2025 US & UK Carrier Groups vs 2025 Chinese & Russian Carrier Groups (Naval Battle 87) | DCS



We simulate a naval battle with US and UK carrier strike groups versus China and Russia. Aircraft involded are F-35 Lightning C and B variants, Mig-29KR and J-15B. Major missiles involved are YJ-21 Hypersonic, YJ-18 and P-800 Oniks Supersonic, Naval Strike Missile and LRASM stealth anti-ship missiles.

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45 thoughts on “2025 US & UK Carrier Groups vs 2025 Chinese & Russian Carrier Groups (Naval Battle 87) | DCS”

  1. I would love to see a sim run with Cargos deploying the US Rapid Dragons in a wargame simulation. As some sort of preemptive/nuclear retaliation conventional assault on either China or Russia.

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  2. A good point about different outcomes. I believe theoretical military wargames would be repeated many times with same snd different rules of engagement to cover for luck different behavior, better or worse than expected weapon performance etc. In the end you would get an statistical value for your winchance

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  3. I see a MAJOR issue with the score board – if a ship sinks ALL the aircraft on board, all the missiles on board should be counted as lost too. Since they are "destroyed" when the ship sinks.

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  4. Cap, Just a suggestion for you.
    1. You and matrix on a separate chat channel, so you can communicate, but at the same time not give away postions of missles or anti ship that are incoming to make surprise attack and or stealth more effectively.
    2. Regulate the amount of human spawns after carrier is out of aircraft, or swap nations til that next carrier group is out of aircraft and end player and they join you in spectator chat.
    3. More carrier command videos!! Love watching you all playing that game.

    I love your videos! I have been following on twitch and YT. I am slowly making over to rumble, but don't total like it, reason as you would say. Love the BMW videos cant wait for more! Much Love to you and all of GR

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  5. Sock's flying today really makes me wonder what the next evolution on fleet defense looks like.
    It makes me really wonder about forward deployed fighters that carry anti-missile missiles.

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  6. I don't know much about DCS… is it possible for some players to server as commanders of the AI, issuing orders to prevent them from doing stupid things like dogfighting with F 35s?

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  7. Bit irritated the UK Carrier strike Group is deliberately weakened which proves how unrealistic these games are. No Sea Sceptre. Nearly all Type 45s will have by 2025 48 Astor 30s, 24 Sea Sceptres a total of 72 missiles not including NSMs. No Sea Spear anti ship/land attack swarm that are being integrated into the F35bs. The U.K. Strike Group is far superior to the Russian yet the clown narrating this claims the British fleet is the weakest link. Russia’sAircraft Carrier is a joke and so is their Navy. Ukraine a country with no navy has pretty much mauled the Baltic fleet into submission. Total bollocks scenario which is a bit of fun I suppose not to be taken seriously.

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  8. only thing I would have changed was the air to air for chinese b/c in 2025 they will surely have the j31/35 for air to air and if the US gets the aim -260 shouldnt the chinese get pl-xx?

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  9. Why are all your naval battles, with ship numbers that are pure fantasy? The Russians a few years down the road might have Gorshkov’s but not six. The UK might have 3 Dragons and two new frigates and even a Type 23 “, Or even some German or Dutch ships travelling with with it, but all Dragons? If you don”’t have the ships in game, I get it, but drawing definite conclusions to its result is a bit murky. Your US group is fine, and this naval battle is an amazing party for me, but I hard to find it as accurate analysis.

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  10. I would like to see if there was a way to program two things, some percent of anti-ship planes out between AA ones. I would be curious if the Chinese AI could be programmed to launch their different missiles for coordinated strike time. So the slower missiles fired first and the faster ones later so they arrive at the same time.

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  11. Loss of life/casualty differences:

    The 003 doesn't have a crew complement listed, but based on the smaller Type 002 and similar sized Kitty Hawk carrier, it would have a crew complement of ~4000.

    The 055 has a complement of "300+", so let's say 350*2=700.

    The 052D has a complement of ~280, so 280*2 is 560.

    J-15B (1 or 2 seater,) let's say that it is split 1:1, so ~46

    KJ-600 is the Chinese CATOBAR E-2D equivalent, crew complement of 5-6, so ~16

    MiG-29K is single seater, so 27.

    Total REDFOR casualties: ~5,350

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    F-35 (all variants, single seater): 27 (probably less if the British pilots didn't go all dumb.

    F/A-18F (two seater): 16

    Total Blufor casualties: 43

    All in all, REDFOR had ~124x more casualties than BLUFOR.

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  12. LOL at Damp Sock…. Cap saying he can be really brilliant or really stupid. First missile misses but Sock fired another…. We hear nothing from Sock the rest of the video… LOL

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  13. G’day guys! Just for future consideration. The AIM-9x-3 is currently employed on F-35’s.
    It is essentially the internals of AIM-9x-2 with LO coating. There is no way of knowing how much it increases F-35 RCS but I’m assuming it wouldn’t be by much. ALSO the wingtip pylons and launchers are also LO coated fyi

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