Debunking Flat Earth & Prepping for Mars



In this fascinating conversation with Dr. Jacklyn Green at the Silverwolves event, we dive into debunking the flat Earth theory and explore the concept of Martian bushcraft.

Dr. Green explains why the flat Earth idea holds no weight and shares her insights on how humanity might use basic technology to one day terraform Mars.

From ancient survival skills to futuristic possibilities, this interview offers a unique perspective on science and survival that you won’t want to miss!

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31 thoughts on “Debunking Flat Earth & Prepping for Mars”

  1. I can Prove the lady is wrong with actual physics and challenge her to do the demonstration to test the globe claims of gas behavior in the light of the 2nd law of thermodynamics – However There is No reason my Flat Earth friends to be hateful to the lady. We were all once where she is now. We all believed as she does, we all had the same education and indoctrination from birth. The lady said in a comment she does what she does to teach – that's exactly why I'm here – to show her, her error because I Care about truth in science and physics. I do this out of love. She cannot argue with actual physics she Must know that if she is a real scientist. She just needs to do the demonstration, study the laws of thermodynamics and then she will KNOW we aren't nuts.

    Ma'am, I get it. it's hard to believe you were lied to all your life especially when your Job is on the line. People don't want to believe others have deceived them (even out of ignorance) nor do they want to believe they themselves can be deceived. It's human nature. Our position is you were misled and it can be proven with physics. Test those claims. Be Better. Do better. If I'm wrong, the physics demonstration will show me.

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  2. She actually brought up Eratosthenes?!?

    Globe-Theorists often say silly things like “The Greeks knew it was a globe 2000 years ago!” or “Eratosthenes proved the shape with sticks and shadows!”… This is actually 100% false and pseudoscience. There are too many inconsistencies and variables in that fable to be a valid argument.

    1. Not one single book exists from his time era ever mentions this experiment being done.
    2. How did he coordinate the timing of this test with his partners who were 500 miles away,(Alexandria to Syene) or 10 days travel with horses? In a time with no cell phones or watches, this would have been impossible.
    3. None of the books written by his apprentices at the Library of Alexandria ever mention his name. Eratosthenes name didn’t appear in school books until the 1980’s. We can’t even be sure he existed.
    4. The light/shadow angles from a smaller and closer sun will give the EXACT same angles as a larger and distant sun. The math can work for both models. Flat or Globe.
    5. Globe-theorists say that our atmosphere bends and scatters the light rays before they reach our surface, this alone would make that “experiment” null and void. If the light rays have been distorted then you would not get an accurate measurement.
    6. Moon-light gives the same shadow angles as Sun-light proving a smaller and local light source will give the same angles.

    The so-called stick and shadow test is ridiculous at best and an outright deception/lie at worst.

    https://youtu.be/S7phbfBH6PI

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  3. btw, oakley only sends his followers over to this video to try to drum up views for his scamming channel. a pinned comment informing people of that would be helpful.

    it's good for this channel, but don't bother going to his scamming channel.

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  4. The scientific method is a systematic approach for investigating phenomena, acquiring knowledge, and testing hypotheses. Here’s how it can be applied to counter the claim that the Earth is flat:

    1. Observation

    Flat-Earth proponents may claim that the Earth "appears" flat when standing on the ground, as we do not perceive the curvature from such a vantage point.

    Counter:

    While this may seem true at ground level, observations from high altitudes, such as from airplanes or spacecraft, show the Earth's curvature. Additionally, long-distance horizon behavior and phenomena like the disappearance of ships over the horizon provide clear observable evidence of a curved surface.

    2. Question

    Is the Earth flat or spherical? How can we determine its shape through experimentation and observation?

    3. Hypothesis

    If the Earth is spherical, then we should observe the following:

    – Ships will disappear hull-first when sailing away from view.

    – The curvature of the Earth will be visible from high altitudes.

    – Shadows cast by the Earth on the Moon during lunar eclipses will be round.

    – The Sun will rise and set at different times in different parts of the world, creating time zones.

    4. Experiment and Data Collection

    – Lunar Eclipse Observation: During a lunar eclipse, observe that the shadow cast by the Earth on the Moon is always round. This would not happen if the Earth were flat.

    – Flight and Altitude Observations: Take photographs of the horizon from high-altitude planes or balloons. These clearly show the curvature of the Earth.

    – Ship Disappearance: Observe ships as they sail away from a shoreline. The hull disappears first, followed by the mast, which is consistent with the Earth’s curved surface.

