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According to our data, the Ukrainian side has already started implementing the planned plan. In particular, the Eastern Mining and Processing Plant in the city of Yellow Waters and the Institute of Nuclear Research in Kiev have been tasked with making such a bomb. We do not rule out assistance in solving this problem from some Western countries, which, according to incoming information, are negotiating with Ukraine on the supply of components for a "dirty bomb".
According to information available to Russia, the Kiev regime plans to carry out the detonation of such a munition by disguising it as an abnormal operation of a low-power Russian nuclear munition, in which highly enriched uranium is used as a charge. Maria Zakharova Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation
Very good insights and a plausible theory. I would only disagree on the final conclusion. I don't think this leads to nuclear war. Yes the western political class are psychopaths, however they are also bullies/cowards. They won't ever put themselves at personal risk. I would bet they back down before a nuclear exchange. However, as Gonzalo correctly points out, all bets are off.
Last from the destruction of the Antonov 226.. It was bombed in the early beginning of the military operation in Ukraine because Russian intelligence found information that the 226 was made ready to drop a dirty bomb and blame Russia.
According to a Jesuit whistleblower its planned that the total West (US, EU and UK) will lose to the Russians in a huge way meaning over half their population gone, economy decimated, money worthless while Russia and Brics create a new monetary system called Central Bank Digital Currency with value deriving from a basket of currencies backed by real assets gold, commodities, oil, gas, etc. Sure looks like everything the West is doing is nothing but hurting itself on purpose,its because its planned that they lose big time. New system is also controlled by the cabal and its not gonna be good. 😂
The thing is that its the usual plan from the usual suspects. The Russians wouldve seen this coming. History has shown that the Russians are playing chess while the western militaries can barely handle a basic checkers game. The odds that this very obvious plan will actually succeed seems very low.
Our only hope is that now that we know about it ,they will not go through with it .They have lost this battle .It is left to be known if they choose the samson option ,which will ultimately mean the total destruction of mankind or finally decide to choose the peace option instead.
Both russians and ukrainians will be affected by a dirty bomb and usa will gain control of boh russia and ukraine Kill 2 birds with one stone as the saying goes
The people in power in the Biden Administration need to be in federal prison and not holding any power. A lot of American youth will unfortunately die for a cause that does not concern us. A lesson we fail to learn. Russia will kick ass if what you describe happens. The 101st Airborne Division will be used as sacrificial lambs by Biden and company as the excuse to get in a war. Insanity and evil prevails in Washington.
I fear too that our government might be considering support of such a plan only to blame Russia for it and cause Russia to unleash hell on Ukraine. It’ll allow western corp media to propel further anti Russia hysteria. Just like Syria’s “chemical” attack or Iraq’s “weapons of mass destruction” were enough of the reasons to justify US/UK invasions into those countries. These western governments are NOT looking to save Ukraine. They are looking to bring Russia down at the expense of Ukraine potentially getting annihilated. That’s pretty EVIL. As an American citizen I oppose US manipulative foreign policies regarding this conflict.
If the US sends the 101st Airborne to Odessa, and a US fleet enters the Black Sea, why would the Russians only destroy the 101st, and not the fleet? In for a penny, in for a pound.
The West has greatly overestimated their ability to get most of the world would get behind them, they greatly underestimated the ability of Russians to get most of the world behind them by doing everything by the book. The Americans military can’t get young men and women to join the military, Western Europeans won’t fight either. This is the end of the Western elites empire, thankfully. Nows the time for Eurasia to get off the sidelines.
Gonzalo, while a big fan of yours since your involuntary stay with Ukrainian security, I must point out your consistent blindspot regarding the very real, albeit covert, ongoing civil war between the globalist deep state neocon, dem and Rino traitors and those patriotic forces fighting in defense and support of the U.S. Constitution and to preserve our Constitutional Republic.
