kid, where all the monsters arrive in one OTT story. For me, it would have worked much better without the Daleks or Cybermen (neither have been used well since 2005). What really made it worthwhile for me was seeing Sophie, Janet, Peter, Colin and Sylvester. THAT was a big surprise, and I haven't felt so emotional at Doctor Who in decades… so many nice moments offering a sense of closure. But Colin being given a little screen time as the Doctor once again meant more to me than I could put into words here. And we cheered when Tennant turned up at the end.
That diamond logo IS Doctor Who. That one, and the previous Pertwee one have stood the test of time; solid designs with longevity. Bringing it back if just for the anniversary makes perfect sense.
In the words of Walter White concerning what RTD has in mind, "I'm not in the money making business, I'm in the empire business".
My view on Chris Chibnall is that yes, he is a product of 1980s post-DWAS fandom, but he was also limited in which old companions he could bring in as there are not many earth-based candidates left, and a lot of the actors who played them are no longer with us. So selecting Ace and Tegan may well have come down to convenience, and yes, that Chibnall was fond enough of them that he felt he could make them work on the screen as a pair.
I watched some of those scenes on you-tube and they brought genuine tears to my eyes, beautifully staged scenes, and played with such conviction by all concerned. These scenes with the old Doctors and veterans like Sophie Aldred and Janet Fielding go hand in hand with the success of Bradley Walsh in series 11 – all of these old faces are experienced and capable character actors, nearly all of them arrest the screen when they are on, in a way Jodie Whittaker and Mandip Gill cannot.
Paul McGann and David Bradley in particular made the absolute best of every slim second that they were on that screen – I wanted to see more, far more!
But did the story need these old faces? You can make an argument either way – I think personally that it was a mistake for Chris Chibnall to pump all of this into this final story, a mistake in the sense that he really needed to address his own plot-lines and wrap at least some of them up to allow his successor a relatively clean slate to pick up, also to reward his loyal audience who stayed the course with him and had the right to see some closure on these plots and questions.
My belief is that the liklihood is that all of these things Chris Chibnall set up came from existing ideas – The Cartmel Masterplan, the Morbius Doctors, Season 6b and so one. These are ideas that were around and being discussed in the late 1980s when he was active in the fandom, and because he is a writer who struggles for ideas he picked up these old ones that he remembered from his days as a fan. The thing is though these pilfered ideas were all just that – ideas. The Cartmel Masterplan was always just an idea, an open-ended idea, Same goes with the Morbius Doctors, just an idea that was floated way back in 1976. Chibnall is (or can be) actually quite good when working from a brief, when he wrote my favourite of his stories – The Hungry Earth – he was updating Malcolm Hulke's 1970 story. That is what The Hungry Earth is – a modernised rewrite of 'Doctor Who and the Silurians'.
That he can do extremely well, as it is a brief that already exists as a template script, all he has to do is rewrite it for a modern take.
Where he fails, and we have seen it with his three seasons in charge, is that he doesn't have a brief. No script editor or creative partner like Moffatt or Davies to guide him. It's all now on him. And because he has so little imagination, and no ideas of his own, he is looking into the work of his predecessors and picking out 'bits', pilfering scenes and visuals for his own use. And this is how you get stories like The Battle for Ras Al Khovoos, or The Power of the Doctor… patchwork stories that are stitched together from many different parts of past stories.
I strongly suspect that the reason he didn't tie up his Ruth-Doctor, Timeless Child, or the Fobwatch ideas, is because all he ever had was the ideas , not the answers . And this is the result of not just a lack of any imagination of his own, but in lifting ideas from the past that were only ever… ideas. Incomplete ideas, Chris Chibnall couldn't develop these ideas, because they aren't even his ideas to begin with…. and his predecessors didn't supply the answers to these off-the-cuff (and abandoned) ideas….
It surprises me just how fast he and Bad Wolf moved – Davies announced his return just before series 13 aired, 24 Sept 2021, David Tennant and Catherine Tate are announced as returning in May 2022, filming starts not long after that… that's quite amazing, to start writing scripts, set up new Production departments at Bad Wolf Studio's, begin casting, and all the things that go with production, they had to have been planning this at breakneck speed.
I can see why Davies sought out Phil Collinson, and members of the Production team left behind by BBC Wales after the studio's there ceased production on Doctor Who – he would need as many experienced and skilled people as he could find if he was to hit the ground running like this and start shooting in the Summer.
It has also been becoming clear that the reasons behind Davies' return to the series is due to Bad Wolf's relationship with Sony, and the negotiated deal with Disney. I suspect that Bad Wolf approached the BBC with an offer involving Disney and Sony, and the BBC obviously jumped at it in light of the flat response Doctor Who was receiving under Chris Chibnall and Jodie Whittaker. Davies is such a huge force in British television that, like Steven Moffatt, he carves his own fortunes and cuts his own deals. Moffatt is executive Producer on a major new streaming show starring Peter Capaldi – it is being heavily advertised here in the UK, particularly on the radio stations, and like Davies Moffatt is able to step into projects involving the streaming channels at will.
It's something that Chris Chibnall can't emulate, as he simply isn't on their level of success. After Doctor Who he will be waiting a very long time to ever get opportunities like they do for streaming projects. He will be going to British broadcaster like ITV and the BBC hoping to interest them in material on the back of his success on Broadchurch – his work on Doctor Who won't come into it… it was five long years that almost certainly cost him a great deal in terms of his career and reputation as a capable creative force.