Could NATO-Supplied Arms Change Ukraine's Fate?



NATO has claimed it would begin sending more significant, heavier weapons to Ukraine including armored vehicles, missiles, and even floating discussion over tanks and warplanes.

However there are serious complications going unmentioned across the Western media:

1. Heavy NATO weapons like tanks, anti-ship missiles, and warplanes take months or longer to train on;
2. they also require entirely new infrastructure, warehouses of new spare parts, ground support equipment, and personnel trained to carry out maintenance which takes months or longer to establish;
3. None of these proposed weapons, nor anything else in NATO’s inventory can make up for Ukraine’s shortcomings including loss of trained manpower, crippled logistics, and ineffective organizational structures to compete with Russian military power;
4. Many of these weapons – like the UK’s Harpoon missiles – are nearing expiration;
5. In order for these systems to be put directly into use, NATO personnel would have to covertly operate them until Ukrainian personnel could take over months or even years later.

References:

Washington Post – What weapons to send to Ukraine? How debate shifted from helmets to tanks.:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/09/nato-heavy-weapons-ukraine/
The National Interest – Germany’s Leopard 2 Tank in Syria Was Beaten Badly in Battle. Why?:
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/germanys-leopard-2-tank-syria-was-beaten-badly-battle-why-78441
YouTube – Direct ATGM hit: Kurdish female fighters destroy invading Turkish Leopard 2 tank in Afrin region:
https://youtu.be/YafzmkvVRiI
Defense One – Saudi Losses in Yemen War Exposed by US Tank Deal:
https://www.defenseone.com/business/2016/08/us-tank-deal-exposes-saudi-losses-yemen-war/130623/
The Brookings Institution – Is selling tanks to Saudi Arabia such a good idea?:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/08/13/is-selling-tanks-to-saudi-arabia-such-a-good-idea/
The National Interest – The UAE’s Leclerc Tanks Had a Rough Time in Yemen:
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/uaes-leclerc-tanks-had-rough-time-yemen-196893
Forbes – Lacking Missiles And Aircraft, British Warships Are Harmless ‘Herbivores’:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/12/23/lacking-missiles-and-aircraft-british-warships-are-harmless-herbivores/?sh=23fe29ae1b73
The Balance Careers – Navy Fire Controlman Job Description:
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/fire-controlman-navy-enlisted-rating-job-description-3345817

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38 thoughts on “Could NATO-Supplied Arms Change Ukraine's Fate?”

  1. Ukraine was ancient cradle where Russia come from and it's Russian land and will be Russians again regardless what US and NATO wants! End of Speculations! This is End Of US dominations. From now on US is going unstoppable to it's demise/doom! World had enough of US and EU's colonial robbing and looting at will. It's End of Western 🐍👹Capitalism it has out live it's life, it's time for parasitic capitalism System to be replaced with new and better economic system called Socialism!! All for One and One for All. Enough of US and EU's Parasitic war mongering Capitalism!

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  2. Corrupt Ukraine could just be selling arms on to Kosovo or ISIS.
    If Russians are being routed and some are reported as abandoning equipment, why don't the Ukies use the captured materiel they are used to handling, rather than begging for help.

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  3. Give War a Chance: NATO and Neo-Nazis Want Ukraine Conflict to Go on Forever

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1O2WWqyPQ

    Ukraine Neo-Nazis Infiltrate EVERY LEVEL Of Military & Government

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfaAyiP8Wuc

    EU and Ukraine are making the BEST Russian Propaganda – Inside Russia Report

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBEZ66PQwM

    Proof: Zelensky REJECTED Peace With Russia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m9PoKnCNR0

    French journalist Anne-Laure Bonnel on bombing of Donbass (French)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdETdJfYDhw

    Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

    Who Is Zelensky? Independent view from Gonzalo Lira right from Ukraine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7NTLZDd4tc

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  4. The training for sophisticated Western armoury do not arise.
    US, NATO troops or their mercenaries from other war zones could easily masquerade as volunteers defending Ukraine.
    Hard to believe that Ukrainians master skills in record pace.

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  5. You forgot to mention the most important part. To move the tanks to the front lines you cannot just ride them to the location. The more logical and effective way to move them is to use trains. But the problem of trains is that they have a set trajectory and cannot change course. Keep in mind that there are only 6 rail road going from europe into ukraine. For sure Russian drones monitor them 7/24. Is enough to destroy at least 1 train or just target the rails themself using a cruise missile and it will damage them to the point that it will take months of work to make it again operational.
    An alternative is to use military planes to move them in. But in this case, Russia can use again cruise missiles to destroy the last airports left in Ukraine and to restore an airport infrastructure take even more.
    To finish you still can drive them directly. But is hard to not notice a tank moving through Ukraine from drones. Without speaking that from Poland "Lublin" city till the Ukraine "Kiev" there are 600 km. From Kiev to Odessa near front lines there are another 1000 km. In total those tanks need to cross 1600km to reach the front lines. Each tank from full to empty can cross on average 400km using 1200 liters. This means that each tank if you drive them will need to refuel 4 times and will consume 4800 liters of fuel. A truck with a full cistern can transport 6800 liters. This means that each tank must be followed by a full cistern to reach its destination.

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  6. U.S and U.K business was war they need to dispose all stock weapon they have for a long time after syria war.How zelenski will pay his debt to U.S and U.K? Maruipol soon will be under russian, Chechenian soldier and will be liberated.

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  7. Much of the war will end if Russia can eleminate the Ukranian army in Donbass region. They are talking about 100.000 people. However after the Mokva sank it may be hard to extend the operation to Odessa.

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  8. My country is a next door to Russia. In the past it was part of USSR as Russia was. We have the same armour. Each men must be prepared to use armour. In fact soviet armour is very simple. It was designed for people with basic training. However, after one year of compulsory military training our people are not enough preparead to use it. I think western armour is designed for professionals. It is not suitable for nonproffesionals. That is why this assistance is waste of time and efforts. The problem is that simple Russian and Ukranian soldiers will be killed. That is the problem.

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  9. It's a test of useless crap toys, they can say , well that did not work…..20 people dead , oh well who cares.
    Well the day is fast when the dog bites back.

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  10. I’m gonna laugh if Russia somehow come on top after this, pray of Ukrainian people not being used by nato Russia and especially USA after this conflict I hate war by lies and deception duality and oppression and modern imperialism

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