In addition to your blindspot over the current U.S. civil war, you are also remiss in not recognizing that those same patriotic U.S. forces are working together with the anti-globalist factions and leaderships of a good number of other freedom loving nations of the World.
All I suggest us that you widen your aperture in order to appreciate (and follow) the larger, more complex and detailed big picture of this most awe inspiring and monumental timeline unfolding on our Planet.
It's not suprising the US Gov would use the death of 101st airborne troops as an excuse to justify war. No different than using civilian deaths on 9/11 for the Afghan invasion.
Make's perfect sense. Seeing the US, British and Ukrainian involvement in this war reminds me of the 3 stooges bungling about (dangerously in this case) with their ladder.
Gonzalo here are a few nuances for you to consider. First of all the cat is already out of the bag. The whole world already knows about this dirty bomb plan. There will be no way to blame the Russians for it. They will try of course but to no avail.
Zelinsky and his cronies? They will be found and rounded up wherever they are hiding, and Russian intelligence services will take care of them.
In WW1 there was a phase were both parties used chemical warfare agents, this quickly stopped because of one unpredictable factor. The wind being the great equalizer spreading the agents to friend and foe. It was quickly stopped. The radioactive dust will spread to Odessa making that city and its surroundings unlivable. It would make that city not worth fighting for.
American involvement? The US has already a rather low standing in the world as it is right now. Being involved in such a monstrosity would turn it into a pariah nation. Beyond the pale.
What about the US generals, would they be ordering their best troops to fight in an irradiated area? Knowing those men would come home dead or with radiation sickness?
Excellent analysis. What you suggest seems correct to me in broad outline: US (neocons basically) seek to escalate thru false flag. As to your suggested detail re Nikolaev I'm not persuaded, because the narrative blaming Russia would then seem inconsistent, as impeding a Russian drive to Odessa, not helping it. My guess is they (US) would choose a target within Russia. This would cross a Russian redline for certain, and trigger a Russian reaction involving attack on "decision-making" centers far enough beyond Ukraine to "justify" the escalation the US seeks in any case. Shoigu's initiative may have neutralized that scheme: all he needed to suggest was that self-preservation should be the over-riding concern of those in decision-making centers as far afield as London, Foggy Bottom, the Pentagon, as well as Ramstein and Kiev. Russian nuclear doctrine allows and perhaps even demands such extreme response. The chesspiece move of the 101st to Moldova will not deter Russian move against Odessa. That force is neither quantitatively nor qualitatively capable of providing deterrence. It may well however be sacrificed to provide narrative cover to justify US entry of a "coalition of the willing" (note: not NATO per se) into the war. That too will be unavailing. Russia has demonstrated that it is well able to bomb Ukraine at will, knocking out all such infrastructure as would curtail the ability of Ukraine to maneuver on the battlefield, and even for the Ukraine army merely to subsist. Marshall Surovikin was mandated in effect to bring that exact calculated brutality to bear, that the Ukrainian army would be neutralized as a fighting force, and would have no choice but unconditional surrender if only to save themselves from frostbite and starvation. US/NATO is now irrelevant to that outcome, as is Zelensky and his high command. Unfortunately, US escalation will remain on the table, but by means wherein Ukraine as such would be irrelevant. Those neocons will look for other options to continue their siege against Russia. But they are now on the wrong side of history and of prophecy, and their siege will fail. It is Russia's and Putin's destiny to slay the "red dragon" of prophecy. That is why the patron saint of Russia is St. George, he who adorns various Russian battle emblems.
'False Flag' attacks are the favorite Modus operandi of the demonic Chosen few Enemies of mankind! "LAVON Affair"-1954! "USS LIBERTY"-1967! "9/11/2001"!! What is up their 'bloody sleeve' next??
