With the Israel-Palestine conflict dominating the news, Spartacus and Sebastian bring you an in depth look at its history. It’s a millennia long story beginning in the time of the Crusades and culminating in Israeli independence and war with its Arab neighbours. Now more than ever an even-handed look at this story is vital.
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Hosted by: Spartacus Olsson & Sebastian Brandstetter
Director: Astrid Deinhard
Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson
Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson
Creative Producer: Marek Kamiński
Community Management: Ian Sowden
Written by: Spartacus Olsson & Sebastian Brandstetter
Research by: Spartacus Olsson & Sebastian Brandstetter
Editing, Color Grading and Map Animations by: Simon J. James
Artwork and color grading by: Mikołaj Uchman
Sound design by: Marek Kamiński
Select Bibliography:
Interesting Sources
-“Terror Out of Zion: Fight for Israeli Independence” Bell, J. Bowyer. Routledge, 2017.
-“The Land Beyond Promise: Israel, Likud and the Zionist Dream” Shindler, Colin. I.B. Tauris, 1995.
United Nations. ‘Part I (1917-1947)’.
-“Question of Palestine.” https://www.un.org/unispal/history2/origins-and-evolution-of-the-palestine-problem/part-i-1917-1947/.
-“The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and the Turkish Republic” Stanford J. Shaw. New York: New York University Press.
-“Geographical and Socioeconomic Factors in the 1881 Anti-Jewish Pogroms in Russia” I. Michael Aronson Source: The Russian Review, Jan., 1980, Vol. 39, No. 1 (Jan., 1980),
-“Palestine: Immigration and Ideology in the Early Twentieth Century” Alroey, Gur. / Galveston In American Jewish Archives Journal. 2004; Vol. 56.
-“Der Judenstaat [The Jewish State]” (1896),
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/25282/pg25282-images.html
-“Ahad Ha’am: Nationalist with a Difference” Kohn, Hans in Smith, Gary (ed.): Zionism: The Dream and the Reality (New York, Harper and Row, 1974),
-“1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War.” Morris, Benny. Ukraine, Yale University Press.
-“The War for Palestine: Rewriting the History of 1948.” Rogan EL, Shlaim A, eds. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press; 2007. doi:10.1017/CBO9781139167413
-“Nazi Resettlement Policy and the Search for a Solution to the Jewish Question, 1939-1941” Browning, Christopher R. .
https://doi.org/10.1515/9783110970470-020.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the video, and even laughed at some of the absurd attempts at pronunciations 😂
One thing I would add, at 1:12:47 to 1:13:03, you state a fact about the 'longest unresolved refugee crisis', and I feel you missed an opportunity to have provided more context – specifically the differentiation between UNWRA and UNHCR, and their roles in the prolonging of the refugee crisis and difference in status. This is a huge cornerstone of the modern side of the conflict and it would be great if you touched on it with any future video you may have planned.
Brits invaded ALL CONTINENTS!😂
An invaluable summary of the recent history of the holy land. It's a tragedy.
Great work, I really appreciate it.
I love the comprehensiveness, objectivity and nuance with which this was undertaken. This conflict is complicated to the Nth degree and appropriated by so many for personal causes. Thank you for the time taken here to do justice to the idea of telling the whole truth.
Yes, and they still fueling it.
Maybe I shouldn't be picking nits, but something Sebastian said around 15:00 grated on me. "Ahad Ha'Am" is a single-phrase pen name that sort of means "One of the people". "Ha'Am" is not a family name. Calling him "Ha'Am" is like calling the Sundance Kid "Kid".
Thank you for being clear on how personally responsible Winston Churchill is of the whole conflict
How can you say, Britain had no right to rule Palestine after the Great War? Britain fought a legal war against the Ottoman Empire, the ally of Germany and therefore occupied occupied rightfully lands taken from the Ottoman Empire.
50 yrs to the date 🤔.
It's not a simple case of good vs evil it seems.
Yay
Spartacus Jr.
This video is a very valuable and impartial summary of the history of the land of Canaan over the past century and a half.
It is unfortunate that the discussion of this history is made unnecessarily difficult by those commentators who would ask what I categorise as the "unanswerable question" or the "have you stopped beating your wife?" type of question. In this case the questioner asks "isn't the slogan From the River to the Sea a call for genocide?" No matter what the answer, the questioner expects to say: "Ha! gotcha!"
Yes. French helped in Lebanon.
Solid research on a complicated and polarizing topic. As usual, well done. #smittystampofapproval 🫡
Loved getting to see more of the Time Ghost team. I think slightly more volume on Sebastian's microphone would have been helpful though.
Excellent video though. I'm off to share it with my friends who keep posting propoganda about wars they refuse to educate themselves on.
Constantinople fell on May 29 not 19, and the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) emperor that asked Pope for help to deal with the Seljuks was Alexios II not Alexander. Alexios and Alexander are two different names.
