A look at Ned Stark’s youth. We’ll cover his friendship with Robert, his mentorship with Jon Arryn, his siblings Brandon, Lyanna, and Benjen, and his parents Rickard and Lyarra.
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I love rereading GoT. There's so many things you catch on those rereads. My favorite book of the series.
Great stuff thanks again
Amazing episode as always! Sad to have just missed the live, but here for the replay crew 😊
All the talk of the necessity of the southern alliances for the north really had me in the 'what ifs' of it all and wondering, if things had turned out differently, do you think Robb would also have been married to a southern noble lady? Or was it time to consolidate into the northern bannermen houses again? Perhaps Meera? Possibly Alys Karstark or Wylla Manderly? Or would he have considered those alliance strong enough without a marriage bond and gone for a daughter of the Vale with Myranda Royce perhaps?
Princess Margaret and queen Elizabeth were the same way
It bothers me that Riccard sent his son and heir to be fostered by the Rhyswells (I think that's right)… Why the heck did he do that? Usually, the Lord wants their heir by their side… cup bearer, then squire or whatever… learning at the feet of the Lord in preparation for that eventuality. Riccard sends his oldest AND his second oldest away to be fostered. So… was Riccard injured or something? Did he take a debilitating injury in Rob's Rebellion? or GreyJoy's Rebellion? or before that in the war of the nine pennies? I don't get it. Did he not like to spend time with his boys? Was he trying to ensure their survival during a harsh winter or something? It makes no sense… and it opened the door, at least in Ned's case, to encroachment on the northern traditions of the southron ways – which, really, are not all that consistent with the northern traditions. The Starks should have been focusing on populating the Gift… or lands close to it. Carving up more lands, holdfasts, etc. in order to keep that area closer to the wall more fully populated as a buffer zone for the threat from the north – but it seems they remember very little about it or eschew even the validity of that threat. Yeah… it was unusual for Bran to want to be a Knight… you should have gone much more into what WAS usual for the children of the north.
So… if there was no Sept before Ned built one for Cat, there was probably no Septa or Septon either instructing the children. Did the Maester have all that responsibility? Wouldn't he have needed a bit of help with all the children there needing some instruction? or did others take part… like Old Nan and her like.
So… after Brandon rode to Kings Landing in order to call out Rhaegar for the abduction of Lyanna, he was imprisoned and THEN King Aerys called for Riccard and the fathers/guardians of all of Brandon's companions… so what exactly happened? Riccard must have been a BAMF as he insisted on trial by combat knowing he would have to face and defeat one of the Kings Guard, which included Barriston the Bold, Sir Whent, Sir Martell, and even the Sword of the Morning Arthur Dayne… How the hell did Aerys get away with choosing "fire" as his champion rather than one of the Kings Guard? I mean… this was MAJOR… wasn't it? What sort of success had Lord Riccard had in man to man combat? Somebody PLEASE tell George we need more info… Write the Book, George…. Write the Books… write all them books!!!
Thoughts on Rickard not having Southron ambitions but magic ones with Catelyn specifically chosen because probable Blackwood, Lothston, and Strong blood could revitalize Stark warging powers?
I NEED Sean’s shirt omfg
Ok, so responding to @ around the 50:00ish mark, the protectiveness of Brandon. The north demonstrates clannish behavior. A bit more primitive in nature than "high society" but the north is much more removed from the south with their "dainty society and social norms" the north is more "manly" in nature. More stoic, more gruff, more reserved, "bearded" manly men, No need for knight hood. Just be a man, do what needs doing and shut up about it. I can fight with my brother all I want, but if a kid from 2 blocks over messes with my brother he can F.A.a.F.O.. I beat that azz. Cut to a short time later, a kid from the next town over messes with that same kid from a couple blocks over, I am gonna have his back because he is from my hood (true story) See the pattern? The north still has the mountain clans, the Skagosi which I think are portrayed as even more wild and primitive than the mountain clans. My Irish clannish upbringing in the poorer side of a pretty affluent town (the town oddly enough had very real but unwritten separation between the overwhelmingly more wealthy"south side" and the pretty much accepted across the board "poorer north side") my accumulated life experience has always had me relate with the northerners. Ok, I meandered a little bit there, but said pretty much what I intended to in the way I wanted to.
Ned at not have been in the north during some formative years but he still had ravens. I wonder how often Ned wrote home and was able to keep in contact with his father in that way
Pycelle was most likely at Sumeerhall. He remebers serving five Kings and Aegon V. is one of them. This grandmaesters where usually old, when they were sent to Kings Landing and Aegon V. actually requested a younger one. Do you even mind telling lies about imaginary characters anymore?