47 thoughts on “An Infinite Dilemma of Bliss and Suffering”
If there's zero chance of going back to the universe you came from, then surely the universe of suffering is the one to choose. Because you know that eventually it would be over; bliss would come, and it would be blissful forever. Right? 🤔
You just described the real world, heaven and hell. It would be better to live in the agony with the hope of eternal bliss. The best scenario would be to attempt achieving a heaven on earth with the hope of eternal bliss afterwards . For a God fearing person I believe this to be the natural order that was intended. It will be our oun destiny to choose how we will live today and by God's grace will determine our eternal condition.
If one never knows bliss then how can they truly suffer? There’s nothing you can take away after a certain point it’s homeostasis anyway plus he would always have infinite hope
A better universe: infinite immortals, suffering moderately, with most moving into eternal bliss. But, every day, a space in the land of eternal suffering is opened up for people who play music on their phone's speaker on public transport.
Let A be the set of people in the initial universe and f : |N -> A be an injective funktion, where on the day j the human f(j) is send to the other universe.
Is f surjective? ( A must be countable)
This is important, because otherwise there are people that will never change universes. It's also important to know, if A is countable at all. Who would care about a lebesgue null set of people suffering for all eternity in this senario? Not me.
Edit: On seconds though, if #(Arange f)<infi it would still be better, If the people start in the "universe of suffering".
If you disagree with me, you are ether bad at ethics or math.
Happiness if a function of what is expected vs what is experienced, meaning any infinite unchanging existence becomes torture for the human mind before it ever really becomes infinite. In either of these universes, there is a 100% chance of being tortured for eternity.
In order for me to provide a sensible, foolproof answer and logical argument, I will need to drink to excess, probably smoke some substance, be in a totally relaxed state, and then watch this video again. My brain will then be at optimal condition to provide the answer and its irrefutable reasons. I'll do it tomorrow after pay day.
If you live forever, time would be meaningless and wouldn’t exist. Therefore you would be in both universes simultaneously and also in neither universe. It would all happen at the same “time”.
I mean i know I'm immortal but will still be me after enduring the suffering for so long? What exactly does bliss mean? Maybe simply losing my mind and no longer be able to feel the suffering is a bliss in it's own way 🤔
statistically it is possible to never go to the other universe. If there is an infinite number of people, then by definition you could never get through them all
In my experience I would say both of the universes are equal and purely codependent and here is my reasoning for a universe of pure bliss you need true suffer a fate worse than death to for true suffering a far worse than death you need to have known true bliss so both universes are needed to keep the cycle perpetually infinite they need each other so the suffering can still suffer and the joyful and blissful and still be in pure ecstasy from the freedom of suffering
The universe is, they might be linked so if you come in the one that’s filled with hope you might be transported to the one and then one day you might be transferred back to the one suffering
That means 1=0 if its infinite it couod be that infinitely a human is born in that universe and each day one dissapears. So its like a loop. Since infinity never ends there must be new people born everyday.
If there's zero chance of going back to the universe you came from, then surely the universe of suffering is the one to choose. Because you know that eventually it would be over; bliss would come, and it would be blissful forever. Right? 🤔
Does it depends upon probability bcz it'll be like 1 in an infinity. Those are some odds.
give your life to christ people
A Christian understands that you just described life on earth for us that believe in JESUS CHRIST.
Universe of suffering, because at some point in time, the suffering will end in exchange for infinite bliss. The reward outweighs the cost.
You just described the real world, heaven and hell. It would be better to live in the agony with the hope of eternal bliss. The best scenario would be to attempt achieving a heaven on earth with the hope of eternal bliss afterwards . For a God fearing person I believe this to be the natural order that was intended. It will be our oun destiny to choose how we will live today and by God's grace will determine our eternal condition.
The suffeeing world cause you eventually get bliss
Who gives a fuck??? Bc no such place exist!!!!
