85″ Sony Bravia 9 vs 83″ LG G4 and 77” A95L 77” S95D Best Out of the Box TV Shootout 👍Buy these TVs from our host Value Electronics https://bit.ly/3VhFKNR (tell them Fomo sent you)👍Shootout coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDyseJlYCGY , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEah3nmIFfw
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People are acting as if the sony completely blew away the competition. You really think that extra cost for sony makes up for the small "lead" it has?
You da man Classy. Great session FOMO.
They're all great at the end of the day, just comes down to the best for the size and room environment you want. For us It's about moving on to sizes over 77inch, so we'll be going for a deal on G4 83inch for second bedroom converted into movie/gaming room for this coming Black Friday or Best Buy open box certified special.
I get the feeling that if the G4 won, there would be a lot less explaining of why the A95L won. I feel like because of the “upset”, there is no support for the actual winner.
Nearly 3 hours of damage control and spin because the G4 lost.
I'm an 85x90l Sony owner and I'd still have to go with the bigger 83" g4 than the 77" a95l if I were upgrading today. 🤷
That's crazy Sony is using a 3rd gen panel inside A95L to win the shootout but there's no guarantee a consumer will get that level of performance until 2nd gen is sold through. Samsung is the only way to make sure you get the best panel. But Sony is allowed to claim this win and still have it be a lottery for the customer.
I love how Best buy always marketed themselves as price matching or lower prices but I've never seen this honored not once!! If you show them a better deal somewhere else they don't price match or give you a better price am I right? Total bs advertising. Gotta love corporate greed bs.
I don't know how Classy can sit there and be satisfied with these results after saying quote "This is one of the reasons for me the A95L has dropped down to like 4th or 5th place. I would take a G4 or an S95D, probably even the S90D over the A95L. For me the A95 keeps dropping down as new TVs come out that don't have the issues that the A95L has." He said this in his video called "LG G4 vs Samsung S95D vs Sony A95L Livestream Comparison" at the 1:56:00 mark.
Good stuff guys! You both did a good job covering the event you guys did all you could with what was allowed, nice interview with Classy as well good to see him on camera again.
Shoutout to Robert Zohn😊❤❤😊
I appologize for going off topic, but during this livestream, you guys might have brought up an issue I've been struggling with for years. You guys mentioned that when these new TVs have not been calibrated, hockey looks pink. Are you referring to the white icey surfaces the players use? If not, never mind. If so, is this in Filmmaker, Custom, and Professional picture modes? I have been experiencing this issue on a 2015/2016 HP OMEN laptop's 17.3" 4K LCD IPS display, a 2019 model HP ENVY 17.3" 4K LCD IPS display, a 2018 model HP SPECTRE x360 with a 2019 15.6" AMOLED 4K display, and my Sony 85-inch X90CL. I don't watch hockey or any sports. However, everything that is supposed to appear as pure white such as mid-day sun, winter snow, Windows apps and dialog boxes, etc. has more red in it than when viewing on CRTs, plasmas, and CCFL-backlit and the first LED-backlit LCDs. Yet the rest of the colors on the newer devices are fantastic. Is this appearance of white a new industry standard? Does it have anything to do with blue light reduction for eye protection? I'm fine with eye protection when working with text. However, for videos and photos, I prefer accuracy. I think manufacturers should give us a choice to switch blue light reduction on for eye care and off for color accuracy instead of forcing us to own a device which can only prioritize either eye care or color accuracy. Every time I used to try working with the white balance controls on my newer devices to get them to match one of my older devices I use for reference white, after I turned the red down, I'd wind up struggling with the green and blue adjustments, and I'd get to the point I felt like I was never going to get anywhere. So I wound up going back to the default settings, adapting to it, and ignoring the issue for years. During the online research part of my home theater and tech journey, I discovered there are people out there with proper tools who have resolved this. Yet I can't afford Calman, colorimeters, professional calibration onsite services, etc.. If anyone has a 2023 or 2024 model Sony TV and/or a 2015/2016 or newer model laptop with a 4K display running Windows and has fixed this with white balance adjustments, please share your settings.
Very predictable
Robert Zohn, Panasonic OLED? I am interested.
1:49:00 Brian's point that calibration tends to hurt Mini-LEDs or hide their strengths is probably one of the truest statements to come out of this shoot out. If you put a Mini-LED in a calibrated mode and another in Standard with warm color temp, the difference will be as pronounced as the G1 and the G1000 which LG will release in 2074. I did that the other day and calibrated mode turned Curb Your Enthusiasm into a drama 🙂
And since this is the Olympics, how about a round of applause for the judges for spending 6 hours watching content in calibrated mode.
Does anyone understand the amount of training a person has to undergo to watch a single episode of anything in calibrated mode? They make it seem easy but it takes years of training to build the endurance to watch a full episode in a calibrated mode.
Sony buys lotalties. End of story
Is it true that the Tandem OLED in the iPads is made by Samsung?
I still can't get my head around the fact that it's cheaper to have 2 OLED (dual-cell OLED) panels instead of a dual-cell LED (a monochrome LED panel) along with a color LED panel and no dimming zones. Don't 1,000-5,000 dimming zones cost money in materials, electronics, weight, shipping, etc? Slapping another light layer in there sounds like the easiest thing in the world rather than doing so much work to control light… Maybe I don't understand the complexities…
Great coverage guys!! Interesting people, industry representatives, controversy, unexpected results..what more can you ask for really? Turned into a slight marathon for you, so thanks for keeping it fun.
I thought the A95L could not compete as it's a 2023 model? Can the A95L compete next year as well? How long can a TV compete for?
Classy makes some excellent observations. Just one correction, though. AFAIK, not only does the Sony BVM not play Dolby Vision, it also doesn’t do HDR10. It plays back PQ10, which is HDR10 stripped of any MaxCLL and MaxFALL metadata.
Congrats Brian and FOMO on a great couple days. Not been able to show the shootout kind of sucked but listening to the calibrators and Judges was a real treat. I agree with FOMO’s prediction, the Bravia 10 will be a Sony QD-OLED, hopefully with a new SoC, better gaming connectivity/flexibility, and less bugs than the A95L—Spring/Summer 2025🤞