    – Time Zones: Conduct experiments on the time of sunrise and sunset at different locations across the globe. This demonstrates the Earth's rotation and curvature, as a flat Earth would result in simultaneous daylight across all locations.

    5. Analysis

    Each of the above experiments confirms that the Earth behaves like a sphere:

    – The consistent round shadow during lunar eclipses.

    – The visible curvature from high altitudes.

    – The manner in which ships disappear over the horizon.

    – The existence of time zones and the Sun’s differing positions at various longitudes.

    These results are all consistent with a spherical Earth and contradict the flat Earth model.

    6. Conclusion

    Based on repeated observations and consistent experimental data, the hypothesis that the Earth is spherical is supported. The idea of a flat Earth is refuted by a wide range of scientific evidence and observations from multiple independent sources.

    Using the scientific method demonstrates that the flat Earth model fails to explain observable phenomena, while the spherical Earth model is repeatedly validated through empirical evidence.

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  5. All of this flat earth discussion reminds of the theories of Immanuel Velikovsky, in their lack of evidence. Are you are on board with those theories too? I remember a guy coming to give us a lunchtime seminar once and spouting off Velikovsky theories. Half way through his talk everyone threw down their lunches and walked out on the guy. It was an amazing moment when scientists rejected nonsense in a very visceral manner. I learned then, to just not pay attention to such things. The best answer is no answer, just walk away quietly – but leave the lunch behind. So…. have my lunch guys. I will stick to science and thinking of a better future for all. May you all be blessed with bright futures and peaceful moments with your friends and families.

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  6. Excellent!! Per real scientific physics it has become obvious that outer space being an alleged infinite and expanding vacuum universe is a blatant violation of entropic law!

    Funny how we can physically demonstrate that physical high pressure flows to physical low pressure yet the alleged high pressure at sea–level never fills the alleged low pressure at altitude!!

    By the way our leader Nathan Oakley reviewed your video and is not very pleased with the allegations contained therein,,, nor are we!

    Why hasen't academia delt with the Flat earth phenomenon? They have i.e. censorship!

    If you have no rebuttal please feel free to refrain from posting to me.

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  7. If this lady kept up to date with the flat earth debate over at NathanOakley1980 channel, she might realize that saying "the sun fell into a well" is alluding to elevation angles that require a horizontal plane of reference.

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  8. @Survival Dispatch Did you get what you wanted? You wanted for this video to go viral and it did attract Flat Earthers attention. You thought you would have a guest on that would end the debate and all of her science and physics got destroyed by Real science and physics that I can replicate always. Was it worth it to you to find out you have been indoctrinated since birth and believe a heliocentric cult? Yes we call it a Cult when people like your so called rocket scientist defends it with a religious fever without bothering to fact check the false science she was indoctrinated to believe. That's so not in keeping with science it's not even funny. Read the comments – See how exactly Zero people are willing to test the claims, they just hand wave dismiss the laws of physics. You tell me who's being more intellectually honest – them, or us who choose to only support what can be tested and verified. Your guest called all of us nutters. She owes us a public apology. Sir, YOU also owe us a public apology for allowing that.

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  9. I'm reminded of the issues surrounding the exploration of Lake Vostok in Antarctica. This frozen over lake was discovered by an orbiting radar spacecraft. The Russians and Americans wanted to drill to explore it. Would they find life or would it be lifeless? Only drilling in and breaking through the ice would reveal the secrets beneath the ice. They worked together to try to drill and not contaminate the lake so they could obtain pristine samples. Their work together was admirable. I am sure the groups here: traditional scientists and flat earth scientists can come together to determine a good course of action to put the questions to the test and arrive at answers in an amicable way.

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  10. You guys are the best. I so appreciate your passion for the topic of Flat Earth. It is not really my thing. I want colonists to go to Mars and survive by growing plants in greenhouses. I recommend extension courses in aerospace and thermodynamics at your local colleges and university extension programs. USC and University of Arizona have great Systems Engineering programs. MIT has a great non-programming AI program. If you want to stay online and without worry about grades, I suggest Coursera and Udemy. You can find just about any subject on those platforms. You can even get credentials for various subjects. Keep on poking at this subject and working to find the answers and experiments. You are an inspiration to anyone who wants to dig deep to try to learn something. Even if I don't agree with you, I respect the fact that you bring a passion and love for the subject. That is what helps our way into a brighter future. Ad Astra!

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