Why did the US-NATO start a bloody War against Yugoslavia, to break that nation apart? Why is the US-NATO supporting, promoting a bloody War, not to do the same to the Ukraine? Ukraine and Yugoslavia both are made up by some 5 or 6 different Nationalities, minorities and territories ripped out, in case of the Ukraine, of, Russia, Poland, Moldova, Hungary, Byelorussia, Rumania! Return those territories to the respective Motherlands and Presto, no more bloodshed, no more War, no more danger of a catastrophic Nuclear Armageddon! JUSTICE would be served! Why isn't that outcome given a serious consideration by the Powers That be?? That IS the Question! War is a RACKET!!
According to Russia, Ukraine were going to fill a missile with radioactive material and fire it over the Chernoble exclusion zone. The AFU would the shoot it down over the Chernoble exclusion zone and claim that this was Russia using a Nuclear missile. A massive false flag attack thus drawing in the US, UK and other Western powers. People really need to know this is what Ukraine is or was planning to do.
No word about ENTIRE EU people`s revolution against this systematic dumbing and slaughter of peoples freedom??? This will then be the first genociding of its people if the winter freeze kills them, if the culling of meat starves them to death. I don’t see ANY of you debating the issue that ONLY the corrupt leaders have agreed to KILL their people headed by american NATO`s insane desire to replace Russia for profits instead of peace.
. The corrupt media are NOT showing the millions of people on the streets protesting, EVERYDAY rioting AGAINST nato, sanctions, WEF, etc. THIS IS GROSS CENSURESHIP that mainstream media is found to be compliant with….
The world does not seem to recognize that this is the beginning of TOTAL dumbing of the people of the WORLD…you guys don’t seem to understand…
What happens to them will happen to every part of the world…I reckon there will be a lot more dead (billions) by the time America`s empire and dollar are dead too ..(since you have a platform here…. it is time that you promoted yourself one step ahead and begin addressing the liberties of the other commodity that is about to be threatened like never before….the entire 99% population of the world …which is ACTUALLY NOW IN THE POT STEWING….there is no disagreement that our lives are so much worse now then ever before and someone is intent on making it worst.
Russia isn’t going to be permitted under any circumstance to take Odesa. Sorry, maybe if the Russian “special military operation” had been even halfway competent they could have taken Odesa at the outset.
Pearl Harbour, MI6 agent named Popov told them not once but twice ,a week before the attack ,in the office of J EDGAR HOOVER, but was thrown out twice, but I note their Carriers where placed out of harms way.
if i had to guess, you applied to the State Department or some other US government organisation and didn´t get the job. ever since then, you´ve been bitter and criticizing US government policy. Your ´data points´ and ´inside´ knowledge make Pope´s ´A little knowledge is a dangerous thing' ring ever so true. Just stick to writing your novel and maybe that piece of fiction will resonate with more then just Russian apologists.
Conspiracy theory dude , when this doesn't happen are you going to say you were wrong about dirty bomb.. Russia doesn't want to destroy Odessa wtf Russia has been shelling Odessa for While. Russia didn't invade Ukraine because they wanted nuclear weapons, they invaded Ukraine to capture all territory in the Donbas.
You must have been watching a whole different war, Russia is nothing winning the war.
McNamara admitted in an interview after the Vietnam War that the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. The video is on youtube. 58000 Americans and 2 million Vietnamese died as a result. Then there was the WMD lies about Iraq. The US can and does lie its way into war.
According to our data, the Ukrainian side has already started implementing the planned plan. In particular, the Eastern Mining and Processing Plant in the city of Yellow Waters and the Institute of Nuclear Research in Kiev have been tasked with making such a bomb. We do not rule out assistance in solving this problem from some Western countries, which, according to incoming information, are negotiating with Ukraine on the supply of components for a "dirty bomb".
According to information available to Russia, the Kiev regime plans to carry out the detonation of such a munition by disguising it as an abnormal operation of a low-power Russian nuclear munition, in which highly enriched uranium is used as a charge.
Maria Zakharova
Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation
Very detailed statement
It makes sense Gonzalo but they will not succeed , the whole world is watching them.
