Agincourt (ish) – Episode 9 – DIP v3 Brazilian Campaign



Screw 12 inch guns, this thing has been drinking the Vickers Kool-Aid. Fourteen 14 inch guns! Because more is more. Oh also we are at war with Italy again, and the United States as well so lots going on!

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38 thoughts on “Agincourt (ish) – Episode 9 – DIP v3 Brazilian Campaign”

  1. I think the Vickers deserves a 'stepsister ship'.
    A competing ship with the same hull, speed, towers – but 3×2 17" guns revisited. Essentialy roleplaying a competition wich one of these designs will go on to lead the fleet design

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  2. The only way I can see you puttng one more turren on the Vickers is with two Q turrets side by side… plus as a note, after seeing the 17in guns on it, the 14in guns look sooooo tiny. Still, 14 gunson target!

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  3. I can place more twin turrets (triple or quadruple turrets) than you can ever imagine. It works so well that I used one battleship against probably about like 5 battleships. It ate that battleship so hard the enemy was so afraid of that nasty battleship I made. It had 3 Quadruple turrets and two triple turrets with 15” guns problem is the gun recoil because of how many barrels it had. one time I was using it when the American battleships cooked out by the battleship. It was the best design I ever did.

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  4. I haven't seen you really scroll the map but has DiP fixed the "flat earth" problem where you cannot just keep scrolling around the planet?
    Just as a warning but the Vanilla game is badly broken, the AI Ottomans are attacking me and while it can take 6+ turns for a sea invasion their land army went from 0% to taking the territory on ONE turn. Something is seriously wrong

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  5. Between that very interesting experimental light cruiser and the absolute monstrosity that is the Vickers class, this campaign is really starting to bring out some of the most unhinged ship designs I've seen in one of your campaigns and I am 100% for it!

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  6. Interesting battlecruiser design. Although I'm not sure of the wisdom of all big guns and no secondaries, the Vickers class is a formidable design when facing enemy capital ships.

    Perhaps you can attach a pair of Aratus and three destroyers to escort her and compensate for her lack of secondary armament.

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  7. 22:24 Regarding the 17 inch guns, afraid the British have you beat when it comes to putting oversized guns on early 20th century warships! 

    HMS Furious, before being fully converted into a carrier, was initially designed to carry two 18 inch BL Mk 1 guns in two single-gun turrets in an A-Y configuration. She entered service in 1917 with only her aft turret, which was also removed four months later, to be replaced with a boring (and also quite terrible!) rear landing deck. 

    Her two guns eventually saw combat as shore bombardment guns mounted on two 6k ton Lord Clive-class monitors, which makes for a quite glorious gun-calibre-per-tonnage ratio!

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  8. Relatório: Design of the Vickers class of Cruzadore de Batalha. 20:00:

    Diretoria-Geral do Material da Marinha: Relatório da Direção: 23-Jan-1922

    Brief: The Vickers class will consist of one Cruzadore de Batalha designed to a target displacement of 40,000 tons and a top speed of 30 knots. There were many design proposals for a new Cruzadore de Batalha. A 16" armed ship with four or five twin turrets was considered for instance. In the end, a ship to form a division with the Louco was designed, with the same speed and basic main battery, just more of it.

    Propulsion: The class has three geared turbine engines provided steam by three induced draft boilers burning new fuel oil vented though one funnels generating 65,556 indicated horsepower turning three screws for the required top speed on a design displacement of 39,983 tons fully loaded with a balanced rudder turned by electro-hydraulic power for an operational range of 8,935 nautical miles. The class carries diesel auxiliary engines for emergency power.

    Armament: The class' main battery is seven twin turrets a two super firing pair forward and one on the quarter deck, a pair super firing on the main deck aft of the secondary tower, though the deck mounted turret can only fire broadside, and a turret between the main tower and secondary tower that fires only broadside bearing 14"/40 Mark 2 guns with 14" face, 4" top, 10.7" barbette Krupp improved cemented armor, turned by electro-hydraulic systems with enhanced reloading, using stabilized optic Coincidence range finders, and with greater protective systems against flash fires. The main magazine carries a balanced load of standard sized 50% Base Fuze HE and 50% Improved Capped Ballistic AP shells using Cordite Medium Burn as the propellant and Amotal as the bursting charge.

    Protection: Krupp Improved Cemented armor is clade with an advanced citadel scheme 12" on the main belt, 3" on the extended belt, 3" on the 1st inner belt, 1.5" on the 2nd inner belt, 3" on the main deck, 1.5" on the extended deck, 1.5" on the inner deck, 3" on the superstructure, and 14" on the conning tower. The Class has a double bottom hull, Bulkhead2separating improved compartmentation, counter-flooding systems, improved pumps and piping for flooding reduction, and double layer anti-torpedo bulges. A crew of 1457 officers and enlisted men will be provided standard quarters. The class carries advanced radio communication, systems.

