The story of Zen 5 continues with lots more disappointment.
Shoutout to @Hardwareunboxed for being absolute legends!
Chapters
00:00 – Here we go again
00:52 – Price & Specs
01:10 – Cinebench
02:14 – Timed Linux Kernel Compile
02:43 – Testing Configuration
03:32 – Counter Strike 2
04:26 – Shadow Of The Tomb Raider
05:15 – Cyberpunk 2077
05:49 – Horizon Zero Dawn
06:32 – COD
07:17 – 5 Game Average
07:49 – Hardware Unboxed – 13 Game Average
08:17 – Here is the story
09:45 – Conclusion
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At least the 9950X is a better buy then the 9600X and 9700X as a productivity CPU. Still too expensive!
no X3D = no buy
More like; Whyzen 9000, amirite? 😂
I'll see myself out…
Ah yes the algo strikes again. Thanks YT for burying our video again.
How does it do with vr?
I'm patiently waiting to replace my 5600x and 5700xt with beefy components for my vr sim rig…but don't see much vr testing anywhere: /
For me title is wrong. Zen 5 is awesome CPU's with is's efficiency/performance balance…. The only thing wrong with them is ABSURD prices , they will have to go down else this cpu's won't sell .
The comparisons that actually matter, here.
AMD marketing promised so much, and what they delivered were higher prices. This was a node reduction disguised as architectural. TSMC promised lower costs for 4 nm, lets see if buyers or even AMD ever see it.
Like Aussies
They had basically two years and this is what they release…hahahahah. I guess it's good that both Intel and AMD are both fumbling, so we can still have some sort of competition 🙂
Swing and a miss…
GG AMD
As disappointing as zen5 is, AMD should have priced these CPUs properly… Same current prices as the 7600, 7700, 7900 and 7950x, I didn't miss any X
Can someone explain to me core parking? Why would a 12core cpu park the cores if its not an x3d??
please add unreal engine benchmarks too. its the real world application for this type of cpu. Compile the latest version from source and also compile shader(cache cleared).
edit: make sure its not ram or i/o bottlenecked.
Thanks!
sorry, how much percent better did you say? i dont think it's mentioned anywhere…
Wait for Zen 6 now 😂
i call zen 5 an epyc failure
The reason why 7950X was 30% faster than the 5950X was because the 7950X was on a new socket and DDR5 compared to DDR4. DDR5 has 50% more bandwith than DDR4 which gave a huge boost for the 7950X.
Tests on Linux and gets double digit performance increase
Tests on Windows and only gets single digits
Yeah sure, blame AMD here…
You get 5%+ while consuming considerably less power and on lower temps
PBO is the least efficient way to overclock Zen 5 as we've seen with the R5 and R7 benchmarks from many OC oriented reviewers
You can absolutely increase horsepower by an additional 5-10% without increasing watt consumption. Yes this is AMD's fault but not one where the consumer cannot fix with simple BIOS tinkering, making it a great value CPU, especially in a couple of months with the expected price drops, since reviewers like you have given Zen 5 a bad name.
🤏"You can literally see it!" 👌
The 4564P is just a 7950 with an epyc name scribbled on top. 2 memory channels? 28 pcie lanes? That's not Epyc
ZEN 5 or ZEN 5% Lols!!!That was a good one!!!
i have a feeling that the x870e motherboard is where the 9000 series will shine. I'll wait on that review .
From what I have been observing the 9000 series seems like a refresh 🤔
With the release of 9000 series, I'm compelled to upgrade to 7000 series.
It's interesting to see how close the Epyc is to the two Ryzens here. It seems the 9950x performs best in productivity benchmarks, so it might be interesting to see how it compares with the Epyc in more server based or scientific/simulation workloads.
What is the CL on the RAM? I wonder if it improves with CL30 or CL28?
When will you guys review the NZXT H7 Flow (2024) case? I guess you haven't made the video of it
Good comparison! I just built an Epyc 4584PX system (7950X3D) on a Supermicro board to run a couple dozen VMs. Fully loaded it idles at 61W and is significantly faster than the 24 core Epyc 7402p system it replaced. Now if they could only make a good RAID solution…
Seriously think about this. Wendel of Level1Techs found that he was able to get 10 extra frames in Cyberpunk by running the game as an Administrator. What does that tell you about Ryzen 5 on Windows.
does that epyc boot on consumer am5 boards?
Sounds like Zen 5% isnt worth buying…. Until prices drop 20-30%
The real issue is the new motherboards arent out yet. Faster infinity fabric clocks are needed and support for better timings are needed for higher 1:1 RAM.
With regards to the Uplift we saw from AM4 to AM5, that was purely down to higher clocks and newer memory support.
If we can get the fabric to run at 2500mhz with a 1:1 timing on the 9950X with a DDR5 kit thats running at 7000, perhaps we will actually see a difference.
Thats all I think we can look out for on these….
the only bench that matters is linux compilation time the another ones are for kids.
The epyc comparison was a nifty comparison.
I've seen some articles talking about turning smt off for better performance. I get that's not a real world practical solution, but that would be another interesting angle.
The 9000 series work great on Linux so it must be a Windows issue.
Made in China? What??? What is the sense of invading Taiwan then if China can produce chips for AMD with the same technological process?
AMD claiming its numbers based on using their own gpu, that can use Smart Access Memory.
Intel is going the i9 9th gen again since one sku seems to have same core/thread count but lga 1700.
These should be called zen 5 super. Same with 4070 and 4080 super being less price but 5% better performance.
Only thing i care about is proformance.. that isnt what we got from AMD.. seems like they been on break for 2 years
Zen 5 should be called Zen 4+
I feel you were pretty harsh with amd on your review. I know i don’t have to like your review but you could miss lead some people from other reviewers. There is a issue with windows decreasing performance by 6 to 8 % do to administrator issue. The video is out for a current fix and windows update to soon come. That will make your test results if you didn’t do the fix change and up lift the 5% marks you got more of what they marketed. And as we all know marketing is marketing so thats why we have reviews. You may want to do a retest of your info states when updates come out.
Faster and more expensive. Sounds like a new generation. Never trust an AMD benchmark. Their marking strategy here has been deplorable.