Very good insights and a plausible theory. I would only disagree on the final conclusion. I don't think this leads to nuclear war. Yes the western political class are psychopaths, however they are also bullies/cowards. They won't ever put themselves at personal risk. I would bet they back down before a nuclear exchange. However, as Gonzalo correctly points out, all bets are off.
The Moment NATO/US enter this war Russia will go full nuclear…..Watch putting speech with Macron before the war.
Last from the destruction of the Antonov 226..
It was bombed in the early beginning of the military operation in Ukraine because Russian intelligence found information that the 226 was made ready to drop a dirty bomb and blame Russia.
According to a Jesuit whistleblower its planned that the total West (US, EU and UK) will lose to the Russians in a huge way meaning over half their population gone, economy decimated, money worthless while Russia and Brics create a new monetary system called Central Bank Digital Currency with value deriving from a basket of currencies backed by real assets gold, commodities, oil, gas, etc. Sure looks like everything the West is doing is nothing but hurting itself on purpose,its because its planned that they lose big time. New system is also controlled by the cabal and its not gonna be good. 😂
Depopulation is the agenda. From 7 billion, to 500 million. Everything the powers that be are doing is to speed up depopulation. World war is a tool.
The thing is that its the usual plan from the usual suspects. The Russians wouldve seen this coming. History has shown that the Russians are playing chess while the western militaries can barely handle a basic checkers game. The odds that this very obvious plan will actually succeed seems very low.
Our only hope is that now that we know about it ,they will not go through with it .They have lost this battle .It is left to be known if they choose the samson option ,which will ultimately mean the total destruction of mankind or finally decide to choose the peace option instead.
Both russians and ukrainians will be affected by a dirty bomb and usa will gain control of boh russia and ukraine
Kill 2 birds with one stone as the saying goes
The people in power in the Biden Administration need to be in federal prison and not holding any power. A lot of American youth will unfortunately die for a cause that does not concern us. A lesson we fail to learn. Russia will kick ass if what you describe happens. The 101st Airborne Division will be used as sacrificial lambs by Biden and company as the excuse to get in a war. Insanity and evil prevails in Washington.
Trust sessions
I fear too that our government might be considering support of such a plan only to blame Russia for it and cause Russia to unleash hell on Ukraine. It’ll allow western corp media to propel further anti Russia hysteria. Just like Syria’s “chemical” attack or Iraq’s “weapons of mass destruction” were enough of the reasons to justify US/UK invasions into those countries. These western governments are NOT looking to save Ukraine. They are looking to bring Russia down at the expense of Ukraine potentially getting annihilated. That’s pretty EVIL. As an American citizen I oppose US manipulative foreign policies regarding this conflict.
If the US sends the 101st Airborne to Odessa, and a US fleet enters the Black Sea, why would the Russians only destroy the 101st, and not the fleet? In for a penny, in for a pound.
The West has greatly overestimated their ability to get most of the world would get behind them, they greatly underestimated the ability of Russians to get most of the world behind them by doing everything by the book. The Americans military can’t get young men and women to join the military, Western Europeans won’t fight either. This is the end of the Western elites empire, thankfully. Nows the time for Eurasia to get off the sidelines.
Gonzalo, while a big fan of yours since your involuntary stay with Ukrainian security, I must point out your consistent blindspot regarding the very real, albeit covert, ongoing civil war between the globalist deep state neocon, dem and Rino traitors and those patriotic forces fighting in defense and support of the U.S. Constitution and to preserve our Constitutional Republic.
In addition to your blindspot over the current U.S. civil war, you are also remiss in not recognizing that those same patriotic U.S. forces are working together with the anti-globalist factions and leaderships of a good number of other freedom loving nations of the World.
All I suggest us that you widen your aperture in order to appreciate (and follow) the larger, more complex and detailed big picture of this most awe inspiring and monumental timeline unfolding on our Planet.
