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bu-bu-but the LJ Fanboys were telling me all year that every team without a qb was gonna try getting lamar, and if we don't wanna pay him then they will. 🤣
I think the ravens need to get rid of lamar. It’s like having a gf/bf. You should not have to fight tooth and nail to keep them, as it is a partnership, as you guys alluded to earlier, and if one side does not want to stay, then the ravens should have confidence in their ability to find another qb who actually wants to be here. Lamar is driving everyone crazy and even if he does come back, I won’t be happy to see him under center for us, as it is clear he only cares about himself, and doesn’t give a damn about this team or his teammates. (Side note but how many game winning go ahead TOUCHDOWN drives has lamar generated for us? I can’t remember a single one off the top of my head and he’s been our quarterback for 5 YEARS! I am not counting field goals because we have Justin tucker and field goal range for him doesn’t require us to drive down the field too much. Just as lamar showed us during his time with us, when you need him most, he doesn’t deliver and it is applying again in the contract negotiations, or lack thereof on one’s end).
When you look at Lamar’s history, he doesn’t seem to trust anyone. He doesn’t trust an Agent, he wouldn’t get the vaccine because he didn’t trust it, he used his own Trainer because he didn’t trust the Ravens and he wouldn’t play because he didn’t trust the doctors. Maybe that’s just him.
I recommend you boys watch what Pat Mcafee said in his show about the Lamar contract. Also, Lamar won passing the ball in 2019, but we only were shown more highlights of his running than passing making you think the GRo system made him better when it not, it was just a way to ease him in the speed of the NFL because remember Lamar in college played under a Pro Passing Scheme that open up lanes for him to run in case everyone was covered. In 2020 he complained about the system and in you recall in 2021 he wanted to pass cause of no RBs and Harbs didn't let him for 3 quarters until it was save us Lamar time like in the colts game. Last year you send Hollywood away and didn't replace him, everyone was calling GRo to go before the season started cause we all knew you cant replicate 2019, they tried and failed. Lamar is the offense and there is no game scheme since 2020 because they know Lamar will save them because of his talent. Its a way to sabotage a player to get him for cheap on offense like we did with our WRs and with Flacco post SB. cause in 2016 we redid his contract to go get "weapons" and we got none, same with 2017, and nothing happened. But "Defense wins championships" not since the 2000 Ravens, rules have changed and offenses wins SBs but Bisciotti is not into that, if he did we would have given Lamar weapons after 2019, he would have sign him in 2020 to an Allen type deal, he wouldn't just offer 133 at signing and 42 later on IN THOSE 3 years!!, Yes the 175 is only for 3 years IF he gets hurt which tells you that after that happens they can cut him loose BEFORE getting to the 200mil in year 3!!! So Lamar is correct on saying 133mil for 3 years in a 5 year contract is guaranteed cause if he get injured and the type of injury he got is not listed in the injury guaranteed he looses the money and can get cut for that, like your insurance, your insurance doesnt cover this so so sorry PAY IT WITH YOUR OWN MONEY!
ATL isn't out because of Heineke because if a trade is done with Atlanta Im sure they will send Ridder to us. We can't get a QB unless we get the Raiders pick or higher unless we trade up so they better give us Ridder. The media is dogging Ridder but I've been on ATLs fan pages and they love him and most of their fans actually don't want Lamar. They have been saying it for months. I think PFF was high on him too last year, whatever that matters. As far as the Raiders, Jimmy Gs name didn't come up much I. FA. Idk how much the Raiders paid him but it's possible they told him he may or may not be the starter. And if that was his only or highest offer he would take it. But if he got starter money then the Raiders are out.
Thanks for what y'all do. Just like the morning vault with Bobby and Sarah. Y'all give level headed takes and don't breed pessimism and hate for the franchise like another YouTuber and his fans
Im with Lamar all the way, let me get that out front 1st. The Ravens put themselves in this bind. Smart business people think ahead of the curve, they dont follow it.
When Lamar win MVP in 2019, and the ENTIRE football world saw how special he is, they should have locked him up then. The Bulls were smart, they took care of Alen BEFORE the Watson 230 contract. Once Alwn signed, the Ravens should have locked up Lamar!
They waited too ling! This is on them. They were too comfortable paying a Unanimous MVP 1.7 million dollars!!! Shame in them for not having the foresight. Hes been severely underpaid his entire time as a Raven! Guess what, The Bills Come Due!
