In Episode 1382, Sean Woodley is joined by Vivek Jacob (Raptors.com) to begin picking apart the wreckage of the 2022-23 Toronto Raptors. Today, they dig into how much of a failure this Raptors team was compared to the lofty pre-season expectations placed upon the squad. What were the biggest individual disapppointments? And is there any chance they can be rectified going into next season? Next, Sean and Vivek reflect back upon what they were most wrong about at the beginning of the year. Vivek was bullish on the Raptors’ addressing their three-point shooting issues via internal growth, while Sean was completely fooled by the Raptors’ fast-paced start to the season. Lastly, they discuss what they learned the most about the Raptors and team building over the course of this year, with two big takeaways coming to mind: the Raptors ain’t special, and winning isn’t a given even with all the success the franchise has had; and the need for more depth to navigate the rigours of 82 games is painfully apparent after what we just witnessed.
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I would not want Mobley. Did you see him in gm 1 vs Knicks? He is overhyped. I'll take Scottie any day. Scottie will bounced back stronger next season. Just watch!
get some tough minded player. He don't have any GRIT on this team – no one taking charge, no one diving for lose balls, no one
getting the 50-50 ball. Masai likes soft as Charmin tissue players – i'm still haunted by Marcus Smart throwing PAscal to the
floor like a ragged-doll in the bubble
One major factor is Fred taking 20+ shots per game with a 39% fg%. Going to the rim with 4 defenders in front of him. Putting his younger teammates under the bus constantly.
I think many fans and media members over value our talent. Just because we won a chip 4 years ago building one way, doesn't mean we win with same approach this time. The talent on this team overall just isn't good enough. OG couldn't score much in a critical season deciding game. The entire team defense was horrible and that starts at the point of attack where Fred was getting scorched by Lavine. We need an actual starting pg, movement shooters and just general bench depth and it has to happen through trades and more draft picking of better talent.
every-dayer again
Fred needs to go. I can't watch another season of this offense. this team is done
Fred being a leader, primary ball handler, and looking for a contract extension, not a good trio.
I was wrong about Scottie B having a "monster" season. He was soft as tissue, no not tissue, buttah.
Bro had this Wince Harder look all the time, even when he was healthy.
If Fred is still playing for the Raptors, i'll just stop watching period. I can't stomach another year of him.
Our 2 best players are FVV and Siakam. That’s where the season went wrong.
Fred derailed the season when he went on his media run. Nick nurse not holding Fred accountable cemented what was to come
While I understand that a theme of the season was not having enough talent on the bench, I was kind of disappointed that Nurse didn't use consistent rotations over the course of the season. The desire to win each single game makes the team a great watch over the course of a long season… when they are good. Not letting the bench players get real minutes not only puts additional strain on the starters but does not let them have full-speed reference points to grow and develop. I wish Nurse would let more players play through their struggles even if it means losing some winnable games early in the season because it would hopefully build sustainable winning over the course of the season. The past few years seem to indicate that Nurse is more of a 16 game coach when he needs to be more of an 82 game coach with this roster.
Fred likely won’t be moved this offseason but hopefully at some point we can part ways with him
"Blessed are those who can give without remembering and take without forgetting." –
Masai has been looking bad for the past 3 years🤦🏾♂️😡
I feel like we have half decent bench depth i know this is a hot take😂 i feel like the problem is our back up pg koloko gives us that defence precious and boucher are streaky but we got them both we have gtj coming off the bench now and we have joe and will to put at the three for catch and shoot you just dont see it because we need a back up pg to facilitate to all these guys and make a few shots of his own
Seriously will stop watching the raptors of fred is back and rhis selfish bs ball continues
I think the Raps core is more than likely to run it back this season. But Raps need to focus on rebalancing the roster. We had the 6’9 experiment, awesome. But it doesn’t work. Not all these 6’9 guys can do the same thing. We only started winning once we started playing a more traditional basketball with more defined roles for the players. Switchability can be a tool to win, but not the primary focus. Here’s hoping our 13th pick this year can work to help our bench’s depth. A lot of those guys in that range look like they can help us.
I like how you guys completely gloss over the real reason why this season was a failure which of course is Nick Nurse. His schemes were so easy to plan for and he absolutely had no adjustments. His refusal to trust his bench is just as bad. How can you guys say the bench was terrible when nn refuses to give them consistent mins. There is an apparent disconnect between him and the players and thats prolly why Masai should let him walk. NN was just absolute garbage this year and it cost the Raps dearly.
Fred is selfish and not a leader. Get him out.
Oh ya, Nurse fired for letting Fred fuck around.
There season ended just as itt should have at the file line. There inability to make file shots when it counted was a problem all season. It finally caught up with them. I thought they had a good run, they were in the top twenty teams in the NBA. I don't know how you fiix file shooting when it affects the hold team..
I just think Masia Should have tanked instead trading for Poetle trade deadline. This team as right now is definition of treadmill team .. and making play in was just not something they needed. One more year of picking too 5 .. especially if they lucked out with top 2 .. with Wemby or Henderson would have changed the fortunes of Raptors for next decade .