It's not suprising the US Gov would use the death of 101st airborne troops as an excuse to justify war. No different than using civilian deaths on 9/11 for the Afghan invasion.
Make's perfect sense. Seeing the US, British and Ukrainian involvement in this war reminds me of the 3 stooges bungling about (dangerously in this case) with their ladder.
Gonzalo here are a few nuances for you to consider.
First of all the cat is already out of the bag. The whole world already knows about this dirty bomb plan.
There will be no way to blame the Russians for it. They will try of course but to no avail.
Zelinsky and his cronies? They will be found and rounded up wherever they are hiding, and Russian intelligence services will take care of them.
In WW1 there was a phase were both parties used chemical warfare agents, this quickly stopped because of one unpredictable factor. The wind being the great equalizer spreading the agents to friend and foe. It was quickly stopped.
The radioactive dust will spread to Odessa making that city and its surroundings unlivable.
It would make that city not worth fighting for.
American involvement? The US has already a rather low standing in the world as it is right now.
Being involved in such a monstrosity would turn it into a pariah nation. Beyond the pale.
What about the US generals, would they be ordering their best troops to fight in an irradiated area? Knowing those men would come home dead or with radiation sickness?
…. 100+% spot-on Gonzalo Lira …. good man ✊
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Couch i'm so glad that you alive, stay safe pls.
By the way americans decide nothing in us, all of this crap made by zog
Excellent analysis. What you suggest seems correct to me in broad outline: US (neocons basically) seek to escalate thru false flag. As to your suggested detail re Nikolaev I'm not persuaded, because the narrative blaming Russia would then seem inconsistent, as impeding a Russian drive to Odessa, not helping it.
My guess is they (US) would choose a target within Russia. This would cross a Russian redline for certain, and trigger a Russian reaction involving attack on "decision-making" centers far enough beyond Ukraine to "justify" the escalation the US seeks in any case.
Shoigu's initiative may have neutralized that scheme: all he needed to suggest was that self-preservation should be the over-riding concern of those in decision-making centers as far afield as London, Foggy Bottom, the Pentagon, as well as Ramstein and Kiev. Russian nuclear doctrine allows and perhaps even demands such extreme response.
The chesspiece move of the 101st to Moldova will not deter Russian move against Odessa. That force is neither quantitatively nor qualitatively capable of providing deterrence. It may well however be sacrificed to provide narrative cover to justify US entry of a "coalition of the willing" (note: not NATO per se) into the war.
That too will be unavailing. Russia has demonstrated that it is well able to bomb Ukraine at will, knocking out all such infrastructure as would curtail the ability of Ukraine to maneuver on the battlefield, and even for the Ukraine army merely to subsist. Marshall Surovikin was mandated in effect to bring that exact calculated brutality to bear, that the Ukrainian army would be neutralized as a fighting force, and would have no choice but unconditional surrender if only to save themselves from frostbite and starvation.
US/NATO is now irrelevant to that outcome, as is Zelensky and his high command. Unfortunately, US escalation will remain on the table, but by means wherein Ukraine as such would be irrelevant. Those neocons will look for other options to continue their siege against Russia.
But they are now on the wrong side of history and of prophecy, and their siege will fail. It is Russia's and Putin's destiny to slay the "red dragon" of prophecy. That is why the patron saint of Russia is St. George, he who adorns various Russian battle emblems.
DRUGS are BAD GONZO
Getting out there, they want nothing to do with open conflict with the bear. The suffering is a goal yes…..dependence, vassal states, not more
'False Flag' attacks are the favorite Modus operandi of the demonic Chosen few Enemies of mankind! "LAVON Affair"-1954! "USS LIBERTY"-1967! "9/11/2001"!! What is up their 'bloody sleeve' next??
