Brit Reacts To THE INFAMOUS EAGER BEAVERS & THEIR CUSTOM B17 BOMBER!
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Hi everyone, I’m Kabir and welcome to another episode of Kabir Considers! In this video I’m going React To THE INFAMOUS EAGER BEAVERS & THEIR CUSTOM B17 BOMBER!
The Infamous Eager Beavers & Their Custom B17 Bomber – Old 666
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At 34:35, The Fat Electrician mistakenly said that both Zeamer and Sarnoski were "fatally wounded." Zeamer was badly wounded but lived until 2007. Sarnoski was "mortally" wounded, dying shortly thereafter while still firing his guns.
Being assigned to fly many bomber missions, especially for the British and Americans flying over Germany, was nearly a death sentence until late in the war when long-range fighters like the P-51 Mustang could escort the bombers all the way to the target. But there were more dangers than enemy fire. Bombers flying long distances over the ocean, deserts, mountains, or rain forests without modern navigation aids would get lost, presumably, and simply vanish. About 15,000 American aircrew lost their lives during training flights.
The B-17, like most of the bombers flown by all nations, had been designed several years before WW2 began, when both fighters and bombers flew at 200-250 mph. Larger bombers devoted about half of their crews to firing several machine guns at attacking fighters. It's doubtful this could have ever worked well, but the newer fighters had top speeds above 350 mph. It became extremely difficult for any human to move a machine gun quickly and accurately enough to track these quicker fighters making evasive maneuvers. Each time a bomber was shot down and its entire crew lost, the number of fatalities was doubled by having so many gunners.
Thank God for renagades
You mean the A-10 Warthog.
Hey Kabir! I was in the army infantry 1980-1984, and when it comes to completing or better accomplishing a task or mission, you were taught to take initiative. So, did the crew of Old 666 stray from the assigned mission yes, but what were the results of not one but both missions? They reduced enemy ammunition supply and fuel supply, both major blows to the enemy. Did they kill the enemy officers? No. Did they severely cripple the enemy's navy? Yes. Their chain of command had to weigh out the differences and balance the pros and cons before acting. Sort of like War Daddy's chain of command did and saw the bigger picture. There's nothing wrong with taking the initiative. There is something wrong with disobeying orders and not doing your job.
Check out Monteymayor and the battle of Midway from both the Japanese and US perspective – more of a docu series but fascinating!
Could you link the original video in your descriptions, please.
I would have S myself going 3 miles down in 30 seconds in an old bomber like that and surprised the wings didn't fail! But the alternative was to die of no oxygen so the only alternative.
Just proves his impressive piloting skills and suggest 99% of other bombers during that time would have been done for and unable to pull this off.
My son is Military, my DIL was also but then she gave me grandchildren and she wants to raise them. My 14 year old granddaughter has already joined the Jr ROTC .
A10 go Brrrrrrr!
US military aren't required to follow unlawful orders. HOWEVER, you better be able to defend your refusal in a UCMJ trial. Which is WAY different than civilian court. Of course most officers wise up to the fact, that they're issuing unlawful orders and sweep it under the rug. While also not punishing the offender.
There is a difference between not following orders and offering a similar or better solution to an order regarding targets.
Sure officials would have been good to get rid of but they are cheaper than fuel and ammo depots and aren’t likely to house civilians
Love Tfe reacts!
USMC Black Sheep Squadron in WWII. Sometimes you have to accommodate screw balls that are so good and terrifying to the enemy. GEN George S. Patton, old Jake McNasty!
A-10 warthog
When you have a military human asset (individual, crew, unit, whatever) that consistently doesn't obey orders, you can't have it in the normal chain of command, giving everybody else the idea that orders are optional. But if they're exceptionally effective, like these guys, you can isolate them from the normal chain of command by sticking them in a small, non-conventional (typically, special operations) unit that is run completely differently from the rest of the military. Then instead of giving them orders like "go to this location on this day at this time and bomb this building", you give them orders like "Here's a dossier on this enemy high-ranking admiral who is making the enemy navy so effective, it's causing us problems. Here's what we know about his travel plans for the next three weeks, and here's a budget. Neutralize him." And then you don't care whether they bomb the building, or poison the man, or suborn him, or what, as long as he ceases to be a problem. You can of course only do that sort of thing with guys who are highly resourceful and get stuff done. If guys with normal levels of skill and resourcefulness start ignoring orders, you do exactly the opposite: put them into a situation where they're so heavily supervised they can't tie their own shoes without a superior officer noticing immediately, so they can't cause any serious trouble.
If your going to react to the fat electrician, you need to not skip anything in his video including his ads. He lets everyone react to his content freely. Dont be the guy to mess it up by cutting out a bunch of his hard work
The plane you're thinking of is the a-10 warthog
I feel like if my high school history teacher taught like this, I would have been a better student.
Hope i can skip your ads like you do everyone elses
I'm sorry but continuing to cut out the sponsor and and not providing any links to the original creators despite multiple comments in every video pointing this out in every single one of the reactions you have done does not at all sit right with me and comes across as very scummy. I will no longer be watching or supporting anything this channel does. There are plenty of other reactors that actually have integrity.
Wow Gregory Boyington leader of the Black Sheep Squadron. Marines in 1942 Marine Fighting Squadron 214 in the South Pacific. Most of his missions were in that same area of the Eager Beavers.
One of my favorite stories from TFE, thx for checking it out bro
There's a difference between blind obedience and self discipline. There's some allowance in the United States military for this. If it's stupid, and it works, then it's not stupid.
The simple fact is that the S always rolls downhill. In times of war, the right ones stand up and take action instead of hiding behind "orders". TFE does an excellent job displaying this.
Excellent analysis.
Americans are just built different. There is no quiet in us. Thats what American sports teach us.