    Construction: The class will consist of the Vickers. Build time will be 23 months with a commissioning time of 3 months. Cost per ship will be $490,227,300, and monthly maintenance in port of $22,550,460.

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  9. The Pacific Campaign

    The Hawaiian Islands Taken!

    Estadão, 8 May 1921

    The Fleet has taken the Hawaiian Islands including the critical Naval Base de Peal Harbor. The short campaign did little damage to the islands as the defenders were terribly under supplied.

    Tentative offers to discuss peace with Washington have been brushed off. The Fleet is now headed north.

    Winter Sucks

    Estadão, 18 December 1921

    The Fleet, sent to take southern Alaska and the Eastern Aleutians, had completed the job, with more losses from the weather than from the Americans. The ports of Dutch Harbor and Anchorage are in our hands.

    Peace with America!

    Estadão, 23 January 1922

    After twenty months we have finally brought Washington to the Peace Table. Their offer, $396 million for us to end the war. The negotiators for Brasila checked, noticed that American had snagged the Island of Greenland, figured they could easily be incorporated into the Estado de Faroe Islands, and insisted on that, along with just $283 million. Since Washington recognizes that Greenland was just an expense to them, and their navy, if they got around to building a new one, would never had the time to protect it, agreed.

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  10. Relatório: Design of the Gurupá class of Destruidores. 14:59:

    Diretoria-Geral do Material da Marinha: Relatório da Direção: 27-Mar-1921

    Brief: The Gurupá class will consist of five Destruidores designed to a target displacement of 1900 tons and a top speed of 34 knots. With increasing territories the need for station assigned Destruidores is increasing. These ships will help with those requirements.

    Propulsion: The class has three geared turbine engines provided steam by three induced draft boilers burning new fuel oil vented though one funnels generating 3,370 indicated horsepower turning two screws for the required top speed on a design displacement of 1,888 tons fully loaded with a unbalanced rudder turned by electro-hydraulic power for an operational range of 7,934 nautical miles.

    Armament: The class' main battery is four single turrets mounted in super pairs fore and aft bearing 5"/38 Mark 3 guns with 1.5" face and 0.5"top Krupp improved cemented armor, turned by electro-hydraulic systems with enhanced reloading, using stabilized optic Coincidence range finders, and with greater protective systems against flash fires. The main magazine carries an HE heavy standard load of standard sized 62.5% Base Fuze HE and 37.5% Improved Capped Ballistic AP shells using Cordite Medium Burn as the propellant and Amotal as the bursting charge. Two triple Mark 3 deck torpedo mounts launching a reduced load of 21" torpedoes with compressed air aided combustion rounds out the armament.

    Protection: Krupp Improved Cemented armor is clade 0.8" on the belt, 0.4" on the extended belt, 0.4" on the deck, 0.2" on the extended deck, 0.4" on the superstructure, and 1" on the conning tower. The Class has a double bottom hull, reinforced bulkheads separating Standard compartmentation, counter-flooding systems, improved pumps and piping for flooding reduction. A crew of 128 officers and enlisted men will be provided cramped quarters. The class carries advanced radio communication, and improved Hydrophone detection systems.

    Construction: The class will consist of the lead ship Gurupá, Pintus Grandus, Mariz e Barros, Samba, and Capoeira. Build time will be 7 months with a commissioning time of 1 month. Cost per ship will be $33,364,980, and monthly maintenance in port of $1,534,789.

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  11. The Central American Campaign

    War with Italy and American 09:06:

    Estadão, 8 May 1920

    The relentless hounding of the beleaguered government in Washington by Brasila has finally made them find some spine. Washington rejected the latest demands from Brasila and the Estado Novo do Brasil has formally declared war on the United States of America.

    The territorial interest of Brasila are obvious, Panama, Costa Rica, the Hawaiian and Galápagos Islands.

    However, because the idiots in Rome declared war on the Crusader State of Nederland, the Regno d'Italia is now at war with the Estado Novo do Brasil.

    Italy is probably cooped up in the Mediterranean, and not prepared to attempt another invasion of Belém and Estado Pará, through there is the Confienza class Incrociatore protetto Duca deglis Abruzzi stationed in the Mid Atlantic. The Encrouraçdos Rapido have been sent to both ends of the Panama Canal.

    Battle of São Luís

    Estadão, 18 July 1920

    With reports that the Confienza class Incrociatore protetto Duca deglis Abruzzi was haunting the waters off São Luís, Estado Maranhão, the Aratu class Cruzadors Caçador Vinganca from the Belém Naval Base de Pará, was sent out to find her.

