The first of our two-part special on the origins of Covid, drawing from a new Sunday Times investigation into the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Newly declassified US intelligence leaves open the question of where the pandemic really started. But fresh evidence drawn from confidential files reveals Chinese scientists spliced together deadly pathogens shortly before the pandemic.
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China has a loy yp answer for!
that would sound like one very weird, meaningless "experiment". If a type of combined virus succeded (as some do all the time in nature), that could never exclude any number of other hybrids or mutants emerging, and certainly neither could it prove they all would be benign. It is like asking "can a rock be used as a dangerous weapon?" and then using enormous ressources and years of work in order to give the obvious answer: " yes, many of them could".
That government needs to be taught a lesson.
Bio weapon is the reasoning.
NOT human health.
To the investigators: Could you try and find out, if there is evidence to support Chinese soldiers being vaccinated against COVID using the (pre-pandemic November 2019) vaccine mentioned in the second part. There might be documents, left-over vaccines, and one could look for antibodies in Chinese soldiers who have emigrated to the West, though I’m not sure if the antibodies can be distinguished from antibodies raised against newer vaccines. One could also look for underrepresentation of Chinese soldiers in COVID infection statistics. If the Chinese were vaccinating their soldiers against COVID, it would be evidence to me that they were really pushing the bio-weapon approach, which would be weapons of mass destruction, and needs international outrage!
The NIH would not have know that the virus experiments where lethal if only “mild symptoms” were reported (not clear if it was reported to the NIH). Thus, his argument becomes circular if he uses the NIH to say that the experiments where not dangerous.
Funded by fauci
Chinese "standards" + Fau(x)ci = Disaster
China will destroy the world eventually. One way or another
Terrifying! Why am I so intrigued by this type of video??. I'm 43, with all that's going on in the world if I make it to 80 without seeing something truly horrific happening to mankind I'll be amazed. Humans are reaching the limits of safe progress.
16:25 "Humanised mice what does that mean?". The tone of voice is Daily Star Radio. Just because the radio competition (radio 4) has become pathetic doesn't mean you have to outpathetic them.
There's an Ad every 2 minutes on this video… Maybe even every 90 seconds.
Almost like someone WANTS to distract from the conversation?
27:08+
Why have these fade outs with music?
And monetisation of the video set to the maximum level…an Advertisement every 120 seconds?
31:38+
Another POINTLESS distracting interlude…
In talking about the work on the MERS virus, the mutant may well not have been more pathagenic, simply because it was already highly pathagenic …BUT the point is it could easily have become more infectious (in humans) simce MERS was hardly infectious at all (in Humans)
Regarding the safety procedures at the Whuan Instistute. Safety levels 3 and 4 make experiments and procedures such as simple assays very cumbersome and time consuming as well as uncomfortable for the scientists. For that reason, they can be expected to be bypassed where there is a lot of routine work to be done on a virus even if it is potentially dangerous.
its not what you know
Thank you for this! I'm looking forward to listening to Part II. And to more "conspiracy theories" being proved anything but.
I have heard many of these points before from less respectable sources. The lack of a natural animal reservoir for this virus makes the lab leak an obvious theory to explore.
Key players obfuscating evidence makes me give the lab leak theory more credibility.
WHAT does it matter????
The US told you not become dependent on Russia. You didn't listen.
America said China needs to be put in check. EU leaders flock there and claim they do what they want, not what is good for the alliance as a whole.
China could come out and say an infected lab worker had sex with a bat and then released it into nature. It does not matter because you will still do what is wrong. Yeah, yeah, people say America does what is right when no options are left. We didn't become dependent on Russia and we have warned you about China. The people that say this have Trump syndrome. I do it, you must be.
Most dangerous virus's that kilked millions came from Asia.
blame the chinese when the crisis was used by the elites, ok
Anyone want to bet the Chinese are not going to try it again?
We were all conned. Winners and losers.