“There should be no challenge. The appeal is made and it basically goes through on the nod.”
Neither the Post Office nor judicial system should challenge appeals by Horizon scandal victims seeking to overturn wrongful convictions says Sir David Davis, Conservative MP and former Brexit Secretary.
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The Vennels Creature should be locked up for the same period that thses people have had to suffer — with no appeal and no reprieve.
There's gonna be loads of people in on this .I think the public should be reassured that everyone with anything dishonest taking part should be punished .and I don't think £500 would cut it .they need to pay back every penny if they have had it.lets see reall justice done for once .not like party gate where the fines where so small that it was only like us the public paying back 1penny and keeping thousands .hit their pockets hard .then maybe we shall have more control over money in the future . something has to work .
MPs jumping on this bandwagon will not absolve themselves of their complete and utter failure, especially over the last few years.
I hope those postmasters get to sue individuals for every sodden penny they possess… Vennels could lose her home, for starters!
I wonder if MPs will be as quick to join forces around the subject of excess deaths! 🤔🤔
Oh, I forgot… They're busy washing their hair that day! 🤬
Ask why all the immigirants ,turkish barbers ,kebab shops ,nail bars,car washes are openly dealing drugs and money laundering in the UK and doing it on a daily basis are getting away with it ?
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Post Office scandal: 700 people affected? 4 SUICIDES??
HOLD MY FCKING BEER!!!
Wait til they make a film about the LOAN CHARGE!! Hmrc ignored a tax loophole for 20yrs, allowing people to LEGALLY take loans in place of salary that never needed paying back. Several thousands of doctors, nurses, engineers, tradesmen etc. used these schemes, often advised to do so by agencies and Queens Counsel tax lawyers. These schemes were OPENLY ADVERTISED everywhere in full view of hmrc.
Then, hmrc decided to RETROSPECTIVELY change the law in 2017 to make it sound like these people had been breaking the law for the previous 20 – TWENTY years! Sort of like saying "yes we've decided to reduce the motorway speed limit to 50mph, dating back to 2004. So all of you we have on speed camera doing 70mph, have now broken the law – PAY UP!! Oh yes, and WITH INTEREST!!!
50,000 PEOPLE AFFECTED
10 SUICIDES
COUNTLESS PEOPLE AND FAMILIES, MARRIAGES DESTROYED!!!
I KID YOU NOT. Buried by the press.
The LOAN CHARGE SCANDAL is the subject one of of parliaments biggest All Party Parliamentary Groups ever assembled, with a view to stop the carnage, yet hmrc ARE A LAW UNTO THEMSELVES and have IGNORED requests to explain or LIED about the law.
Absolute CNTS.
If only we knew which government watch all this happening and did nothing eh, Davy boy!!! Look up the phrase insincere!
What a bunch of hyperbolic nonsense. These Spmrs admitted to theft and wrongful accounting – what did they expect?! The glitches in the system excuse has been going on for years and not one of them showed any proof whatsoever. The PO had managers investigating all this for years – couldnt find one scrap of evidence. The fact they can work on software remotely is a totally separate matter but the courts couldn't seem to grasp this. Its a sumple accounting system not the large hadron collider.
Davis where were you 5,10 or 20 years ago
SHAMEFULL CRONYISM
The government want to bankrupt he Post Office because they deal in cash and they want no cash x
This is yet another Blair caused disaster.
Everything he did was a disaster.
The compensation should include substantial amounts from every individual who caused, failed to properly oversee…. everyone who prosecuted is at fault and utter disgraces.
Rebuild the post office without the gestapo police, you need to investigate the post office gestapo interrogators / investigators/ witch hunters
David, believe as a member of a democratic/lawful society (alledegly) are seething with anger and will not let this be buried. Everybody involved must be identified and punished.
Meant to say 'believe me'.
Is not this a case of the Post Office and Fujitsu conspiring to pervert the course of justice and engaging in malicious prosecution?
Surly many of those involved at the post office are liable under section 26 oath of office, which carries upto 12/14 years in prison as a sentence.
which politician oversees the postal service?