    On a sweep heading north Vinganca spotted funnel smoke to the north-east. Vinganca soon sighted the relic of the 1904 war. The Italians, at least, didn’t turn and run, which would have been pointless anyway. When she came in range Vinganca turned west to open her twelve gun broadside. Duca deglis Abruzzi was soon flooding fore and aft, burning across the ship, and had 60 casualties reported. She popped a few 6.1” shells back at Vinganca, but misjudged the Brazilian’s speed.

    Duca deglis Abruzzi surrendered after losing 133 of her crew, 192 men being pulled off the wreck before she was scuttled. Vinganca took no losses.

    Costa Rica and Panama Fall

    Estadão, 12 October 1920

    The American occupied Central American provinces of Panama and Costa Rica have been liberated from the hated Yankee. The Fuzileiros Navais made quick work of the U.S. Marines, horribly deprived of supplies in these Yellow Fever infested jungles, the losses from sickness were higher than the losses from combat.

    Galápagos and Virgin Islands

    Estadão, 17 February 1921

    The ecological treasure that is Galápagos Islands have been retrieved from the depravation of American developers, trying to create another Island paradise for their rich and connected.

    The already despoiled Virgin Islands have already been taken, and will be put under new administration before being organized as a new Estado for the Estado Novo do Brasil.

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  12. The Great Winnowing 07:48:

    Austria Has Fallen into Chaos

    Estadão, 4 January 1920

    The Österreichisch Föderative Republik, which has constantly been at war since 1896, has collapsed from internal dissention and economic decline.

    After a territorial low from its war with Russia, Wien had recovered some ground by taking Balkan nations as new territory. However this did not turn their fortunes around.

    Turkey Has Expired

    Estadão, 8 January 1920

    Long regarded as the “Sick Man of Europe”, the Republic of Türkiye, established in 1901, while attempting to hold elections while under attack by Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, and especially the Crusader State of Nederland, simply came apart at the ethnic seams. They’re last real stronghold was Istanbul, which everybody had been calling Constantinople, including many of the residents.

    With both Austria and Turkey now ungoverned another mad scramble for Balkan and Asia Minor territory will likely ensue.

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  13. Relatório: Design of the Caboclo class of Cruzadors Caçador. 02:12:

    Diretoria-Geral do Material da Marinha: Relatório da Direção: 10-Dec-1919

    Brief: The Caboclo class will consist of two Cruzadors Caçador designed to a target displacement of 10,000 tons and a top speed of 36 knots. This class is meant to be an anti-destroyer ship, be tough enough to handle what they dish out and crush them when they are encountered.

    Propulsion: The class has three geared turbine engines provided steam by three induced draft boilers burning new fuel oil vented though one funnels generating 42,060 indicated horsepower turning three screws for the required top speed on a design displacement of 9,837 tons fully loaded with a balanced rudder turned by electro-hydraulic power for an operational range of 12,917 nautical miles. The class carries diesel auxiliary engines for emergency power.

    Armament: The class' main battery is four twin turrets mounted in super firing pairs fore and aft bearing 6"/45 Mark 3 guns with 6" face, 3" top, 3" barbette Krupp improved cemented armor, turned by electro-hydraulic systems with enhanced reloading, using advanced Coincidence range finders, and with greater protective systems against flash fires. The main magazine carries a balanced load of standard sized 50% Base Fuze HE and 50% Improved Capped Ballistic AP shells using Cordite Medium Burn as the propellant and Amotal as the bursting charge. The secondary battery is five twin mounts set three in the secondary tower one center line and one per side and two next the the main tower one per side bearing 3"/42 Mark 3 guns with 3" face and , 1.5" top Krupp improved cemented armor. The secondary magazine carries a HE heavy standard load of standard sized 62.5% Base Fuze HE and 37.5% Improved Capped Ballistic AP shells. Two triple Mark 3 deck torpedo mounts launching a standard load of 23" torpedoes with compressed air aided combustion rounds out the armament.

    Protection: Krupp Improved Cemented armor is clade with an advanced citadel scheme 5" on the main belt, 3" on the extended belt, 2.5" on the 1st inner belt, 2" on the 2nd inner belt, 3" on the main deck, 1.5" on the extended deck, 1.8" on the inner deck, 3" on the superstructure, and 6" on the conning tower. The Class has a double bottom hull, reinforced bulkheads separating extensive compartmentation, counter-flooding systems, improved pumps and piping for flooding reduction. A crew of 574 officers and enlisted men will be provided standard quarters. The class carries advanced radio communication and improved Hydrophone detection systems.

    Construction: The class will consist of the lead ship Caboclo and Necrotree. Build time will be 13 months with a commissioning time of 2 months. Cost per ship will be $198,477,400, and monthly maintenance in port of $9,129,962.

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