Bill Gates on possibility, AI, and humanity



How many lives will be saved with the help of AI over the next decade?
Reid and Aria sat down with Bill Gates to discuss his main areas of focus: climate change, energy, global health, and education—and how AI will help transform each of them. Taking a bird’s-eye view of society’s challenges, it’s easy to give in to pessimism. But as one of the most influential people in the world, Bill Gates has a unique perspective on how far humanity has come and what our potential—and timelines—for meaningful change really look like. He gets granular on everything from cows (5% of global emissions) to disease reduction and eradication (Guinea worm disease). At each turn, he has data at his fingertips to ground his beliefs. So, what current set of innovations is Bill most excited about? And what is realistically on the horizon for AI, climate change, energy, global health, and education?

For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/

00:00 – Hellos and intros
00:06 – Projects Bill is most excited about
02:28 – Bill’s recent Netflix series
04:56 – Technology that will change what’s possible
07:12 – Solutions for malnutrition
08:51 – Cow-based solutions for climate change and nutrition
13:48 – What Bill is working toward for climate change
16:01 – Viable alternative energy sources
21:02 – What will make solar work?
23:29 – Nuclear fission and fusion
26:12 – How AI will help mitigate climate change
29:20 – What to focus on in global health
34:06 – AI and drug discovery
36:34 – What else will AI unlock in public health?
39:20 – Personalized medicine: is it worth it?
40:44 – Conditions on the ground in the poorest countries
44:11 – AI in education
47:53 – Khanmigo and early GPT-4
51:28 – Non-tech levers for change in education
53:07 – What would Bill ask someone from 2100?
54:53 – AI in 3-5 years, and what comes next for work
59:33 – Rapid-fire Questions

Select mentions:
The Better Angels of Our Nature by Steven Pinker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nature

What’s Next? The Future with Bill Gates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xxhYr4gbQE

Bill Gates Visits First Avenue School: Commends Innovative Use of Technology
https://www.nps.k12.nj.us/schools/first-avenue-school/bill-gates-visits-first-avenue-school-commends-innovative-use-of-technology/

Possible is an award-winning podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity’s way? Tune in for grounded and speculative takes on how technology—and, in particular, AI—is inspiring change and transforming the future. Hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger, each episode features an interview with an ambitious builder or deep thinker on a topic, from art to geopolitics and from healthcare to education. These conversations also showcase another kind of guest: AI. Whether it’s Inflection’s Pi, OpenAI’s ChatGPT or other AI tools, each episode will use AI to enhance and advance our discussion about what humanity could possibly get right if we leverage technology—and our collective effort—effectively.

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31 thoughts on “Bill Gates on possibility, AI, and humanity”

  1. Hi Reid, I found the interview intriguing. Also, I have studied quite a few of the issues which were discussed and have made quite a few breakthroughs in these areas. One of the reasons why I think we might be seeing slow progress in these areas is largely due to the difficulties associated with getting information to people who are actually able to do something about the problem. So, we have this divide between people who are capable and those who are knowledgeable, which leaves the problems unsolved. I was wondering if you could maybe help me close that gap by providing me with a way to reach out to you guys about these problems and how I could potentially work with you on them, or at least get some of my ideas heard by someone in your organization. My research areas cover the topics of disease, desalination, climate change etc.

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  3. Neither one of these guys have loyalty to the American people. Bill a good monopolist but not a good innovator. He was slow to catch on to the internet and didn't understand the role that wireless would play.

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  4. If Bill cares so much he could invite some sub-Saharan Africans into his personal home. But seriously, personalized medicine is the path to the Future that will revolutionize health. Bill is completely wrong about that.

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  5. By the way proteins given to cows.
    ¿Existe alguna diferencia entre las vacunas de ARNm y las vacunas proteicas?
    La respuesta es un SI rotundo.
    Mientras que las vacunas basadas en proteínas entregan una proteína similar al virus (antígeno)lista para usar (ready to wear), directamente al sistema inmunológico, las vacunas de ARNm entregan material genético (creado en laboratorio) que instruye a las células del cuerpo a producir el antígeno, que a su vez desencadena una respuesta inmunitaria severa.

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  6. Sir Reid, you have created many good things in this world and I do see you as a good person overall due to your contributions, but that doesn't give you the right nor the privilege to be immune from the law. You and Gates have done something heinous in the past and you know what it is. I'll just let you give something to think about cause I know you will disagree. The precedent you guys are making which is to not shed light upon things that elites such as yourselves have done in the past is not honorable nor is conducive to the democracy we have. When trump is in office, the epstein list is going to leak, and the swamp and bad incentives in washington dc will be drain and once and for all

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  7. When you remove hydrogen and oxygen from oceans the salt that is left over becomes an unreconciled issue. For a human to be this naive about the damage that is possible by unfettered conversation from sea water to fresh water that just suggesting that we only need energy to solve the water shortage issue is very very dangerous. Yes this issue needs to be highlighted because the mass loss of life that would occur if unresolved is a death sentence for the future.

    The layering of saline concentrations is an epistemic risk that is not acceptable.

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  8. This commentary field is totally useless being 99% infested by agentic Russia-North Korea and China-bots, representing hate and fear mongering from the world’s enemies of Freedom, Democracy and Free market Capitalism,

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  9. mr, gates sacrificed his jung years from 20 to 35 for studying software,,,leaving apart matters such as history/geograply/meteorology and all this kind of interests which usually has a guy of 20years old,,,but he roll the dice and brought 7-11 in craps,,, so now he has plenty of time to study read or donate,,, the fact that he bought ''codex leicester''' shows his emotions,, aye personally admire him for all that he has done and donated,,,for me he seems to be like a fireplace,,, if you are very close to him you can burn,,, if you are to far awa you may catch a cold,,,you have to keep the right distance and judge him always newtral and not by listening all this gossip,,,
    takis [athens greece]

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