Pardon me, but why do you overlook 1. That Palestine was the original homeland of a people violently thrown off it by a colonizing power who memorialized that act in stone on the Arch of Titus in the Roman Forum, and 2. that this people, unlike any other people, maintained their cultural identity, though they had been a stateless people for nearly two millennia, and 3. said stateless but cohesive ethnic group was, for most of the last thousand years, persecuted, murdered, and subjected to acts that meet the legal definition of genocide?
These seem critical elements of the backstory here, and the past matters. Just like our DNA, our past affects us, whether or not we're aware of that past. Ignorance of the past robs us of what ability we have to choose how we let it affect us.
Please continue with this subject. Review the events of 1956, 1967, 1972, etc.
Thank you for taking the courageous decision to do this episode
Very well done on the ending. I think we need to remember that life isn't a zero-sum game, and also remember that someone out there can be drowning while you're dying of thirst.
Israeli here.
Everyone I know here had a point where they lost their faith in the 2 state solution. For my father, it was the Ramallah lynch, for me it was the October 7th attack, for someone I know it was the knife attacks in 2017.
Oslo only made things worse
I want to say, that the idea of anti Zionism is so pointless now.
As one scholar said: “it doesn’t matter who was when where, it matters who is where now”
Whether people like it or not, the Israelis are there to stay
I, as an Israeli, appreciate how you explain the conflict without storm into lies and misinformation that only exists in order to create hatred. In the end my generation pay for the sins of the past and the radicals of the present. "If two fish are fighting in a river, a long-legged Englishman has just passed by."
great
Looking at the sources, I've a good idea how this will go. 😀
Are there any book recommendations for this topic?
I read the "100 years war on Palestine" and while it was very informative it felt like there were probably some blindspots in it that I would not be aware of.
Sebastian is a nice addition to the team. I do wish he was a bit louder/the two mics were at an equal level. I had a bit of hard time hearing him. Their way of speaking is very similar, so it felt a bit like "Sparty, the Next Generation" (not a bad thing at all) 🙂 .
Misschien moet Engeland dan ook maar aan de Roma gegeven worden. Die hebben nog geen eigen land. Perhaps England should be given to the Roma. They don't have their own country yet.
… 0:03 YES.
Not sure why you started with the crusades without mentioning that the Lavant was taken over from the Christian Byzantine Empire in 637ad
I just love Sebastian as a addition to the team, keep up the great work!
I have one question when did Ha'am quote this?
The real problem with the middle east is the training and lifetime of brainwashing… is Islamic jihad terrorism, the leaders that promote this type of hate is at its core rotten.
Mohammed does not teach this, men who twist Mohammeds prophecies, are only interested in greed and hate, just notice how leaders of Hamas are in a hotels in Qatar living in luxury, while their trained assassins carryout atrocities on anyone not a jihadist!
Britain is the Devil to Africans & Arab's + undeveloped Country !
They divided people & we see war where British Colonized!
so if you say anything about this, aren't you antisemitic er go get banned?
Beyond fantastic
difficult but intresting story
Ugghh…they are going to get hate-mail
Salaam. Shalom. Words from two different languages that are so close to each other that most anyone can see the bonds, yet are seen as nearly opposite due to mistrust and broken promises.
You sound like atheist
As usual, very interesting, thorough and informative 🙂
On a lighter side, I recommend a good listen to Al Stewart's 'League of Notions' (yes, notions, not nations 😉 )
Dear Timeghost,
I'm sick and tired of the censorship of your channel. I honestly didn't even say anything wrong or insulting yet most of my comments had been deleted. You need to respect opposing views, even if they are from your perspective insulting. When I replied to that guy who said he is in active duty for the IDF and fully supported the military operation against Palestinians with "How does it feel like to be part of a criminal organization", you have to understand what I went through and what I saw and what I felt. It has nothing to do with being "emotional", for me who is going through all of this, this is just reality. It's not an insult, its an observation. If I said the same thing about a former Wehrmacht soldier, would you have deleted my comment? And when I said to another guy who said he doesn't believe in a 2 state solution anymore that they are lying, they never believed in one – again, this is just the reality I'm observing! Most of the Israelis don't want a Palestinian state. There are numerous statistics which prove that + they have only voted right wing anti Palestinian politicians since their entire existence! This is just a few examples. You deleted like 8 comments I made. You have to learn to accept opposing views, even if they are insulting. I mean of course from your comfortable couch it's always easy to tell people what to do, but this not the world we live in.
Biblical history is very clear that God gave the land to to Abraham And his descendants, The israelites,.. Genesis 15:18, And more, God gave us The Holy Bible.
As more or less a roadmap, but if we don't want to take that in considerathen, that's only human. Definance, That's a choice, May god have mercy
If you can answer this question time ghost, when the Ottoman Empire collapsed, who did the area of Palestine which was a Ottoman colony belonge to? As "Palestine" was never a sovereign country