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Some people use airliners as business jets – with Donald Trump and his “Trump Force One” being a pretty famous example. But what does using an aircraft this way actually mean? And is it really a good idea?
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You missed the big customers for big business jets. Sports teams. For example US Football teams will have 737 configured with all first/business class seats to shuttle the teams around. Just about all professional and college teams use airplanes to shuttle around athletes. I think most universities charter airplanes or use fractional ownership.
3:44 rearward winglets, very strange.
For a long time I didn´t like the looks of the 757 very much just because of the lack of familiarity of the cockpit window layout that is so similar between the 707, 727, 737, 767 and even the 747 to some extent. The 757 cockpit area reminded me of the L-1101 or the Airbus 320 family but seemed quite Boeing-unlike. Only after learning that the 757 was designed on purpose to have a similar seating position to the 767 and after your bird of prey reference it´s starting to grow on me. Funny how we get acquainted to objects that are mostly designed with form following function.
Good choice of wording! I always thought the 757 had a predatory sort of look about it. Which is why I like it so much!
would prefer a honda 2600 jet.
If It can do Shannon-Bangor or Santa cruz das flores-Sint maarten then It should be good.
In terms of how sterling used their 757s then I heard they flew CPH-TAS-HKT in the 90s.
That doesnt come close to their trips to Sri Lanka In the sud aviation Caravelle
The acquisition cost of a 757 is far less than that of an A321. You could buy a lot of fuel with the millions you just saved.
Did trump also add the wing tips
It's smart when you're scamming your supporters to pay for the whole thing.
I wonder if those ACTs can be individually selected to maintain balance during long flights without having to constantly trim the plane?
Honestly, if you have the resources, do it up…believe me, if I had the resources, my “GA aircraft” would be a 747SP with another pilot and a flight engineer on permanent standby.
Tbh the 727 looked better 😅
When I get rich, I'm going to buy me an A380 and put a swimming pool in it! And a bowling alley. And a stable for my horse.
That actual aircraft in the thumbnail is parked at my home airport today. Yuck
Another excellent video. But a little disappointed there was no mention of Hugh Hefner's famous purpose built MD DC-9-32 aka the "Big Bunny" that debuted in 1969. It was way more outrageous that Elvis' used CV-880.
These maintenance schedules effected the US Air Force. When the Kc-135s were upgraded with the F117 engines. They flew so little that the engines started delamination and cauing compressor stalls because lf it.
Looks similar to buying an old bus instead of a new high-end Mercedes
Straight money
None of your business. First off, private airliners (aka the Boeing Business Jet “BBJ”) is nothing new, been around for decades. And if you can afford it, buy it. Period.
Trump bought Trump Force one as second-hand already converted as a private jet by Paul Alen, but he was bored with it after 15 years and decided to need something more interesting, faster so he bought MiG-29 two seates version and sold his old Boeing bus to Trump.
Ed Force One!!! Up the Irons!!
This is an interesting topic and I like the way you speak about it. However, the video feels very hollow, because you provide so few actual numbers.
How much heavier? How much more fuel? How much more wingspan? How much more expensive to park?
The bigger the jet the smaller the manhood for compensation.
you sure todays's sponsor wasn't the tangerine himself Petter? If you drank a shot each time you said his name in this video/showed a clip of him and his plane you'd be in the hospital with alcohol poisoning 🤣
Sounds like a horrible business decision motivated by emotion (vanity) to use an airliner rather than a purpose built vehicle.
I don’t have any respect for trump.
Another problem with converting an airliner in a business jet, as we had it on the previous « Air Force One » of France, when it was an A319CJ : the moisture (or to be exact, its absence) in the cabin. These planes were made to be used with 100+ passengers inside, all sweating as normal persons would. When you use them with something like 4 or 5x less passengers inside, especially on long haul flights like you can with ACTs, the air is getting a lot dryer than in a normal flight !
Dumb for obvious reasons. Same reason nobody drives around a 50 foot long car every day.
In the US folks buy used busses and convert them into campers. If Trump,or anyone else wants to buy a passenger airliner and convert it to a private jet,more power to them. Maybe Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos could buy a mothballed Concord and use it as a private jet. Spend your money however you choose.
Would have placed that picture if it had been Obama or Clinton? Probably not. Sad, sad, sad… The end for me watching your videos.
Trump is America's Hyacinth Bucket. Always pumping themselves up, to be something they are not.
Money doesn't talk ,it swears!
If you have enough $$ , I guess nothing can be dumb huh ? lol
There might be one or two people whose only jet is a big one, but lets be real. These owners own multiple aircraft. Efficiency? They're billionaires that can afford it.
They don't fly a maintenance crew around in a separate jet in case of emergency. When it needs service they just charter another one or use their smaller jet while their airplane goes into service. Service is hourly based and available virutally everywhere worlwide for an airbus or boeing.
The airplanes are engineered for the different cabin pressures in a pj, silly. They don't just crank up the system a notch. You seem to think it affects the airframe or something. What does an airliner flying hours have to do with a PJ's annual hours and cabin pressure or airframe life? I think you're making stuff up.
Great video. But can we tone down on those artificial flickers between cuts?
You weren't rude to Trump. Thank you for that.
When you have that much money, I think you buy and fly what you want to.
If I could afford it, I would.
Not so much as a word on the moral issues surrounding ownership and use of such aircraft. History will be the judge.
I’ve seen all your videos and, as an old cargo pilot, this is the best”deep dive” you’ve ever done! Brilliant video!
I was hoping you would know how much it cost to buy 🙁
TRUMP 2024
If I had the money to do it, I would definitely get a 757 as a business jet. Very roomy and comfortable. Also able to land in very small runways like MHTG (now closed to international flights), and also enough range to do transatlantic flights with a full load of fuel. So yeah all the conveniences, landing options and ranges to get almost everyone