The new combat patrols are….different, but are they getting worse?
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We go through each of the new Warhammer 40,000 Combat Patrols and compare them to the outgoing ones to see if there is an overall trend of the combat patrol boxes getting worse
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8:04 if you can't remember the name of a unit, it's 50/50 either a Breacher or a Castellan. No matter what army.
Combat patrols cost pretty much the same as battleforces did a few years back here in the us.
The shock I got at my local GW recently when I seen the CPs are now £100. Made me sick
These new combat patrols are a slap in the face. Wouldn't buy any of them.
GW charging more for less product whilst posting profits is certainly a bold strategy.
Tau and GSC are okay boxes for me, because at least they're not just all dudes on foot. Obviously the GSC is a huge downgrade but that's because the old one was the best ever. Drukhari is a solid one now, but I'm wondering how they're even going to swap anything out other than just cutting out the 2 boats. If they're devious they'll put one of the units that doesn't currently exist in plastic in that box.
All the rest it's basically been taking out the cool big models and if we're lucky replacing them with a minimum amount of "some dudes".
Of course they're doing new CPs for each codex. CPs designed for 9th don't fit 10th – I love my 9th Orks CP but I can't attach that warboss to any of the units in the box.
CPs were already crap compared to start collecting. Now at 100 quid they have only 20%discount on separate kits, but often with the etb versions!
I would love to see this video format for Spearhead in AoS tbh 😊
99% of the issue : you must make a new Combat Patrol for each faction. It must be different enough from the old one to look like a new product. Doesn't matter if this makes it distinctly worse (GSC being the most obvious example)
Vanguard boxes are the same size and much cheaper
Raiding that FLGS that was closing was the best thing ever. Sucks to high heaven the shop is closing, but 40% off warhammer and I felt like I was finally paying the right price for plastic. All my progress on the pile o shame right out the window as the beast tripled. In Denmark its wild to see a CP at 1000 kroner, after the new increase. Got the good genestealer cp w/ 32 minis for 80 bucks, and the vothann I paid 65.
Also nuts the old genestealer cp had almost as much content as their new battleforce box, shrinkflation has come to gw. Pay more and get less.
So gar the only new CP id consoder good are Custodes and Tau
I really love Poorhammer's "Building Better Combat Patrols" series, because it goes to show just how good some new combat patrols could be. I don't have hope that it'll turn out for the better, but one can dream
"Stupid War of the Worlds walker."
"I hate the Dunecrawler."
Wow, our tastes are wastly different. Those are some of the best models in their armies.
"Ghostkeel is peak Tau suit!"
Good opinion. I will forgive your previous transgressions. ;-P
I think GW are moving them from being the cheap Getting Started boxes they used to be to just being focused and "balanced" for the Combat Patrol/Spearhead mode of play. That and the buggers are just getting greedy. You would think after 200 million squid minimum profit, they could hold up on the price hikes and give us back proper getting started faction boxes again.
I’m wondering how the admech one is doing post buff. Might be worth picking up now
Giving the new Dark Angels a smash and not seeing the glory of the previous version makes me think you guys are 100% shills.
What annoys me more potentially than them just getting worse is the that most (all?) have a character that can't join any of the units that come with it, space marine had 2 terminator characters but you can only join one at a time to the terminators, nids have the prime, the gravis captain in dark angles etc etc
"No challenges, not yet."
Skaventide peaking in from the near future…
They are going to turn it into aos spearhead , I wouldn't be surprised if the release a board for it like spearhead and turn it into buy this box to play this version of 40k but don't buy multiple boxes for army building 2000 points
The fact that the Dark Angels CP doesn’t have a single dark angels unit is a shame. Would it kill them to throw a set of knights or companions in it?
Short answer. Yes
Start collecting number of models at combat patrol price.
You gotta be crazy to think that the new AdMech CP is about the same as the old one. Post dataslate, the old CP was 470 pts while the new one is 290.
The new one isn't very good when playing combat patrol as you dont have any damage dealing units or anything that can take any damage.
I was disappointed in the new GSC box but there are definitely two key scenarios it makes sense; I think that GW's plan was to sell it to the people who had already gotten 3 of the old one and needed the other stuff, but boy is it rough to new GSC players. The other scenario is if you really want to play the GSC vehicle detachment; in that regard it's similar to beast snaggas, its great if that's your thing, and meh for everyone else. That said, I had 2 of the old ones, and I'll probably go in on a third rockgrinder and then hybrids.
Yea.
The new genestealer box is actually pretty decent.
If you already own the old one
Im gonna need to know where you got that Space Hunk tshirt, for reasons…
I do feel like they are getting worse as start collecting boxes but the new ones feel much better in the Combat Patrol game format. The old Tau and DA were busted to play against. Great vid my guys
It wouldnt be so bad if the CP's were at least still interesting. Not only are they upping the price but theyre removong a lot of the interesting elements that made them worth it. Perfect example: they took the tank out of the sisters box, and took the dreadnought out of the Dark Angels box. The value and interest is basically gone
I actually think the templar combat patrol will be the best marines patrol. They have one battle line unit (that will be used almost 90%), the upgrade sprue is awesome and will probably have one other unit and an HQ (basically will loose the vehicle (or not) some other patrols have vehicles like the GSC or tau
8:25 I am absolutely on board with left kieran here
Can't wait for the new Drukhari combat patrol with a Succubus, 10 wyches, a venom, 10 hellions and 5 scourges!
Space Marines combat patrol boxes were and still are boring as f…. they never had any flavor (except for Black Templars). they were just made to sell generic models for any SM army. Good core, but nothing for the chapters.
Sisters… the old had good value, but being mono-pose it has some limitations. Love the variety though, I just wished the Sisters squad had at least a heavy weapon or any other options. The new one on the other hand does come handy if you didn't have Flagellants or Sacresants as both Canoness (base for conversions, its a cool kit) and Battle Sisters can be used in multiples.
Overall combat patrol boxes are going to be worse. There are a few old ones that I might pick up when I see what their new versions will bring (did it for the Sisters as well).
The company spits on you and you are like "please dont exploit me financially i need your plastic tat" your lack of backbone will lead to the downfall of this entire setting and franchise. Bitches.
The new Nids CP has the same argument as the Space Marines and the Start Collecting box. Fun units, but cheaper to get the Start Collecting box and the missing unit (that I don't remember off the top of my head)
In the past they where start collecting boxes… now its its own game format. GW is literally making you pay for the combat patrol game format, by making the boxes smaller and worse.
It's wild how much more affordable AOS 3rd Ed armies are compared 10th Ed 40k. I really hope that stays the same with 4th Ed when we see the indexes this week.
10:18 admech combat patrol is a downgrade because it lost good chunky damage dealers, center piece and easy to use units, also those new units are a pain to put together I would not put them in a box for people new to the army or game. The best way to improve the set is just chuck in a dragoon or 2 and give the set back a center piece and needed damage
combat patrols are starting to look like the start collecting boxes with nearly double the price.
They all include some trash unit that makes them not worth getting. Never include the cool stuff that get people into the factions. Whatever. The best combat patrols are bundles of STLs from patreon.
I know the Tau one is much worse overall but its perfect for the bits I need so Im happy xD
The sisters boxes where so disapointing, I was fully prepared to drop £130 to add to my chaos sisters army but seeing that combat patrol and the battleforce box I was so sad.
Ive seen the boxes, they are so thin, you could unironically fit 3 of those boxes in 1 Drukari box
Good news at least is that Combat Patrol magazine from Hachette has nearly all old combat patrols in it plus some bonus units. I've got a Forbidden Planet near my work so I'll just cherry pick all the good bits