If one never knows bliss then how can they truly suffer? There’s nothing you can take away after a certain point it’s homeostasis anyway plus he would always have infinite hope
bruh, unless im being retared both universes are the same.
I choose the second one. Hardship and suffering is what life is, the eternal reward of bliss and happiness is a retirement plan.
you're messing with us
that back ground music…
Congratulations u just explained the earth from the former perspective so ya my answer is obvious
One: define suffering Two: We are not eternal
Imagine choosing universe 1 and getting sent to suffer after the first day.
So why do we live in Universe 3 again? 😅
Well considering we’re all pretty much living in Universe 2, this one I guess. Lmao.
Universe 2
There is no such thing as an infinite number, only infinite sets.
The second is literally mathematically infinitely better than the other in every way
I'm glad michael isn't a god
Im mister meeseeks look at me…. Existence is pain……
1/infinity is 0 and 1/infinity is the chance you have to go and suffer. There is a zero percent chance you have to suffer
A better universe: infinite immortals, suffering moderately, with most moving into eternal bliss. But, every day, a space in the land of eternal suffering is opened up for people who play music on their phone's speaker on public transport.
A google is nothing compared to eternity, I'll take option 2
The universe where Miss Universe is not a transvestite
You leave open a fundamental question:
Let A be the set of people in the initial universe and
f : |N -> A
be an injective funktion, where on the day j the human f(j) is send to the other universe.
Is f surjective? ( A must be countable)
This is important, because otherwise there are people that will never change universes. It's also important to know, if A is countable at all. Who would care about a lebesgue null set of people suffering for all eternity in this senario? Not me.
Edit:
On seconds though, if
#(Arange f)<infi it would still be better, If the people start in the "universe of suffering".
If you disagree with me, you are ether bad at ethics or math.
The suffering
man i’m already suicidal can we switch the subject 😒
If you take one away from infinity, it's not infinite any longer.
Happiness if a function of what is expected vs what is experienced, meaning any infinite unchanging existence becomes torture for the human mind before it ever really becomes infinite.
In either of these universes, there is a 100% chance of being tortured for eternity.
Obviously the second wtf hahahaha
the second because no matter how long your suffering lasts it is guaranteed to eventually end
This was NOT the best video to watch while brushing my teeth before bed this evening
I’ll take second universe, because no matter how long I stay in suffering, I know that I’ll be in bliss for so much longer
It is always better to have a defined downside, with an undefined upside, than the opposite.
In order for me to provide a sensible, foolproof answer and logical argument, I will need to drink to excess, probably smoke some substance, be in a totally relaxed state, and then watch this video again. My brain will then be at optimal condition to provide the answer and its irrefutable reasons. I'll do it tomorrow after pay day.
If you live forever, time would be meaningless and wouldn’t exist. Therefore you would be in both universes simultaneously and also in neither universe. It would all happen at the same “time”.
Time is coming for you vsauce.
I mean i know I'm immortal but will still be me after enduring the suffering for so long? What exactly does bliss mean? Maybe simply losing my mind and no longer be able to feel the suffering is a bliss in it's own way 🤔
statistically it is possible to never go to the other universe. If there is an infinite number of people, then by definition you could never get through them all
In my experience I would say both of the universes are equal and purely codependent and here is my reasoning for a universe of pure bliss you need true suffer a fate worse than death to for true suffering a far worse than death you need to have known true bliss so both universes are needed to keep the cycle perpetually infinite they need each other so the suffering can still suffer and the joyful and blissful and still be in pure ecstasy from the freedom of suffering
I guess depends in the perspective. But I don't bother trying to answer these philosophical questions because it has no practical application
the second one is better because you get bliss for a long time afterwords and as they say "no pain no gain"
The universe is, they might be linked so if you come in the one that’s filled with hope you might be transported to the one and then one day you might be transferred back to the one suffering
Anyone wanna go hiking?
That means 1=0 if its infinite it couod be that infinitely a human is born in that universe and each day one dissapears. So its like a loop. Since infinity never ends there must be new people born everyday.