Let’s talk through a fairly common competitive damage combo – aggressors plus an apothecary biologis with bolter discipline!
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0:00 Intro
1:43 Aggressors
3:08 Apothecary Biologis
3:46 Support + Strats
6:19 Damage Output – Ranged
9:23 Melee Damage
10:20 Support and Delivery
14:20 Outro
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I know this is strong but its fair and balanced, this should NOT get a nerf.
i guess i'm buying the BA combat patrol then 🙂
how does it do against lychguard blocks
Polska Gurom!
Ok, isnt sternguard + lieutenant better. I ran the numbers and with devastating wounds sternguard with lieutenant on bolter discipline is crazy.
I've been running this since the start of 10th with my Imperial Fists and it has worked well.
I've been running this combo since 10th Started. It's been a menace in the local meta, with really only pre-nerf GSC being able to fight against it effectively.
Ive been playing this combo since the leviathan box came out and its amazing it also work quite good on eradicator
Wow… I guess i was ahead of the curve on this one. I have two squads of Aggressors + Biologis.
I mean… I did cillect a gravis army. Getting all the proper shoulder pads was expensive.
Ingenious and innovative. At least it was about a month ago when Poland won World championship using this combo 😉
Tbh I’d say the apothecary biologis fits better with eradicators. The damage output is huge and nothing is wasted as reroll wounds is still there.
isint bolter discipline better used on a liutenant supporting 5-9 hellblasters in a drop pod??
I like adding Calgar for the advance/ fallback shoot and charge.
I've been running this since my first match of 10th, and it's pretty damn good
I pretty much do this same thing but with a brick of deathwing command squad terminators with a strikemaster and sometimes a termi captain. At normal range the stormbolters get 22 shots with lethals and exploding 6's but at 12" it becomes 44 shots of just storm bolters with lethal plus the missile launchers, and if in devastator doctrine 5+6 explodes with lethal and they can follow up with a charge that they can re-roll thanks to the captain. Heavy investment in terms of points and was looking at this videos combo as well since the investment is much lower with higher toughness units similar firepower and built in twin-linked with strong melee potential.
guess which combo will get nerfed after desolators and oath of the moment 😅🙄
This unit can kill a knight, I used mine to take out a Caladius Tank , thats a T10 14W tank with 5 + invun. my opponent wished he paid for the Owerwatch. I play Blood angels so making them appear were i need them the most is great fun! Its good to have a unit that can deal with something scarry. it will help my winrate.
Been running the combo for some time. It’s definitely nice.
This was the first thing I did with the Index.
I use a similar combo in my list, but a primaris apothecary with bolter discipline tacked onto a 10 man squad of hellblasters since they're stronger than any bolter. Overcharge every turn, if hazardous takes any out I get a model back at the start of every turn, and the sustained hits makes it more than worth it.
This is how I've been running my terminators. 10 man squad with 2 cyclone missile launchers. Plus a Deathwing Strikemaster with Bolter Discipline.
Enjoy playing this now before GW nerfs it lmao.
Intresting to compare this combo output with 10 Sternguard + lieutenant.
A Gravis Captain literally charged and 1-shot my Norn Emissary today. So yeah…
I've been doing this in the Heavy Intercessor squad, with a Captain in Gravis… Sigh.
Biologis + a brick of any decent AP seems great in general
I’ve been running my biologus with bolster discipline and heavy intersessors with one heavy bolter. This has been a solid combo as well I’m my experience as it makes the heavy bolt rifles chew through all chaff and allows them more threat potential in melee if charged while holding a point
Am I the only one that thinks this is wildly idiotic and hilariously anti-fluff?
Bolters killing a Land Raider because of a Biology professor? Fuckin lol 40k is stupid now
Best option to field them is probably deep strike with Uriel IMO. It does the job cheap. On foot doesnt work, tried that.. they just die before they get in range even with Calgar. Land Raider works, but I would prefer to use Bladeguard veterans with that.
Primaris Aggressors are bar-none my favorite unit in Warhammer. They were the first box I ever bought, just because I liked the way they looked. I just adore how brutal and tanky and imposing they are the and gravis armor is my favorite armor style.
I’m still slowly assembling my army but I am so, so happy to hear they play well and hit every bit as hard as I’d hoped they would.
flamer aggressors in a land raider redeemer.
salamanders lets goooo!
I'm about to add an Apothecary biologis and an indomitor kill team to my comp deathwatch
I'm not sure this strategy works. Whenever I tell my opponent that the Biologis is leading my flamestorm Aggressors, they just laugh. I'm not quite sure why. Am I doing it wrong?
You know what this is good against? The Avatar of Khaine – ask me how I found that one out
For some reason i am getting completely other numbers on T5/SV2+/4+Invul
– Auto Bolt Storm: 6 damage
– Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: 9 damage vs 5 Terminators
– Power Fist: 8 damage
With all buffs and Oath, so total 14-17 wounds, that's like 4-5 terminators after shooting and charging.
On other hand we have Chaplain on Bike + 6xBike Squad (2x Plasma Gun)
Sustain 1, Devastating, +1 Wound Roll in Melee
That will be 13-15 damage on 5 Terminators, easier to deliver that damage in my opinion due to high mobility and Devastator Doctrine. 265 points vs 280 points. Less points, more movement (12"/18").
Also we have Chaplain on Bike + Outriders
Sustain 1, Devastating, +1 Wound Roll in Melee
That will be 16 damage on 5 Terminators, for 315 points, just because of Bike Squad gone or will be gone soon. Is it worth 35 points more for 12"/16" move/advance ? I would say yes.
I've been using a similar combo with my Dark Angels. A full 10-man Deathwing Command Squad with 2 Assault Cannons led by a Deathwing Strikemaster with Bolter Discipline. Crit Fishing with Oath of Moment can lead to absolute bonkers levels of damage with this combo.
I prefer use bolter discipline with a primaris lieutenient when leader a 10 plasma marines, 20 hits, i gain sustained and letal, a total devastation attack againts any enemy
Time to build that Biologis then!
Haven't seen this b4 I started using it around 2 months ago but mine isn't to impressive as I run space wolves champions of russ so no bolter disciple and I run the storm speeder that adds ap so the shoots are still ap2 just no exoding 6s at range
But they delete in melee lethal and sustained hits in melee generally ap 3 +1 to wound and twin linked
Yes yes
Say it to 10 Lich guards with full buf.
You really need to do these vids as a podcast as well!
I've been tempted to pair the biologist with eradicators. I play my m8 and he has necron and guard so I need high strength attacks to kill his chunky units
Libby dread goes 'YEEEEET!'
10x Hellblasters with an Apothecary + Bolter Displine is an absolutely devastating combo
How are the Aggressors getting more than 18 shots in per turn?
This kind of combo can also work with a deathwing strikemaster and deathwing command squad. In fact DA have the only access to a terminator lieutenant variant. So about 36-40 storm bolter shots with sustaind and lethals on 5s, with an apothecary in the squad to rez a dude a turn and fairly competent power fist profile with terminator saves and invulns. With a captain in terminator armor in addition theu get free strat as well has reroll charges. It is more pts though but its a massive block thats almost immovable. Plus the banner in the command squad makes them oc 2 and the champion gives them +1 to charge as well as 1 cp heroi intervention.
Am i missing something but how do you put bolter discipline in desolation? I cant see anybody able to join them?