Today, we’re taking a look at every nerf and buff in gen 9!
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Ed you forgot to say that your sexiness got buffed and the haters got nerfed
"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." (before DLC :p)
Some of these nerfs are absolutely needed others are harsh and unjustified
Thanks!
I understand the motivation to remove moves from certain Mons, but I don't particularly like it.
Used to be that if you wanted certain moves on certain Pokemon, it was a challenge in itself just to get the set all in one place. Importing egg moves and breeding from one gen, teaching TMs or using tutors in another; it was a nuisance, but after the Virtual Console brought back RBY and GSC with connectivity, it meant you could have any theoretical combination of moves on a Pokemon across over 20 years of options.
Guess that should've been obvious to me the way they changed Banked/Homed moves with the Legends: Arceus update earlier this year, but Gen 9 solidifies it.
Apart from that Gen 6 event I think you could teach Sludge Wave to Gengar in Gen 8.
Bad news for Cinderace and Greninja: Swords Dance is a Normal type move.
The fact that they nerfed stall THIS badly is insane, because they've basically rendered stall useless now.
Also, Krookodile losing Darkest Lariat is a crime. Sure, he gained some decent moves, but at the cost of a GREAT one.
Also, Swords Dance is Normal, not Fighting.
Happy about the Breloom buffs. I found a Shiny Shroomish in my Scarlet game, which unfortunately didn't end up as a Technician Breloom but with those buffs I am now eager and quite excited to be honest to try out a non-Technician Breloom instead.
The change in H-Braviary was very much needed since it's a special attacker and I'm glad they fixed it so quickly and not after a whole generation or two.
Kinda ironic that they took High Horsepower away from Glastrier who is totally not a horse.
Rotom Fan still has Levitate. 😀 I know this is a consistency thing with the other Rotoms but imo they should not have Levitate in the first place except for the base form since they are fused with heavy appliances. I would love it if each got an ability to reflect their form better.
RIP Rillaboom.
All am hearing are name of moves I really can't tell if these are buff or nerfs. Am kind of very casual since I always play alone. But it does sound like alot have happen.
Some are weird, some are good, some are definitely aimed towards stall both as good and overkill
hey dont you just love it when The Pokemon Comapany completely changes the way the is played and nerfs everything you love to high heavy making the game unplayable for old players, especially in the point in their history when they have over 1000 pokemon?
I SURE FUCKIN DO!!!!
Why would they take away the only move that made Rillaboom good…
F for Zamazenta, he definitely didn't need the nerf
Finally lol ive looked this video up like 3 times already for nobody to have maxe it thank youu!
Its funny that stall was nerfed and ill still have 30 turn games lol
They really should have replaced scald but like now theres no medium strength special water move
Comfee being gone is a nerf to everything in the game
Why did they do charizard dirty like he was a good pokemon 😂🤣 he only has like 3 forms because hes ass normaly poor guy
Was dual wingbeat a tm thing cause like my eviolite scyther needsss that shit aeriel ace doesnt cut it
Bruh toxic is like half of vaporeons id lol homie is basicly a poison water why do him so dirty
Makes sense to 86 defog with all the new rapid spin moves
Liquidation on garchomp? Do i smell a new form coming for him in the dlc?
I know hes god and all but like did arceus need a buff lmao
So we got chesnaught buffs and no chesnaught!? Come back bbg
Bruh scorching sands is out of the game too!? Why didnt they mention they when they told us about scald i didnt even notice until i just checked
Galarian Zapdos lost Blaze Kick, because Arceus forbid any of the Galarian birds get coverage.
I hear Battle Bond's effect changed too, so no transformation for ninja frog anymore. Seems like they wanna erase the form completely.
you skip h goodra
I could understand Zacian nerf it was busted, but Zamazenta didn't really need a nerf.
My favorite buffs are Overqwil and Hisuian Goodra. They're some of my favorite Hisuian Pokémon and I was really disappointed that they didn't get good STAB. So Overqwil getting Crunch and Goodra getting Flash Cannon are very good buffs.
Dual Wingbeat evio Scyther…I'll miss it
We will miss you Blissey the tank, lol.
Scald was too OP for it own good. I'm glad they got rid it and only one Pokémon can use it.
Scald nerf is stupid idea because they shoul;d have made water types learn ice beam OR scald. That would balance stuff out.
Also make it 5PP
My fav buff is for my bro Tropius, Trailblazer is such a solid move for it.
Scald was my fav water sp atk 💔
Charizard loses Scorching Sands is painful, ground type sp atk which great weakness coverage against electric types since its part Flying.
Flareon loses Superpower, fighting phys atk, was great against its rock type weakness.
Luxray getting trailblaze, great against its ground type weakness.
Sylveon loses Mystical Fire, no steel type weakness coverage.
Rillaboom loses grassy glide, high horsepower and superpower….my fav Gen 8 starter, they stole their drum kit 💀
I don't understand why they don't answer to the power/speed creep that's been going on with each passing gen. This is why I stopped playing this game competitively. I will say them nerfing stall was a good change, but prolly one of the only good changes. Why nerf mons like charizard/krook then buff pokemon that don't need it like Arceus and Rayquaza? Also I wish they'd do more stat changes as buffs/nerfs