🤣🤣🤣… So, after touching the ball over 2300 times (running + passing) over the past 5 years, accounting for nearly 70% of the offensive production while investing the least amount of capital into relative to the league during that span…
For $32M TOTAL EARNINGS over his career ($23M of which was in YEAR 5)…
The Ravens want MORE FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT COMPENSATION?!!?
I love the Ravens but why should LJ trust them. They don’t invest in offense never paid a WR for him not a single one. Instead they get one on clearance.
Everyone has their opinion. Fact is, we respect yours, respect his. He sees it the way he does and he has his reasons. We all just want him signed. Some say pay, some say move on but it’s all because we want it done and over with. He’s willing to wait. The Ravens are willing to let other offers dictate what they want to do next. So we have to wait it out. That’s the facts. If LJ wins this battle, all other QBs will be thanking him for his stance from here on.
I think that LJ WANTS the Ravens specifically to pay him. He doesn’t want it from anyone else. But he wants his money. He wants more than Watson in every way. It’s big to him.
46:00 This is the type of propaganda thats being put out to slander Lamar and you guys are falling for it.Notice how they have the full number of years next to all the QBs but for Lamar it has 3 years to try and make his average guaranteed number look higher.The truth is the Ravens offered him a 6 year deal so if you put his correct years up his average would be 22.15 mill annual guaranteed which is lower than everybody on the list.Ravens fans just don’t want to admit the front office has fumbled this whole situation by lowballing Lamar.I guess it’s easier for yall to pretend like Lamar is being greedy by not accepting this low offer from the Ravens.The offer was 6 years 290 mill with an out after 3 years.If Lamar was cut after the 3 years he’d only get 133 mill.The 175 and 200 mill guaranteed numbers are complete bullshit
If Lamar fails to get any offers, as it seems likely, and wants to re-engage with the Ravens, I hope the Ravens bring up their last great offer they had for him, but with significant reductions commensurate with his true worth. It has become fashionable to say Deshaun Watsons deal is “one-off.” Careful analysis more than suggests it is Lamar’s MVP that is one-off!! The Ravens bold new offensive approach implemented by Lamar, caught the league off guard. Consider the can of whoop-ass the Ravens put on the Rams in a nationally televised game – one year before the Rams wIn the SB. Where the Rams that bad, or unprepared for new concept offense?
The deal the Ravens were pushing out to Lamar is pure TRASH! No matter how you two homers try to make it alright. It just is not. Cheap arse Ravens team deserves what they get. They should have signed Lamar two years ago!
The Lamar tweet is easy to understand… He's pointing out the contradicting narratives around his contract. People want to call him out for not taking the money, while also saying he needs an agent to get paid. He got an offer that would make him PAID, he just knows he should get more
Lamar told yall his contract and you so fucking unbelievably munching on the ravens crouch cant even see they lied he told yall what HE WAS OFFERED wtf am i missing here
I do not believe the ravens or Lamar leaked it you’re they have been loyal to each other, and not trying to cross the lines of pissing each other off no matter what ESPN says There, too loyal I think the NFL PA leaked it.
Why are you guys saying that this is partnership? That’s crazy talk there’s not even a partnership between coaches. So Lamar deserves subpar money and he should just accept it.
Why is the news media able to see Lamar’s contract? That was all the ravens trying to put his business out there to make him look bad I hope Lamar doesn’t play in Baltimore ever again they don’t deserve a play like him
See you guys are really really crazy. The two years that we were first and second off next was because of Lamar. It wasn’t because of Greg Roman and a damn sure wasn’t because of Joe Flacco y’all trippin
bu-bu-but the LJ Fanboys were telling me all year that every team without a qb was gonna try getting lamar, and if we don't wanna pay him then they will. 🤣
Remember Lamar has already lost a TON of money! He his the the quarterback we have EVER had! Pay the man!
$175 isn’t $230 though which is what Deshaun got. I’m sure he wants to push the “Injury” guarantees as far over $200 as he can.