Finally a minister talking sense. Bankrupt the Post Office and rebuild it from the ground up.
Chase the bonuses paid to management who have obviously played creative accounting to give the impression the post office was profitable. A deep delving into their accounting says otherwise. Heads must role and prosecutions must follow and quickly…
The thing is, with the Post Office saying they want justice but then acting like they are delaying it and challenging it, it is indicative of how every big corporation behaves. They all hide behind policies and big bold statements, thinking the gullible public and MP's should accept it all as try even though their actions say different.
One of my previous employers had a bully and harassment policy that said they take it very seriously and move swiftly to investigate and resolve any grievance. But when I raised a grievance they didn't respond for 8 months and then they only responded because I sent them a further letter saying as they had ignored me I was seeking my own legal action.
We need to just see that all corporations do is give us bs. They are supported in doing so by HR departments, whose staff are trained to deny liability and keep the company out of court – no matter the effect on the staff/victims. They wont even feel bad about causing degrading mental health or anything because they are convinced they are always acting properly. They use so much word salad and doublethink, they are becoming more difficult to call out successfully.,
Exactly they are not worthy to carry on its not worth the bother to fix it.
Some of those prosecutors need to be put in prison!
I think this shows why its such a bad practice to privatise a genuine public service.
It's an absolute "Ducking Fisgrace" what the men and ladies with "Badges" did to these poor Postmasters. Those involved at the PO should be prosecuted for fraud.
Paula Vennells is an Anglican 'priest' — proving there's no greater hypocrite than a religious hypocrite.
Parliament is broken, we have record excess deaths just now and MPS don't attend debates. Maybe we need a prime time series covering this issue in order to get MPS to take the issue seriously.
I suppose ITV should do a docudrame about the Infected Blood scandal. Far more implications of Government cover up, and general malaise on the subject.
There is the wider issue of private prosecutions process abuse by the Post Office.
Fujitsu emplyee(s) have asked repeatedly for immunity from prosecution from the Attorney General prior to appearing at the inquiry. On the grounds of self incrimination. So Fujitsu likely can be held to account.
Post Office and Fujitsu employees failed to disclose information that supported defence cases. Courts tend not to view that favourably.
Post Office investigators and Fujitsu managers withheld responses and were less that truthfully when questioned. Judges really do not like that.
Sitting in a witness box and stating you were right because the IT system could not be in error, despite being unqualified to determine that, is not a good way to convince people you are competent.
Where are the politicians when excess deaths have been discussed, most scurry off with a handful remaining. It's the same problem whereby there's clearly something not right which MPs are choosing to ignore.
All of a sudden the all say how terrible what has happened to the postmasters and there families has been going on since 2006 then 2019 gave biggest liar in this scandal a obe and £3 million pay off a golden pension and then a post in the cabinet office and she was 2nd to become a bishop in the c.o.e. the whole thing stinks of corruption.
We want to see Vennells and her team do 20-years for conspiring to pervert the course of justice.
Fujitsu is complicit.
Life in prison for all those dodgy people at the post office
While your at look at the laws around the railways.
I reckon Vennells is the masters sister in Salems lot
When are we going to see the judges appearing before the inquiry? These people are the last bastion of justice for the weak against the powerful. They have failed catestrophicly. We now know there is no justice. It is obvious. Every one of these unsafe judges must appear before the inquiry. To be made to squirm like all the others. Justice must be seen to be done. If not why not? These judges have allowed appalling abuse of the rules of evidence and the rules of disclosure. The judges must be called to account too. The inquiry will fail if the judges are not interogated too.
come on it was kidnapping , false imprisonment , fraud , theft , perverting the course of justice. anyone else in any jobs would be in prison for any of those charges , so can you start sending people to prison
Handing the CBE back is not the same as having the King take it away! She had been given a CBE "for services to the Post Office and to charity". The King should involve himself in the justice of rewarding incompetence with his awards and actively remove it.
I do care because we will pay for incompetence