ASPI Senior Defence Analyst Malcolm Davis says the Virginia-class submarines are the “most advanced nuclear-powered submarines” in service.
“Essentially, they are extremely quiet, and in submarine warfare, quietness is gold,” Mr Davis told Sky News host Peta Credlin.
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When though- ADF been banging on about this for a decade- should have been instant after betraying French. It takes years to master submarines- the simulators and trainers have not even been built (ie submarine fire and flood control simulators).
Australia should have built all the training facilities by now and a rescue sub, have at least one half a submarine crew in active duty in OHIO or whatever the latest US class is, and another half training sub crew on land.2nd ADF done nothing to increase manpower.
Meanwhile Indonesia 2023 expands military defence spitting out LHD's, FREMM and Mogami class frigates, auxiliary ships: oilers heavy landing craft, hydrographic surveyors, complete T-o-T with Thales, DAMEN, Fincantieri, EADS def, Rheinmetal, etc
things get outdated quick. but if ur buying them… then someone else has them.
ots in the press about the new Nuclear Submarines, and peple asking how we are going to afford it…..
the answer is simple:
1. A defence tax on all goods inported from nations deemed to be a potential threat to Auatralian sovereignty. Say 15% extra tax.
2. A defence levy on new migrants for the first decade of life in Australia, which is refundable IF they serve 3 years in the Defence Force (or Reserves) AND get a suitable rating for each year they serve.
Does this mean will give the Virginia Class boats back when the UK subs arrive?
Long overdue. Should’ve and could’ve been done 25 years ago.
Australia has had personnel training with Brit and US submariners for 40 years or more.
Astute are supposedly brilliant as long as we don’t stuff them up.
‘If you want peace, prepare for war’.
Cmon sky, it will be the yet to be designed SSN(R), not the Astute which will a start leaving service in 2040.
The next step is for Australia to have a serious national conversation about developing a nuclear industry.
The Australian mainland is and has been a nuclear target for some time now (by the Soviets and now the Chinese) – because of American millitary installations like the Pine Gap. It's inevitable and unavoidable.
Why sweat over the so-called nuclear-free Pacific when Pacific Islands are all too happy to host Chinese military bases in their territories.
We live in a very different world to 30 years ago. As the cliche goes, "the only constant is change," so why resist it. It's time to re-evaluate our position, widen our options, and take action now before it is too late.
I actually like this deal… polical and capability. My only worry is manning. If anyone been on a Sub, it takes a special person to serve on them. Its claustrophobic, no personal space, under deep water for months on end. Limited contact with family. Can we man (what is it 14 subs? ). Capability sounds great, but you neeed the crews.
oh no…, Wong will be not happy.
When can we get one of these? I just would like one .
Sleeping
Bassicly ?
hey the early 2000's called, some block called collin is on the phone
People allow for evil to flourish.
People support evil forces
People do evil.
Then what does one expect?
Evil will get everybody.
We are all guilty
But five is not enough to take down the Evil Empire that the United States has recently become.
sounds like aus is being shaken down AGAIN by u.s. pirates but hey aus is just a tit to be milked right
Thats right get these war peddlers on to spruke the usa line. ASPI receives funding from defence contractors such as Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, Northrop Grumman, Thales Group and Raytheon Technologies.
This has been going on for a long time !
we are behind in submarine construction here in the us how they going to build more
Would much prefer to see that amount of money spent on a family of different missiles systems & huge amounts of cheap disposable drones. Add strategic depth to our nation, before projecting power abroad. Nobody is coming to save us .
We can't build cars and now going too build submarines .what a joke. A trillion dollar nightmare. We can't get enough quality people now in the armed forces,so who is going too crew these boats.That will be interesting 🤔
Apex predator ask the Astute class ..the quietest class Submarine at sea 🇬🇧
About time that Australia obtained Nuclear boats given the size of the area of interest they have, if they had went for a new diesel electric boat it would be basically be a fuel tank with a submarine attached.
Good advancement for Australia. Will assist in keeping their territories safe and secure.
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Building submarines here in Australia will cost us 3-4 times more than what we would spend on just purchasing them from the supplier. We did this with the Collins and the prices were astronomical for what we got.
At the last minute Australia will cancel the deal opting for Chinese made boats. They have the ' form '.
With the constant flooding in Australia being on a submarine just makes sense.
You're gonna implore China or probably Russia for a glass of water.
u neeed them and u need your old ones to for close to home warfare and need the nukes for far work all.
The aukus agreement one of my many great PERSONAL achievements this will boost australia's defense capability in the face of china's over growing expansion in the region and beyond you're fuckin welcome australia TELL HI TO JOE BIDEN AND RISHI SUNAK
But no money for a naval base in north-west of Australia… 🤔 A diesel sub + a naval base > nuclear sub left alone. Subs are useless against well protected modern naval bases and China will have these in PNG, Solomon, Vanuatu, … They are also useless against military convoys. Subs are only effective to cut off enemy supply lines 😕 But if Australia decides to cut off iron ore supples a phone call to BHP would be enough. So, what these subs are for?
If China is against it, it's bound to be a good idea.
No doubt Britain has been shafted during these negotiations ! We always are
Should have happened years ago
The New UK SSN,R isn't ASTUTE class. It's a complete different class. The ASTUTE don't have a VLS the new SSN.R will
Australia can have whatever it want's, if they keep the politicians and grifters out of it.
Excellent excellent excellent decision making by Australian government. It is my long time dream that, one day this nation is going to be protected from the Chinese dragon. God is great.
Bye bye France
I can’t believe this is even worth talking about like wtf is 5 subs going to do seriously we need hundreds of them not less then half a dozen 😂 this is a joke surely is this an early April fools day😂
5 poxy ass subs WOW 😂