Why did the US-NATO start a bloody War against Yugoslavia, to break that nation apart? Why is the US-NATO supporting, promoting a bloody War, not to do the same to the Ukraine? Ukraine and Yugoslavia both are made up by some 5 or 6 different Nationalities, minorities and territories ripped out, in case of the Ukraine, of, Russia, Poland, Moldova, Hungary, Byelorussia, Rumania! Return those territories to the respective Motherlands and Presto, no more bloodshed, no more War, no more danger of a catastrophic Nuclear Armageddon! JUSTICE would be served! Why isn't that outcome given a serious consideration by the Powers That be?? That IS the Question! War is a RACKET!!
According to Russia, Ukraine were going to fill a missile with radioactive material and fire it over the Chernoble exclusion zone. The AFU would the shoot it down over the Chernoble exclusion zone and claim that this was Russia using a Nuclear missile. A massive false flag attack thus drawing in the US, UK and other Western powers. People really need to know this is what Ukraine is or was planning to do.
Russia Will never accept Americans to occupy the city of odessa. No matter what US think.
Russia will never allow Syrianisation of Odessa.
“Fears Grow Of Russia Using A Dirty Bomb”……this was a headline on my Alexa device today.
No word about ENTIRE EU people`s revolution against this systematic dumbing and slaughter of peoples freedom??? This will then be the first genociding of its people if the winter freeze kills them, if the culling of meat starves them to death. I don’t see ANY of you debating the issue that ONLY the corrupt leaders have agreed to KILL their people headed by american NATO`s insane desire to replace Russia for profits instead of peace.
. The corrupt media are NOT showing the millions of people on the streets protesting, EVERYDAY rioting AGAINST nato, sanctions, WEF, etc. THIS IS GROSS CENSURESHIP that mainstream media is found to be compliant with….
The world does not seem to recognize that this is the beginning of TOTAL dumbing of the people of the WORLD…you guys don’t seem to understand…
What happens to them will happen to every part of the world…I reckon there will be a lot more dead (billions) by the time America`s empire and dollar are dead too
..(since you have a platform here…. it is time that you promoted yourself one step ahead and begin addressing the liberties of the other commodity that is about to be threatened like never before….the entire 99% population of the world …which is ACTUALLY NOW IN THE POT STEWING….there is no disagreement that our lives are so much worse now then ever before and someone is intent on making it worst.
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Russia isn’t going to be permitted under any circumstance to take Odesa. Sorry, maybe if the Russian “special military operation” had been even halfway competent they could have taken Odesa at the outset.
It’s not going to stop Mr Lira. I am truly sorry. God Bless.😞
Of course it is the Americans, but don't overlook the UK and MI6.
Dumb F.
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Pearl Harbour, MI6 agent named Popov told them not once but twice ,a week before the attack ,in the office of J EDGAR HOOVER, but was thrown out twice, but I note their Carriers where placed out of harms way.
Outstanding synopsis, airtight rationale.
m i the only one scared about the outcome of this war?
Only the true patriots in the US military can stop this by removing this administration.
if i had to guess, you applied to the State Department or some other US government organisation and didn´t get the job. ever since then, you´ve been bitter and criticizing US government policy. Your ´data points´ and ´inside´ knowledge make Pope´s ´A little knowledge is a dangerous thing' ring ever so true. Just stick to writing your novel and maybe that piece of fiction will resonate with more then just Russian apologists.
Conspiracy theory dude , when this doesn't happen are you going to say you were wrong about dirty bomb.. Russia doesn't want to destroy Odessa wtf Russia has been shelling Odessa for While. Russia didn't invade Ukraine because they wanted nuclear weapons, they invaded Ukraine to capture all territory in the Donbas.
You must have been watching a whole different war, Russia is nothing winning the war.
McNamara admitted in an interview after the Vietnam War that the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. The video is on youtube. 58000 Americans and 2 million Vietnamese died as a result. Then there was the WMD lies about Iraq. The US can and does lie its way into war.
Covid to screw with the presidential election.
WW3 to screw with the midterms.
So true. US has done this many times.
Lots of chatter about mossad l right now. Have you heard anything?