I think Lamar will just act like he's injured all the time
I think the ravens need to get rid of lamar. It’s like having a gf/bf. You should not have to fight tooth and nail to keep them, as it is a partnership, as you guys alluded to earlier, and if one side does not want to stay, then the ravens should have confidence in their ability to find another qb who actually wants to be here. Lamar is driving everyone crazy and even if he does come back, I won’t be happy to see him under center for us, as it is clear he only cares about himself, and doesn’t give a damn about this team or his teammates. (Side note but how many game winning go ahead TOUCHDOWN drives has lamar generated for us? I can’t remember a single one off the top of my head and he’s been our quarterback for 5 YEARS! I am not counting field goals because we have Justin tucker and field goal range for him doesn’t require us to drive down the field too much. Just as lamar showed us during his time with us, when you need him most, he doesn’t deliver and it is applying again in the contract negotiations, or lack thereof on one’s end).
When you look at Lamar’s history, he doesn’t seem to trust anyone. He doesn’t trust an Agent, he wouldn’t get the vaccine because he didn’t trust it, he used his own Trainer because he didn’t trust the Ravens and he wouldn’t play because he didn’t trust the doctors. Maybe that’s just him.
I recommend you boys watch what Pat Mcafee said in his show about the Lamar contract. Also, Lamar won passing the ball in 2019, but we only were shown more highlights of his running than passing making you think the GRo system made him better when it not, it was just a way to ease him in the speed of the NFL because remember Lamar in college played under a Pro Passing Scheme that open up lanes for him to run in case everyone was covered. In 2020 he complained about the system and in you recall in 2021 he wanted to pass cause of no RBs and Harbs didn't let him for 3 quarters until it was save us Lamar time like in the colts game. Last year you send Hollywood away and didn't replace him, everyone was calling GRo to go before the season started cause we all knew you cant replicate 2019, they tried and failed. Lamar is the offense and there is no game scheme since 2020 because they know Lamar will save them because of his talent. Its a way to sabotage a player to get him for cheap on offense like we did with our WRs and with Flacco post SB. cause in 2016 we redid his contract to go get "weapons" and we got none, same with 2017, and nothing happened. But "Defense wins championships" not since the 2000 Ravens, rules have changed and offenses wins SBs but Bisciotti is not into that, if he did we would have given Lamar weapons after 2019, he would have sign him in 2020 to an Allen type deal, he wouldn't just offer 133 at signing and 42 later on IN THOSE 3 years!!, Yes the 175 is only for 3 years IF he gets hurt which tells you that after that happens they can cut him loose BEFORE getting to the 200mil in year 3!!! So Lamar is correct on saying 133mil for 3 years in a 5 year contract is guaranteed cause if he get injured and the type of injury he got is not listed in the injury guaranteed he looses the money and can get cut for that, like your insurance, your insurance doesnt cover this so so sorry PAY IT WITH YOUR OWN MONEY!
The Colts are trying to pursue him!!
The lack off weapons , you spent that money on the D
We just create players for other teams!
ATL isn't out because of Heineke because if a trade is done with Atlanta Im sure they will send Ridder to us. We can't get a QB unless we get the Raiders pick or higher unless we trade up so they better give us Ridder. The media is dogging Ridder but I've been on ATLs fan pages and they love him and most of their fans actually don't want Lamar. They have been saying it for months. I think PFF was high on him too last year, whatever that matters. As far as the Raiders, Jimmy Gs name didn't come up much I. FA. Idk how much the Raiders paid him but it's possible they told him he may or may not be the starter. And if that was his only or highest offer he would take it. But if he got starter money then the Raiders are out.
Lamar said 3 yr 133
I’m so glad you guys addressed the “we should’ve fired Gro years ago” narrative. He was literally this franchises most accomplished OC.
Thanks for what y'all do. Just like the morning vault with Bobby and Sarah. Y'all give level headed takes and don't breed pessimism and hate for the franchise like another YouTuber and his fans
Im with Lamar all the way, let me get that out front 1st. The Ravens put themselves in this bind. Smart business people think ahead of the curve, they dont follow it.
When Lamar win MVP in 2019, and the ENTIRE football world saw how special he is, they should have locked him up then. The Bulls were smart, they took care of Alen BEFORE the Watson 230 contract. Once Alwn signed, the Ravens should have locked up Lamar!
They waited too ling! This is on them. They were too comfortable paying a Unanimous MVP 1.7 million dollars!!! Shame in them for not having the foresight. Hes been severely underpaid his entire time as a Raven! Guess what, The Bills Come Due!
* won, * long, *
What has Baltimore done to foster trust with Lamar since 2018? I'm asking honestly.
Look at the moves (or lack thereof) over the course of the past five years and see if they help or hurt Lamar thus far.
Not worried at all ravens ready to match whatever let the colts or Washington write the contract
🤣🤣🤣… So, after touching the ball over 2300 times (running + passing) over the past 5 years, accounting for nearly 70% of the offensive production while investing the least amount of capital into relative to the league during that span…
For $32M TOTAL EARNINGS over his career ($23M of which was in YEAR 5)…
The Ravens want MORE FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT COMPENSATION?!!?
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Im the biggest LJ fan there is, but he is clearly only concerned abou getting his money, not winning.
I love the Ravens but why should LJ trust them. They don’t invest in offense never paid a WR for him not a single one. Instead they get one on clearance.
Everyone has their opinion. Fact is, we respect yours, respect his. He sees it the way he does and he has his reasons. We all just want him signed. Some say pay, some say move on but it’s all because we want it done and over with. He’s willing to wait. The Ravens are willing to let other offers dictate what they want to do next. So we have to wait it out. That’s the facts. If LJ wins this battle, all other QBs will be thanking him for his stance from here on.
I think that LJ WANTS the Ravens specifically to pay him. He doesn’t want it from anyone else. But he wants his money. He wants more than Watson in every way. It’s big to him.
46:00 This is the type of propaganda thats being put out to slander Lamar and you guys are falling for it.Notice how they have the full number of years next to all the QBs but for Lamar it has 3 years to try and make his average guaranteed number look higher.The truth is the Ravens offered him a 6 year deal so if you put his correct years up his average would be 22.15 mill annual guaranteed which is lower than everybody on the list.Ravens fans just don’t want to admit the front office has fumbled this whole situation by lowballing Lamar.I guess it’s easier for yall to pretend like Lamar is being greedy by not accepting this low offer from the Ravens.The offer was 6 years 290 mill with an out after 3 years.If Lamar was cut after the 3 years he’d only get 133 mill.The 175 and 200 mill guaranteed numbers are complete bullshit
Love Jimbo points!… All the good vibes for you, guys.
If Lamar fails to get any offers, as it seems likely, and wants to re-engage with the Ravens, I hope the Ravens bring up their last great offer they had for him, but with significant reductions commensurate with his true worth. It has become fashionable to say Deshaun Watsons deal is “one-off.” Careful analysis more than suggests it is Lamar’s MVP that is one-off!! The Ravens bold new offensive approach implemented by Lamar, caught the league off guard. Consider the can of whoop-ass the Ravens put on the Rams in a nationally televised game – one year before the Rams wIn the SB. Where the Rams that bad, or unprepared for new concept offense?
The deal the Ravens were pushing out to Lamar is pure TRASH! No matter how you two homers try to make it alright. It just is not. Cheap arse Ravens team deserves what they get. They should have signed Lamar two years ago!
You two need to show your official Ravens pay checks! Biased anyone?
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The injury clause in this contract is trash. The springer 25 million dollar clause is staright trash.
Adams has been telling lies for a while now! They should call him Click Bait Adam!
Tryna down orlando brown but he got a ring and lamar aint gone get one with yall cus the coach cant draft or coach plus he leaving
The Lamar tweet is easy to understand… He's pointing out the contradicting narratives around his contract. People want to call him out for not taking the money, while also saying he needs an agent to get paid. He got an offer that would make him PAID, he just knows he should get more
Lamar told yall his contract and you so fucking unbelievably munching on the ravens crouch cant even see they lied he told yall what HE WAS OFFERED wtf am i missing here
I do not believe the ravens or Lamar leaked it you’re they have been loyal to each other, and not trying to cross the lines of pissing each other off no matter what ESPN says There, too loyal I think the NFL PA leaked it.
He said with injury at the end
The chiefs won Super Bowls.
Why are you guys saying that this is partnership? That’s crazy talk there’s not even a partnership between coaches. So Lamar deserves subpar money and he should just accept it.
Just trade him if you feel that way the Ravens are done if Lamar leaves you guys are crazy
Why is the news media able to see Lamar’s contract? That was all the ravens trying to put his business out there to make him look bad I hope Lamar doesn’t play in Baltimore ever again they don’t deserve a play like him
See you guys are really really crazy. The two years that we were first and second off next was because of Lamar. It wasn’t because of Greg Roman and a damn sure wasn’t because of Joe Flacco y’all trippin